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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: elliekats on Sunday 10 October 10 00:24 BST (UK)

Title: HUSBAND family tree
Post by: elliekats on Sunday 10 October 10 00:24 BST (UK)
Hello,
I am searching for any information on the surname of Husband:
My many times GGGF was John Husband (not sure of dates) and we believe he married Jannet Black.  They had a son John Husband b.1708) in Fife Scotland(?).  He married Ann Hay(B. June 1714). Had a son - (and possibly other children) William who married Elizabeth Bisset. William and Elizabeth had a son - Robert Husband (B. 1783 Fife Scotland, D.1855) and I think also had Catherine (B. 1778 and John B.1780 - but not 100% sure). Robert had a son - Blair Henderson Husband (B.1833 Scotland). Blair had a son - Robert Alexander Husband (B. 1869 in either Fife or Ireland) and D. 1944 in Homebush Sydney Australia). Robert Alexander had three sons (Kenneth Ernest lane husband who is my grandfather (B. 1907 in Petersham Sydney Australia and d. 1988), Jeppy and Arthur) and four daughters- Mimmy, Ira, Gertrude and Illma. Kenneth Ernest Lane Husband had my Dad Kenneth William who then had me and my brother Brett.

It appears that Blair came to Australia to establish a canning works for a company he worked for.   His wife followed him and they settled in McLean NSW Australia. 

I would like to find out if the family tree extends further back.  And am curious as to why - when the surname is so obviously of English origins - the family came from Fife Scotland - as Husband is not of Scottish clan orgins.   I must confess my ignorance here n regards to the history - daresay there is a reason? 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Emma
Title: Re: HUSBAND family tree
Post by: Johnoz on Sunday 10 October 10 04:36 BST (UK)
Dear Elliekats

I can help you with some of this. John H and Ann Hay were my 5th great grandparents and I know whose John's parents were.

I have Blair b1835 in my tree, but no descendants for him. He and his siblings were all born at Ferry Port on Craig, Fife.

John's father David started life at Leuchars, Fife. As far as I know, Husband is a fairly common Scottish name.

I will send you a descendants report starting with David as a personal email.

John Gourlay
Melbourne, Australia
Title: Re: HUSBAND family tree
Post by: elliekats on Sunday 10 October 10 04:43 BST (UK)
Hello John,   thanks so much for your reply.   I have the rest of the family tree - but its at work and I was only relying on memory.  One of my Dad's Cousins is currently doing indepth study of the family (Ron) and has been visiting Mclean in NSW  and found Blair's Headstone.   

Its curious that you mention that the surname Husband is a common Scottish name....but I can't find any mention of it when I look for scottish clan names.   Do we have a tartan?

Emma
Title: Re: HUSBAND family tree
Post by: Johnoz on Sunday 10 October 10 04:50 BST (UK)
No tartan that I'm aware of. Neither have the Gourlays or many other now common Scottish names. Gourlay for instance is most likely a Norman name, that goes back to 12th century Scotland.

I'm sure there are many on this site that can explain the clans far better than me. I gave up, but I think it basically goes back in antiquity and the original natives.

regards
John g
Title: Re: HUSBAND family tree
Post by: ostler on Wednesday 27 October 10 20:14 BST (UK)
Do you have a Robert Blyth Husband born 21 Jan 1839in Windygates, Fife, to James Husband and Isabella Blyth? He married Isabella Kinnes and had at least nine children.
Title: Re: HUSBAND family tree
Post by: sancti on Wednesday 27 October 10 20:36 BST (UK)
Emma there are 10 times more records in England than Scotland for the surname Husband on the 1841 census so I would say the origins are English. Maybe they were soldiers stationed in Scotland after the 1745 rebellion.

Clans are a highlands phenomenon and the tartans that we associate with family names today have their origins in the early 1800s when tartan started to be produced commercially.
Title: Re: HUSBAND family tree
Post by: Johnoz on Thursday 28 October 10 06:41 BST (UK)
Dear Ostler

I'm travelling at the moment and consequently on a remote computer. I can pick up my GenesReunited tree but couldn't find them. It sounded very familiar to me.

I did however find one Husband Blyth connection in my family and that is a William Blyth b Logie 1822 married to Ann Husband also b Logie 1817. They had 6 children that I know of.

regards
John Gourlay
Title: Re: HUSBAND family tree
Post by: elliekats on Monday 22 November 10 19:47 GMT (UK)
Hi Sancti,

thank you for your reply.   John has kindly given me a copy of the Husband FT and it goes back so far to David Husband born c1645 in Leuchars, Fife, Scotland.  David married Agnes HENDERSON and they were married c1667 in Leuchars, Fife, Scotland.  Agnes HENDERSON was born c1649 in Leuchars, Fife, Scotland.   So it appears the Husband name was there at least 1649 - before the rebellion. 

Thanks for your help.

Kind regards
Emma
Title: Re: HUSBAND family tree
Post by: mmaciocia on Saturday 27 July 13 11:16 BST (UK)
Do you have a Robert Blyth Husband born 21 Jan 1839in Windygates, Fife, to James Husband and Isabella Blyth? He married Isabella Kinnes and had at least nine children.

I have done some research around this arm of the family, James / Isabella being my x3 grand parents. Happy to share what I know, equally happy to hear of others findings.
Michael
Title: Re: HUSBAND family tree
Post by: Lodger on Sunday 28 July 13 22:50 BST (UK)
According to Black's "The Surnames of Scotland", "Husband" probably corresponded to the English "yeoman" and gives examples of the name Husband being found in Scotland as far back as 1291 at Invernairn, which is quite far north.
Title: Re: HUSBAND family tree
Post by: ostler on Thursday 01 January 15 16:08 GMT (UK)
I have done some research around this arm of the family, James / Isabella being my x3 grand parents. Happy to share what I know, equally happy to hear of others findings.
Michael
Hi Michael, sorry for the late reply. I would be very interested in finding out what you know about this family.
Title: Re: HUSBAND family tree
Post by: Michael Husband on Monday 14 March 16 00:48 GMT (UK)
Just found this discussion off a Google search and wanted to chime in. There is another branch of the Husband family in the USA mostly in Texas for the past 150 years or so. I currently live in Northern Virginia but am on va action this week to Scotland so if you have any ideas on where and whom to visit I'll try to put them on our list.

Warm regards,

Mike
Title: Re: HUSBAND family tree
Post by: Neilhrd on Thursday 08 September 16 08:54 BST (UK)
If Johnoz (John Gourlay) is still active in this forum then this message is for you.  You say you are connected to William Blyth and his wife Ann (nee Husband) from Logie.  So am I.  Ann Husband, born 18 June 1817 in Logie, was the sister of my 2 x great grandfather George Husband, born 27 July 1823 after the family had moved to Belmiello, Leuchars.  I have some information about Ann's parents, grandparents and siblings but also a lot of gaps.  I would be happy to share if you would care to reply to this site.
Thank you

Neil Hardie
Title: Re: HUSBAND family tree
Post by: jaybelnz on Thursday 08 September 16 09:03 BST (UK)
"Husband Name Meaning English: occupational name for a peasant farmer, from Middle English husband ‘tiller of the soil’, ‘husbandman’. The term (late Old English husbonda, Old Norse húsbóndi), a compound of hús ‘house’ + bóndi (see Bond) originally described a man who was head of his own household, and this may have been the sense in some of the earliest examples of the surname."

I'm assuming too that the term "animal husbandry" likely came from the name Husband -meaning farmer.
Title: Re: HUSBAND family tree
Post by: Jamjar on Thursday 08 September 16 09:56 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat, Neil.

As per RC policy you are unable to put your email address on the site. You can remove it my clicking on the 'Modify' button.

If you make 3 posts you can use the personal message system to contact others on the site.

Jamjar
Title: Re: HUSBAND family tree
Post by: AminaZ on Wednesday 11 January 17 16:45 GMT (UK)
Hello I am searching for any information on my Great Grandfather James Husband (born between 1820-1840)
He married my Great Grandmother Elizabeth Gibney around 1890 in Co. Meath Ireland.
My family has been told that James was Scottish and census records have shown that he was a soldier. My family have also been told that James was previously married in Scotland before emigrating (and an alleged bigamist)
No one in my family can find any records of James before he moved to Ireland
I would love to find out more about him
Many thanks
Title: Re: HUSBAND family tree
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 11 January 17 18:44 GMT (UK)
Hello I am searching for any information on my Great Grandfather James Husband (born between 1820-1840)
He married my Great Grandmother Elizabeth Gibney around 1890 in Co. Meath Ireland.

Hmm, Amina, (Welcome to Rootschat)  ;)

The dates you give are a bit questionable.

Born 1820 - 1840 married 1890 between the ages of 50 & 70 yrs old then had a family?

Can you supply all the info. from the marriage please?

Age, occupation, father's name, father's occupation?

Does it state whether single/widowed/divorced?

How old was Elizabeth when she married James?

How many children did they have & can you give them by name in order please as this can help with the scottish naming pattern?

Annie

Added, This query may be best on a new thread as there is no indication of a connection with original poster at present?

Title: Re: HUSBAND family tree
Post by: Forfarian on Wednesday 11 January 17 22:21 GMT (UK)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie lists the marriage of James Husban (without the 'd') to Elizabeth Gibney on 10 January 1884 in Oldcastle, Co Meath. He was a soldier, aged 40, son of James Husban, painter. She was 33, daughter of Richard Gibney, labourer.

They had sons John, born 26 September 1885; Richard, born 1 September 1890; Peter, born 27 June 1894.

The family is in the 1901 census of Ireland at http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie
James Husband, 60, army pensioner and agricultural labourer; wife Elizabeth Husband, 50; son John Husband, 14; son Richard Husband, 11; son Peter Husband, 7, all born in County Meath.

In 1911 they are still there, in Baltrasna, Killeagh, Co Meath; James, 84; Elizabeth, 65; John, 18; Richard, 16; John, 14, all born Co Meath. Obviously the ages in the census are wrong but the rest looks OK.

James died on 17 January and and Elizabeth on 22 December the same year, 1919.
 
You can and should look at all these images online to confirm the information and extract any additional details from the certificates and census.

You will need to get hold of his Army records to find out where he enlisted and where he served in order to get some idea of whether he could have married in Scotland. Someone else on RootsChat may be able to find them for you - I don't have the necessary subscriptions.

There are half a dozen marriages of James Husbands on Scotland's People (SP) at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk. You can check the names of the parents of all these James Husbands at SP, and you can look for death certificates which, unlike the Irish ones, will tell you the names of their parents, so you may be able to eliminate some of them. The marriage certificates should also tell you their occupations.