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Some Special Interests => One Name Studies => One Name Studies: T to Z => Topic started by: Tisy on Sunday 10 October 10 08:40 BST (UK)
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Hi all,
I am researching the Wood family from Staffordshire who in the latter part of the 1800's owned the Wood Bros. Glassworks in Barnsley, Yorkshire. William Wood worked for the Baccarat Glass Co. in France prior to joining his brothers in the Barnsley Glassworks. He had two sons, Alphonse and Eugene, both born in France, who also worked at the Barnsley Works. Is anyone researching this family?
Cheers,
Tisy
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hi there
Not sure how much help I could be, my sister is the real genealogist in the family. We are decendents of Eugene Wood. What are you wanting to know and how are you related?
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Hi Woofie,
It is a bit complicated; first of all, let me say that I don't know whether we are related. The reason I started the Wood research is because my great-grandfather, William Henry Marshall b. 1857 Barnsley, Yorkshire, was the natural son of Mary Marshall; he took his mother's name and the family have never been able to find out who his father was. To this end, we did y-DNA testing, and have come up with many matches to people by the name of Wood, most of whom are Americans whose ancestors migrated between about 1650 and 1780, possibly because of religious persecution in the earlier years. Most of these ancestors were from Derbyshire and Cheshire and possibly Yorkshire.
It has however now gone beyond my own need to find out where we belong, in that it turns out that most of us have tested to a fairly rare subgroup of the haplogroup R1b1b2, i.e. L20. It also transpires that we are all closely related, within a timeframe of about 12 to 7 generations. This subgroup is only about 1800 years old (which is very young in DNA terms), and relatively few people have tested to this group so far. The name Wood in the northern counties is overly represented, although there are many other names in the group from other parts of the British Isles. A researcher by the name of Steve Gilbert is conducting a research project into the migration patterns of this group of people and I am assisting with the genealogical stuff. If you would like to look at the project, let me know and I will email the link. Getting back to William Henry, the family legend has it that his father was a wealthy man; in the 1871 census he was described as a "glass presser" (aged 13); he was told to "stand by the gates a 9 o'clock and he would see his father pass by". We have wondered whether his father could have been the factory owner. Any help you could give would be much appreciated.
Cheers,
Tisy
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Hi Tisy
well i wish i could be of more help but in fairness I couldnt confirm whether the factory owner being the father of your ancestor is a possibility or not. Not sure how that could be checked. As you are already aware the Woods brothers ran the factory together so it would also be hard to determine which brother. I wish you the best of luck finding out, it is good to solve these mysteries. if there is any information that may help likes dates etc let me know and i will try and find out for you.
As for the Dna project again I am probably unable to help as I am living in New zealand so dont know how any of that would work. However there is family living in the Uk who may be able to help.
thanks Ruth
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Hi Ruth,
I am in Australia - how is the weather across the ditch? It's been pretty awful here in Victoria.
With regard to finding out who W.H.'s father was, this would be impossible to prove, but it could be said that if there was a close DNA match with a known male descendant, or even better, two known male descendants of either Eugene or William, then we could say that there was a possibility that either one of them could have been the father. It would also be interesting for your family if they tested L20, because of the research into this group. Do you have a brother or male cousin who would fit the bill? Unfortunately it is not possible to test females as the testing is done on the Y-chromosome which is passed down from father to son. My brother was able to give a sample for our testing. The question is, are you descended from the male line, i.e. are you a Wood?
I will contact you privately with my email address; it is possible that members of the research project would be willing to sponsor DNA testing, which is merely a matter of taking three cheek swabs and mailing them back to the testing company in America. I will give you more details privately, and give you the link to the research projects and other research papers which may be of interest.
Many thanks for your response.
Regards,
Tisy
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Hi all,
I am researching the Wood family from Staffordshire who in the latter part of the 1800's owned the Wood Bros. Glassworks in Barnsley, Yorkshire. William Wood worked for the Baccarat Glass Co. in France prior to joining his brothers in the Barnsley Glassworks. He had two sons, Alphonse and Eugene, both born in France, who also worked at the Barnsley Works. Is anyone researching this family?
Cheers,
Tisy
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Hi,I am descended from Alphonse John Baptiste Wood, glass manufacturer born in Baccarat 1842. He was the 3rd son of William Baker Wood, older brothers were William Louis and Eugene, two sisters Hyacinthe Catherine and Clemence eugenie. He was my great grandfather and I have a family tree going back to George wood in 1770.
If you are wanting DNA I have two male cousins -one of which is descended through the male line. I could possibly find another 2nd cousin also descended through the male line. Do reply if you want further info
Best wishes
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Hi,
Many thanks for your kind offer - it would be wonderful if we could get the DNA done; we would probably go for the Geno-2 Test from the Genographic Project which is the most cost effective, but will get some advice from a friendly geneticist as to the best one to go for. All it entails is the cheek swab - this is sent back to the lab for analysis and the results are available in a few weeks.
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Hi again Keresforth,
Would it be possible to let me have the family tree stuff? We have a close DNA match to an American by the name of Steve Wood whose ancestor migrated to New England sometime in the late 1600's; he was John Wood and he was probably born near Matlock in Derbyshire around 1650. He had a brother named Timothy.
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Well as to Eugene Wood, only his daughters survived childhood unfortunately, so would not be possible to test the DNA links.
Keresforth would seem we are related, I am Eugene Woods Great Great Grand daughter. Did your family stay near Barnsley or move away?
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Hi Woofie, I guess it would depend on whether Keresforth's cousins are descended from another branch of the same family - the male line does not have to come from either Eugene or Alphonse - it could be from say a brother of William Baker Wood. As long as it's from the same family, the DNA will have been passed from father's to sons down all of the branches. Hopefully this is the case.
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Sorry struggling a bit with this web site. My cousin Michael is the son of Hugo Wood , son of William Francis John wood, grandson of Alphonse John Baptiste . He actually lives in Australia but is hoping to come over this summer I could ask him if he would be willing for a DNA test or not if you want. The only other son completely through the male line I am not in Touch with but could possibly trace. Presumably it has to be completely through the male line? There are lots of males but all the rest that I know of have come through one female I. The line - including my son.
The family tree I have is very large, far too big to copy in any way I'm afraid.
All my family have now left Barnsley since my father Haslam died in 1984 - he was the last wood to run Wood Brothers.
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Hi Keresforth,
It sounds like your cousin Michael is descended through the male line, so this would be fine. The test would be on the Y chromosome, which is passed down from father to son ad infinitum (barring a few mutations along the way). We would be most grateful if he would agree to test. I will send you a private message with my email - would you be able to send me the genealogy that way?
Kind regards,
Carol
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Hi
I am the great grand daughter of Alphonse Jean Baptiste Wood the younger brother of Eugene. Looking at my family tree I guess you are the daughter of either Sharon Elizabeth or Deborah Michelle who were both born in New Zealand according to this family tree. In Which case we are related! Had a lot of trouble finding out how to reply to you. Only discovered the website when I googled Wood Brothers as has Barnsley friends staying with me for the weekend and have been finding the factory history in my loft when clearing out.
If you want any family history do let me know, but much of it is pretty hazy apart from this family tree I have dating back to 1770.
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Hi Keresforth, do you have your stuff on a family history database such as the one from the Mormon Church? If so, you could send a "gedcom" which is a compressed file and will easily send by email.
Regards,
Carol
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Actually Sharon and Deborah are my sisters, there are also four younger brothers. So yes we are definitely related. I do remember Dad mentioning the name Haslam Wood, but cant remember much moor than that. My sister Sharon and I Live in New Zealand and Deborah died in infancy. two of my brothers live in the Uk and two in NZ. My dad is David Bottoms, but his older brother Reg is still alive and two of his children live in the Uk whilst one son is currently living in Australia. My sister has been researching the family back in France and has gone back to the early 1700's on some lines. Anyway very nice to make your acquaintance.
Ruth (woofiewaffles)
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I just reread what I had written, my father is also still alive, but he lives in Castleford now.
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Just a question, do you have any information about cousin Rene (William Louis Rene Wood) Hes the son of the oldest of the three brothers and he lived with Eugene Wood at some point. I know he was a doctor in Ossett. Not sure why he lived with them but I know dad tells me, granny (Florence Juliette Wood) said he used to put phosphorus in their camber pots. Did he have any decedent's? Just wondering if you know?
Ruth
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Just a question, do you have any information about cousin Rene (William Louis Rene Wood) Hes the son of the oldest of the three brothers and he lived with Eugene Wood at some point. I know he was a doctor in Ossett. Not sure why he lived with them but I know dad tells me, granny (Florence Juliette Wood) said he used to put phosphorus in their camber pots. Did he have any decedent's? Just wondering if you know?
Ruth
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Dear All :)
I do not know of any of the people you have mentioned in this thread so I do not believe we are related.
I am researching the name WOOD in my own family, and trying to locate the death record of a George Wood - but it is proving very difficult!
I would really be very grateful if you could help me? by letting know the details of any George WOOD in your records who died (in the UK) in 4th quarter of 1843, or in 1844? Then I will be able to discount them from my list! I am still in the process of contacting registry offices so I will update if I hear anything from them.
Thanks for reading.
Angelfish
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This has been a fascinating read. I am researching WOOD for my mother-in-law but her family were based in Sheffield - Fred WOOD was a theatre pianist in the 1940s/50s.
I guess there is little connection with the Barnsley glass-making Woods. However, I actually live in Barnsley and am happy to do some local research as a favour if any is required.
Regards
Pete