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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Somerset => Topic started by: gjsaunds on Friday 04 February 11 01:38 GMT (UK)
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Hi I'm looking for Joseph Pavitt b. 1772 in the somerset area. He married Grace Matthews b. about same year. Can't seem to find out who his parents or Grace's were. The name Pavitt/ Pavord has changed over the years. Would appreciate any help thanks ;D
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Hi gi,
Welcome to Rootschat.
1851 Census under Joseph PAVIIT he is born c 1770, Stoford, Somerset.
Son William born c 1804, Stoford.
Did he Marry again after Grace?
1841 he is age 70 with a Mary age 65, William 35, + Williams Son Henry (1834) under PAVERD
Hopefully someone has access to Stoford/Barwick Parish Records for you.
You probably have all this but it may help others trying to help you;
Children of JOSEPH/GRACE under PAVORD
All Christened Nether Compton, Dorset;
SAMUEL, 22 July 1792
THOMAS, 02 Marc 1794
MARY, 05 April 1795
WILLIAM, 25 December 1799
JOHN, 25 December 1799
MARY, 13 July 1800
Possibly Mary 1795 and William 1799 Died as there is a William 1806 born Somerset on Census. So they must have gone back there post 1800.
Trish :)
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Bit of a list here - from the familysearch.org site
Joseph Pavord b1772 Stoford, Barwick, Somerset. Died 21 Sep 1859
Married Grace Matthews 3 Jul 1792 Nether Compton, Dorset.
Grace b 1772 Nether Compton. Burial 29 Mar 1821 Stoford, Barwick, Somerset.
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Thomas Pavord christened 2 March 1794 Nether Compton. Died 19 Dec 1858. Married Jane Woods 6 Mar 1815
Mary Pavord christened 5 Apr 1795 Nether Compton.
John Pavord christened 25 Dec 1799 Nether Compton.
William Pavord christened 25 Dec 1799 Nether Compton.
Mary Pavord christened 13 Jul 1800 Nether Compton.
Lucy Pavord christened 29 Nov 1801 Barwick.
George Pavord christened 13 Mar 1803. Barwick.
Ann Pavord christened 27 Jul 1804. Barwick.
Lucy Pavord christened 18 Aug 1805 Barwick. Died 13 Apr 1806
Elizabeth Pavord christened 18 Aug 1805. Barwick
Sarah Pavord christened 5 Apr 1807. Barwick
Jane Pavord christened 28 Sep 1808. Barwick
Charlotte Pavord christened 12 Nov 1809. Barwick
Lucy Pavord christened 20 Oct 1811. Barwick
Joel Pavord christened 15 Nov 1812. Barwick. Died 19 Dec 1830
Harriet Pavord christened 20 Feb 1814. Barwick. Died 16 Mar 1828
George Pavord christened 14 May 1815. Barwick. Died 3 Sep 1837
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Thank you so much for your help, it is appreciated so much ;D. There is a lot more children than I expected. All I have to do now is find Joseph and Grace's parents.
Once again thank you so much. ;D
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If you look on the Dorset OPC site there are details of baptisms etc for a number of years. Had a quick look down the list but cannot see a Grace but there are a number of Matthews families.
You will also see the Pavord children that were baptised there.
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Hi, I was born in Barwick, there is a village hall called Pavitts hall probably named after the family.
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Hi, you might also find this interesting, probably owned by the same family, it is about a half mile from Barwick, a very interesting building. Obviously a family of means,
ST51SE EAST COKER CP PAVYOTT'S LANE
LOWER KEY
5/136 Pavyotts Mill House
19.4.61
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Manor-Mill House, Circa 1600, but of earlier foundation. Ham stone rubble with ashlar dressings, rendered on South
side; plain clay tiles with stone base courses between coped gables; reconstructed stone chimney stacks. "T"-plan of
3-stories, 1 bay each frame; single storey lean-to on West side representing all that remains cf former watermill.
Ovolo moulded mullioned and transomed windows with small diamond leaded panes, of 4-liqhts to principal rooms or ground
and first floors of the North wing, 3-light elsewhere; East wing windows mullioned only and smaller, with chamfered
arch doorway on North wing; discrepancy between floor levels of North wing and remainder suggests that this may be
C1600, the remainder an earlier core; plinth and string courses orderly on North wing, erratic on East wing and no
longer present on South wing, where the windows are simpler and could be of C19. Internal structure of arched chamfered
beams mostly intact; some early doorways in both stone and wood; plain chimney pieces; main stairs reconstructed and
remainder of interior considerably modified. Pavyotts Farm and Farm House (within same ownership at June 1981) not of
interest.
Listing NGR: ST5516813249
Source: English Heritage
Listed building text is © Crown Copyright. Reproduced under licence: PSI Click-use licence number C2008002006.
Pavyotts Mill House - East Coker - Somerset - England
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Pavyotts Mill
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Hi
Thank you for your information I find it very interesting that there is a building named after the family of Pavitts. As the Pavitts are from large families that I have come across it would be interesting to know how many of the Pavitt families actually lived there or how far back they go.
So far I have gone back to 1772 and the names have changed over the years now we are known as Pevitt in Australia. Once again thank you for your information and great description of the building.
Regards
Jean ;D
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joseph born 1772, had 2 brothers samuel 1771 and thomas 1770 all born nether compton, there father and mother were john and elizabeth born about 1750, in a small village of west stafford dorset, just outside dorchester A35
my direct ancestor is the thomas line
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;D Thank you so much as I have come to a stand still with Joseph and Grace. So I think this means we are long long lost cousins. Do you happen to know what Elizabeth's maiden name was? This is going to get me going again. :D
Thanks again and please keep in touch even just to say hi. :)
Regards
Jean
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Hi jean,
what part of the world do you come from.
regards john
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Hi John
I am from Australia ;D
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Hi again,
I think that we have been in contact before, when I belonged to genes related.
do you live in victoria or near it.
regards
john
p.s my g/grandmother eliza pavord lived at townsville from 1882 until her death 1897 age 37yrs
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Hi John
Yes I do live in Victoria sorry must have old age symptoms lol. Do any of your rellies live in or near Heywood Victoria. I am going there to see some of my rellies at the end of the month with my sister, and see if we can get any more info from them.
Regards
Jean
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Hi again,
I think thomas pavord his wife and daughter went to broadford victoria as far as I know did not have a son, family name is now slater.
with regards
john
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JMPAV, Hi, you said Eliza was your ggmother. she was also mine I am Bull family decendent
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John, I am in Townsville Australia. I seen a post on Ancestry about Eliza leaving Arthur in England, I agree, I also believe there is a good possibility that James Bull could be Arthur's father. My g'father was Edward, Eliza & James third son (counting Arthur). Another cousin was in England last year and visited Crewekerne and took photos of relevant streets, that we found on the census. If you have access to Ancestry.com our family tree is 'Armstrong NQ' (NQ - is North Queensland). So glad to have connected with you. :)
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John, should have added, I'm just a new member, so can not personal message you as yet. :)
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I'm new to RootsChat, and just came across this thread while trying to sort out Pavitt/Pavord ancestors -- I know it's been several years since the last post here, but I'm hoping some of you who contributed are still monitoring replies.
John -- jmpav -- please see below. Jean -- gjsaunds -- if you are still tracking Joseph Pavord & Grace Matthews, there is a tree on FamilySearch that may be of interest. I cannot personally vouch for its accuracy, but Grace (if you click on her name and study the "Person Details") appears to have been born a Matthews, with her mother (re-)marrying a Robert Lynes. Not sure if I can post an exact URL here, so I'll just give this representation: familysearch (dot) org/tree/pedigree/landscape/KWV3-MHP .
My Y-DNA results connect me with members of the Pafford family in Canada (earliest recorded spelling there: Pavoord), who have been searching for years for their English roots. We think we've found those roots -- in the line of Thomas Pavord (Sr.) of Barwick, who married Jane Woods. [Jane is also an apparent relative of mine, through her brother James, but this does not explain the closeness of the Y-DNA results which track only the male-to-male lineage.]
Meanwhile, my 2nd GG William Henry Childs, aka William Childs Pavitt, acquired a stepfather -- widower John Pavitt -- at age 13, in 1825, when his mother -- Ann Chiles/Childs -- finally married. (John & Ann's family appears in the 1851 census under the spelling "Pavord"). The Canadian Paffords and I have been trying to figure out the exact connection -- i.e., who was the birth father of William Henry, and how was he related (if indeed he was) to the family of Thomas Pavord (Sr.)?
John, if you are by chance still monitoring this thread and you are a direct male-to-male descendant of Thomas Pavord (as "jmpav" seems to hint): have you ever had a Y-DNA test? It could be immeasurably helpful both to me & my family, and to our Canadian cousins, if you -- a descendant of Thomas -- have had the test done, or are willing to do so. In the latter case, I would be very willing to help defray the cost, as it could help two families.
I would also love to be in touch with any other Pavord/Pavitt descendants who see this -- in all probability, we are cousins. My family tree is public at wikitree (dot) com/genealogy/Childs-Family-Tree-1516 , where you will see the surname line come to an abrupt end at Wm. Henry.
All input & suggestions welcome.
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christopherch; I am a descendant of Eliza, and an Australian cousin. I am forwarding your message to John, (jmpav) he has a lot more knowledge of the family, so hopefully he can assist you. Rhonda :)
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Thank you!!! The Paffords and I are even more puzzled than previously, as the connection we thought we might have found for them with the Somerset Pavords now looks questionable. So at this point, all DNA evidence -- but still especially Y-DNA -- is potentially helpful in solving the dual mysteries of the Paffords' English roots, and the actual paternity of my 2nd great grandfather, which is apparently what links me to the Pafford family.
We think that my Pavitt (step-)forebears and the Paffords were perhaps connected in a line reaching as far back as John Pavyot, who owned what became known as Pavyott's Mill, in East Coker, Somerset, around 1280! You might enjoy viewing the place online -- it's preserved (in its form as of about 1600) as a residence and is quite beautiful; it's for sale, so there are real estate agents' "virtual tours" on the 'net. One of them can be found at rightmove (dot) co (dot) uk/property-for-sale/property-48865611 (dot) html. The Mill House is currently owned by English actors Trevor and Tilly (Tremayne) Peacock -- if the BBC series "The Vicar of Dibley" has aired in Oz, you may recognize Trevor's name. Sadly, he now suffers from Alzheimer's, which I'm sure is much of the reason they're selling the place.
Wish we'd connected before my wife and I made our one trip to Australia & NZ four years ago! (I also now find that I have Moors family relatives in Oz -- another connection that goes back to the Somerset/Dorset border villages). If you or John or others wish to contact me directly, I can be reached at christopher_childs (at) earthlink (dot) net.
All the best, Christopher
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Hello researching Pavitt/pavord family tree. my gggggrandfather was Joseph pavord of barwick somerset who married Grace Mathews as his first wife 3 July 1792. remarried on 29 may 1822 to Mary Langdon widower in the church of England register no 30 on page 10 of Barwick register also Joseph was in the military entered on 17 November 1798 no 195 division of Sherborne resided in Nether Compton reference no L/A3/9/9 WE HAVE him having died in 1859 Yeovil somerset Dorset England and buried on 21 Sept 18599 at Barwick Somerset church of England no 450 page 57 and grace died and buried in 1821 burial 29 march 1821 at cucklington somerset church of England no 58 page 8 . Mary Langdon born 1777 and died 1842 not sure if these are correct. census tells me that Joseph and Mary were living with a son at some stage cannot put my hand on the paperwork at the moment I am from Josephs son's William Pavitt who married Elizabeth Hillyer Helliar their son George Pavitt who married Ellen Agnes (Murphy Kelly ) ? to why the two surnames from His daughter Emma Margaret Pavitt who married Alfred Davis/Campbell son of Charlotte Little I live on the border of New south wales and Victoria in Australia looking for anyone who can verify the pavord line with dates etc thanks for reading regards to everyone lovely to meet you all love to hear from you . regards, Bev Campbell
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Hello, Bev! welcome and thanks for joining in --
Just to update my previous: another WikiTree genealogist and I are now exploring the idea that the family of Joseph is -- although the various Pavord and Pavitt spellings seem to become almost interchangeable in the old records -- actually quite distinct, at least for many decades (centuries?) back, from that of the Bradford Abbas Pavitts (my step-forebears). This stems from our being unable to find a common ancestor anywhere in the (available) records, despite considerable effort.
One implication of this is that it now seems likely the Paffords of Newfoundland are descendants of Joseph's son Thomas (and thus cousins of yours), that my Y-DNA connection to the Paffords also runs via Joseph's line, and that the biological father of my 2nd GG William Henry Childs/Pavitt may have been a descendant of Joseph. In that case the presence of stepfather John Pavitt (which does not happen until William is about 13) with a surname so close to -- and sometimes spelled identically to -- the Pavords' -- begins to look coincidental.
In any case Fred Pafford and I are hoping that more members of both families will have their DNA tested and will post the results on GEDMatch and Ysearch. The Y-DNA of direct male descendants of Joseph and son Thomas becomes of greatest interest to our families, but basic autosomal DNA tests like Family Tree DNA's "Family Finder" (whether for male or female descendants) could at least begin to either provide supporting evidence, or begin to refute, the above notion.
I am shortly about to do more research on the Pavord line, which I'll log on WikiTree, and can more confidently talk about Joseph & Grace & family once I've done that work. Meanwhile I hope RhondaA sees your post and can respond, as I know she's in touch with a cousin in England who has done a great deal of work on the line.
Cheers, Christopher
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Bev, Hi, I am Rhonda, Pavord descendant from Thomas 1772, David 1794, Job 1830, Eliza 1860. Eliza married James Bull, which is my mothers line. Whether the two lines are connected I have no idea, but do know that nothing can be ruled out with family research. Another of Eliza descendants a cousin John, as Christopher mentioned, has done much more work on our Pavord line and so if you would like to connect with him, please email me at rhonda52@netspace.net.au. By the way I am in North Queensland.
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hello all again , I figured out that the spelling changed due to the curators of each church changing over time . whilst looking throught the church record in dorset being barwick nethercompton and stoford and bradfor abbas it seems that each curator even in families spelt it different ways eg lucy pavord born 1801 barwick and George pavert born 1803 barwick etc down the line of names also came across pavert pavord pavett pavitt paverd even in one family it changes. so it seems its the same lineage.
regards bev
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also came across a William lord pavitt born 16 oct 1831 in Hallingbury Essex baptised 28 dec 1832 Hatfield Heath Essex page 67 RG4 non conformist register married 16 nov 1854 wimbishsafron walden Essex Probably spelt wrong wife was sarah ann hill.
also said his father was joseph pavitt mother Elizabeth .
also have a joseph pavitt 1752 barwick married ann in 1777 died 1859 father Charles ann born 1754 are these any relations
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sorry for the continued posts ,,, have 2 cousins one in south Australia and one in Sydney new south wales who are from pavitts. there are also pavitt/etts living in Portland Victoria who are from said josephs children on is in his 90's ..
Rhoda your descendant Thomas 1772 is the brother of joseph who is my descendant do you have Thomas's parents names as the names for joseph are ann and Charles or joseph ?? also found that they had a child Thomas in 1791no 439 who died in 1858 also confired Samuel in 1792 on 22/7 buried in 1824 dec 26 no 106 pg 14 all nether Compton dorset England
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Christopherchi, the bradfor abbas pavitts are from William pavitt baptised in nether compton married in Bradford abbas and had children in both places one of whom is my ggg grandfather who came out to Australia as a convict transported to Tasmania Launceston was deported in 1842 on the ship Bolivia held in section 184 also his sons William and George My gg grandfather came out on the bounty system on 9 dec 1842 came out unmarried on the Bolivia also said to be able to read and write but William could only read paid wages of 15 pounds pa. another William pavitt unassisted immigrand departed adelaid for Sydney in 1858 on the vessel Robertina father William and George moved to Victoria around 1856 other pavitts saile on the monarch in 1850 almost died at sea some left ship in Hobart john and Elizabeth and their 8 sons3 daughters plus a Samuel farr eldest daughters fiancé.these were the first british settlers to the area of Akaroa Harbour Hobart Tasmania.
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Hi, Bev -- I think the two Williams, one bp. 1749 at Bradford Abbas (a son of Jonas & Luce Pavot/Pavitt) and yours bp. 1799 at Nether Compton (a son of Joseph & Grace Paverd/Pavord), are part of how the Pavords and Pavitts begin to seem interchangeable, but they are best regarded as distinct lines. Your William is bp. as a Pavord, but when married to Elizabeth Hellyar at Bradford Abbas in 1820, he is suddenly recorded as a Pavitt (likely because whoever recorded the marriage was used to recording Pavitts!). However, as noted in my earlier post, a couple of us working on these lines have yet to find a clear common forebear. It has been frustrating since the two families come so close to one another in that Bradford Abbas marriage record, and as you note, in William & Elizabeth's residence there -- raising children (generally bp. as "Paverd") practically alongside the children of my 3rd GG Ann (Childs) Pavitt & husband John -- and in later records showing Pavords in Stoford -- practically next door.
If anyone has (or can find) an original source(s) -- a clear record -- that connects the two lines, that would be great and very helpful. For the present, the Paffords in Canada and my family in the U.S. continue to hope for more DNA data that may at least give us an accurate picture of our respective ancestry in either clan!
If we could get Y-DNA data both from a male direct descendant of John Pavitt of Bradford Abbas, _and_ from a male direct descendant of Joseph Pavord of Nether Compton, that would be fantastic as it could not only address the Paffords' and my questions, but should also tell us whether the Bradford Abbas Pavitts and the Nether Compton (and Stoford) Pavords are at all closely related, or very distantly... or (possibly) not at all.
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also came across a William lord pavitt born 16 oct 1831 in Hallingbury Essex baptised 28 dec 1832 Hatfield Heath Essex page 67 RG4 non conformist register married 16 nov 1854 wimbishsafron walden Essex Probably spelt wrong wife was sarah ann hill.
also said his father was joseph pavitt mother Elizabeth .
also have a joseph pavitt 1752 barwick married ann in 1777 died 1859 father Charles ann born 1754 are these any relations
These are interesting -- in general the Essex Pavitts seem another separate bunch (I think I earlier mentioned the website "The Pavitts of Essex" which might offer some insight). This Joseph (father of William Lord Pavitt) seems unlikely to be the one born about 1772 (in Stoford, if memory serves) as he would be -- if still living -- about 60. But stranger things have happened. I am working on 1772 Joseph at the moment and will post again if I find better info.
As to 1752 Joseph of Barwick, I think he's new to me but I have encountered so many Pavitts in two years of work that I'll go doublecheck my lists.
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Hello Chris there are 3 of us who have done DNA which is how we found each other here in Australia . would it help if we sent you results?
regards Bev campbell
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If the tests are of autosomal DNA, that would most certainly be of interest... and would require me to finally do my homework so I understand the tests & results better! [I'm assuming that your individual test was probably _not_ done by Family Tree DNA, since I just zipped through about the top 1/3 of the 2,000-plus (!) matches on my FT DNA FamilyFinder list and didn't see your name. If you did use FT, let me know and I'll comb through the rest of the list.]
Another way to go, if you're willing to do it, would be to log the results on gedmatch.com -- which compares results across the several different outfits that do autosomal DNA tests -- and let their software do the work.
FYI I think gedmatch may also handle direct-maternal-line mitochondrial DNA tests, but in my case, it's the direct paternal, male-to-male Y-DNA that's most relevant. (Those results can be compared across outfits using ysearch.org.)
Best email to use for me [I'll type it with "(dot)" and "(at)" as this is supposedly safer?] is probably christopher_childs (at) earthlink (dot) net. Some people have reported difficulties with earthlink blocking emails even though my spam protection is minimal; if you get a bounce, try my gmail address, which should forward to one of my home emailboxes and circumvent Earthlink's sometimes-unneeded protection: spiritsterrain (at) gmail (dot) com .
Thanks!
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Hi Christopher, No my DNA was done through ancestry, is there anyway that I can get my dna to you ?
I will check out ancestry to see if I can get my results.
regards, Bev
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I would very much hope that ancestry offers instructions for how to upload your results to gedmatch.com -- that would be the easiest way.
But even if you are just able to get the basic data in a form you can send me, I think what I would do first is forward it to Fred Pafford, who understands the science far better than I, and can probably interpret the results.
I'm actually right in the middle of composing an email to Fred and I'll ask what he recommends.
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Bev -- Fred isn't sure whether ancestry offers instructions on uploading to GEDMatch.com, but he says the GEDMatch site gives good instructions for uploading results from any DNA test. So hopefully that wouldn't be too hard.
But if you want to send me results I will do my best to interpret them, and can forward them to Fred for his more-experienced interpretation.
I'll also send him the URL for this thread in case he wants to chime in here.
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Christopher.
thanks for the quick reply see what I can get out of ancestry
regards, Bev
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FYI Fred informed me yesterday that he and his sibs and uncle all show a significant autosomal DNA connection to an individual (surname: Lancaster) known to be a descendant of the Pavard/Pavord line -- so there are increasingly good odds that the Paffords are cousins of yours. My own atDNA connection to the Lancaster results is very slim, and doesn't really prove anything one way or the other. But in Fred's case it does very strongly suggest that we have been on the right track in connecting him to the line of Thomas & Jane (Woods) Pavord, Thomas being a son of Joseph & first wife Grace (Matthews) Pavord (a widowed Joseph later married Mary Langdon in 1822, whom I was trying to trace last night; she may -- uncertain -- have been born Mary Neville, who it appears may have married an older man, George Langdon, and been widowed in 1820; again, this is not yet proven).
I am working on Joseph's parentage -- I know that somewhere back down this thread he was connected as a son, by John Pavord (jmpav) I think, of a couple John & Elizabeth (another genealogist shows their surname as "Parford") out of West Stafford, but I am a bit puzzled because a different, seemingly logical candidate pair exists right in Barwick -- adjoining Stoford, where Joseph (according to two censuses) was born in about 1772. They are John and Martha (Langdon) Pavard, m. 1762 at St. Mary Magdalene in Barwick. This is the same church where Grace's burial is recorded in 1821; I also note the connection to the Langdon family in the marriages of two generations.
If anyone has and can share any _solid source information_ that points in either direction for Joseph's parentage, I hope they'll post here! I am logging this line on WikiTree, individual profile by individual profile, and do not want to show either couple as parents until and unless I can cite reasonable sources (preferably, sources that can either be found online, or shared in a free public venue... as someone who like many other amateur genealogists works on an incredibly limited budget, I often cannot access material on ancestry.com that requires a paid membership). As it stands now I would have just barely enough sourced info to log John & Martha as the parents, but with reservations and with the notation that the connection is speculative.
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Whoops, one correction: John & Martha were m. at Barwick in 1763, not 1762.
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Hi my name is Don Pavitt from Mollymook Beach NSW Australia. I’m a direct ascendant of John Pavitt and Ann Child of Bradford Abbas Dorset. Their sons Jonas (used also Alfred John) and my GGG grandfather Simeon were born in the 1820’s. The surname of Pavord and Peartt as well as Pavett, Paverd and Patriot were used in different census, births deaths and marriages...these surnames were linked. I noticed that my descendants in census 1841 Bradford Abbas lived next door to teenagers by the name of David and George Pavord born Nether Compton they possibly maybe linked to the family in Barwick Somerset as Elizabeth passed away in 1837 and her children were separated. William Anstice was residing with his Grandparents in the 1841 census. I’m also wishing to link Joseph Pavitt/Pavord with my descendants..any help would be appreciated. cheers
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Hi Don Pavitt from New South Wales Australia ..looking for information on Pavitt family 1800 from Bradford Abbas Dorset and Sherborne Somerset Area. Trying to link families from both areas could be under name of Pavitt or Pavord and also come from Nether Compton. Any help would be appreciated
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Hello, Don -- returning to this discussion after a very long absence, I'm intrigued to see your two posts from 2020. In brief, I can tell you that (as I suggested was likely in my earlier posts) the family of John Pavitt of Bradford Abbas is almost certainly quite distinct from the Pavords of Nether Compton. While John Pavitt, who married my 3rd great grandmother Ann Chiles/Childs as his second wife, did become the _step_father to my 2nd great grandfather -- William Henry Childs, born in 1812 -- Y-DNA indicates that William Henry's biological father was most likely one of the Nether Compton Pavords.
Specifically, the most likely candidates are two teenaged Pavord boys, Samuel or Thomas, born in 1792 and 1794 respectively: they lived perhaps two miles, at most, from Ann Childs's native hamlet of Clifton Maybank (which nestles up against Bradford Abbas). Ann was born in late 1791 or very early 1792 (she was baptized on 15 January 1792), and was thus closest to Samuel in age. Samuel would have been of marrying age by 1812, though at 20 he'd still have been unusually young; Thomas would have been barely 18... which might perhaps explain why Ann did not acquire a husband by the time of William Henry's birth.
Both Samuel and Thomas married other young women by about 1815, and it is of interest to note that Thomas's wife, Jane Woods [to whom I am related; my paternal great grandmother was born Charlotte Woods] was evidently pregnant with their first child, daughter Jane -- born in August of 1815 -- at the time of their early-March nuptials. So it is conceivable, no pun intended, that there was a pattern of behavior here on Thomas's part....
I log my research on WikiTree, where I volunteer with a couple of pre-1700 projects; you can find my profile there at wikitree (dot) com/wiki/Childs-1516. I will try to check back here for any replies or additions to this discussion, but please also feel free to send me a private message from my WikiTree page (this may require that you register on the site, which is free). My tree is public -- click on the "Family Tree & Genealogy Tools" tab, and follow the Childs line back (click on the tiny red/blue arrowheads in the righthand column to get beyond the first five generations), and you will find John Pavitt listed as William Henry Childs's [non-biological] father... simply because he is the only father William Henry ever knew, and because there is some evidence that the two became close.
I am occasionally in touch with a gent in England [I'm in the States] who would be a half-cousin of yours, as he is a descendant of John Pavitt and John's first wife, Martha Adams. If you would like, I can try to put you in touch with him; his name is James Bevan, and he's quite experienced at genealogy... and knows the Pavitt lineage very well.
Very best wishes for your research; please let me know if I can be helpful.
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Don, a bit of followup: I'm intrigued by your statement that Jonas Pavitt, son of John and Ann, "used also Alfred John". On WikiTree, we have Jonas simply as "Jonas Ullford Pavitt" -- see wikitree (dot) com/wiki/Pavitt-68 -- with the note that in the 1841 census, he appears as _James_ rather than Jonas, and with the surname, as so often happened, spelled as "Pavord".
If you can provide a link to any freely online-available record showing him as "Alfred John", that would be helpful, as it will allow me to edit his profile and include that information.
[I would also note that we know Jonas had an elder half-brother named John -- see wikitree (dot) com/wiki/Pavitt-123 -- whose mother was John's first wife, Martha (Adams) Pavitt, who died after five years of marriage.]
The Pavitt family-member WikiTree profiles that were created in 2015, including the ones for Jonas and John, were established not by me (though I have since become the profile manager) but by the descendant I mentioned above, James Bevan... who has done a great deal of careful work on the family's lineage. So I need very sound documentation, generally in the form of primary records, before making changes to those profiles.
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... and just one more addendum: the one Alfred John Pavitt I have been able to find anywhere online was in fact born at Chipping Ongar, Essex, in 1846; he was a son of William and Susan. You can find a record of his birth at familysearch (dot) org/ark:/61903/1:1:265X-KBS; he also appears in the 1851 and 1861 censuses -- see familysearch (dot) org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGVD-5PR and (as "Alfred J. Pairtt") familysearch (dot) org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWM4-D6V; and then once more in the census of 1901, this time living in Herts: see familysearch (dot) org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS4C-TSP.
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