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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Topic started by: Fish, Jacqueline on Wednesday 09 February 11 15:32 GMT (UK)
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Hi. I am trying to trace my family or at very least find out more. My biological grandfather was Francis Frederick Eaves (I have no birth details) who married Frances Mary Bennett who was born 25.08.1920 and is now deceased. They had a daughter named Christine Mary in the UK. Frances Mary Whittle was later married to Joseph Whittle. They lived in Birmingham, UK but Mary and Joseph Whittle later moved to Johannesburg, South Africa and then Cape Town and had two more daughters, Sandra and Sheila.
Frances Mary Bennets fathers name was William Henry Bennett. I have one faded address that looks like 36 Srechford Road, Waid End. Mary and Joseph Whittle were married in Birmingham.
Joseph Whittle resided at 72 Woolacrmlie Road (old writing, very difficult to read), Selly Oak when he and Mary married on 23.07.1949
Joseph Whittle was married before this to Margaret Elizabeth Jackson. He owned a jewellery shop together with a jewish partner in Cape Town.
Joseph Whittle ID No : 2004245045109 and he became a South African citizen on 4.1.2001 Doc No 1558/01ks. He had I think 7 brothers and a sister named Joan.
Joseph and Marys daughter, Christine Whittle married for the second time to Andrew Arthur Fish and had two children, one being me, Jacqueline Lisa Fish.
I realise I have very little to go on but I feel lost not knowing so much about my family and advice would be most welcome as i am brand new to investigating family tree.
If anyone can help I would be most grateful.
Thank you
Jackie
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just to get you started F.F Eaves Death Index entry indicates an 1918 birth.
Francis Frederick Eaves
Birth - 19 Jan 1918
Death Registration - Mar 2004
Registered in Birmingham District
Register number - I24B
District and Subdistrict - 061/1I
Entry number - 221
So here is his Birth Index entry - given the mother's maiden name is shown, you should be able to find siblings post 1911 and also an Eaves to Warner marriage in the period and prob the District.
Francis F Eaves
Mother's Maiden name = Warner
Registration Jan - Mar quarter of 1918
Registration district - Aston
Volume Number - 6d
Page Number - 787
It m a y be that he married again to a (*)in 1963 - tell me if you want the Index detail.
You can order certificate with the GRO refn info (as shown above) online fromn the GRO:-
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
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Frances Mary Bennets fathers name was William Henry Bennett. I have one faded address that looks like 36 Srechford Road, Waid End. Mary and Joseph Whittle were married in Birmingham.
Joseph Whittle resided at 72 Woolacrmlie Road (old writing, very difficult to read), Selly Oak when he and Mary married on 23.07.1949
could be woolacombe rd-see it on google maps
and stechford rd, birmingham
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FreeBMD shows a possible sister for Francis -Marjorie born to Eaves/ Warner Dec 1915 in King's Norton district (which included Selly Oak).
A marriage is possible for her
Sep 1940 Eaves Marjorie (*)
Genes Reunited may help you to locate living rellies
possible marriage for Francis' parents
Sep 1899 Eaves William to Warner Emily at King's N. 6c 834
that should help you locate them on the 1901 census and help you with places of their birth and ages, occupations
Monique
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William Henry Bennett. I have one faded address that looks like 36 Srechford Road,
I no longer have a subscription for census records, but someone else may provide the details for the 1901 for this likely record:
William Henry Bennett and spouse Julia Alice living Warwickshire
If it looks like a possible, then this would be the marriage
Jun 1900 Bennett William Henry to Roberts Julia Alice Solihull 6d 1105
their marriage certificate will provide parents names and that will lead to the next generation and earlier census records. FreeCen has very good coverage of warwickshire (1891 is 100%) and free
What is the name of Joseph Wittles father on the marriage certificate in 1949?
I hope that helps
Monique
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Frances Mary Bennett's Birth Index entry indicates a different Mothers Maiden name....
Births Dec 1920
Bennett Frances M Plowmer Aston 6d 787
altho, for a reported August birth, she was registered in the next quarter of 1920 .....
there are a l o t of William H Bennetts in the area :(
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Oooopsy, be careful folks, some of these people could be alive. To let you know, Jackie, no stuff about living or possibly living people is allowed on Rootschat and there is a risk the moderators will pull the thread. If you look in the Help section, you'll see the guidelines and suggestions for finding living rellies.
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thats why we only worked backwards ;)
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later census entries for william/ emily Eaves to follow up-though you have to pay to view
the 1911
EAVES HERBERT CHARLES WILLIAM M b 1909 2 Kings Norton Worcestershire
EAVES WILLIAM M 1875 36 Kings Norton Worcestershire
EAVES WILLIAM HENRY M 1901 10 Kings Norton Worcestershire
and for William Henry Bennett/ Julia
BENNETT WILLIAM HENRY M 1877 34 Kings Norton Worcestershire
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on the 1891, William Henry may be the stepson of John Wassall
Piece: RG12/2405 Place: Aston -Warwickshire Enumeration District: 21
Civil Parish: Aston Ecclesiastical Parish: Saint Albans
Folio: 27 Page: 9 Schedule: 53
Address: 26 Dymoke St
You might want to review what you ahve so far to see if we are going in anywhere near the right direction
Oh-and welcome to Rootschat :)
Monique
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Hello Jackie, I hope you are still logging in?
I am new to this family finding but stumbled upon you thread and think we might be related. If Francis Frederick was the son of William Eaves my Grandfathers uncle then we are, I have ordered some documents and will let you know the outcome.
regards
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Jackie joined Rootschat on 9 February 11 and that was the last time she logged in.
Hopefully she is receiving notifications of the replies people have made here,as long as she hasn't changed her email address. We can't even send her a personal message as she has only made one posting.
Carol
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Carol8353 thanks for the info, I hope Jackie is still looking in or getting notifications.
I can confirm that her Francis Frederick Eaves 1918-2004 is the son of William Eaves my grandfathers uncle, Williams father was also Francis Frederick Eaves C1824-1896 which is our blood line.
Phillip
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Try sending her a pm-she may respond to that rather than a simple notification that the thread is updated
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Try sending her a pm-she may respond to that rather than a simple notification that the thread is updated
At the moment Jackie only has 1 post- members usually need 3 to use PM system.
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I thought anyone could receive pms but only those with enough posts can send?
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I thought anyone could receive pms but only those with enough posts can send?
Not always. I think, for example, that members with less than 3 posts can sometimes view 1 PM but that this is not always the case.
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Hello Emma Anne, I have never had a response from Jacqueline and have been unable to find her, do you have information on Francis Frederick Eaves, are you related to our family?
thanks
Phillip Eaves
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Is it possible to PM?
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Hi
ive sent a PM hope you get it
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Jackie joined Rootschat on 9 February 11 and that was the last time she logged in.
Hopefully she is receiving notifications of the replies people have made here,as long as she hasn't changed her email address. We can't even send her a personal message as she has only made one posting.
Carol
I typed this reply in Feb 2013 and the situation is still the same,Jacqueline never did log back in to Rootschat. I don't know if a moderator has an email address for her?
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Jackie joined Rootschat on 9 February 11 and that was the last time she logged in.
Hopefully she is receiving notifications of the replies people have made here,as long as she hasn't changed her email address. We can't even send her a personal message as she has only made one posting.
Carol
I typed this reply in Feb 2013 and the situation is still the same,Jacqueline never did log back in to Rootschat. I don't know if a moderator has an email address for her?
Moderators cannot give out email addresses of members.
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I don't know if a moderator has an email address for her?
Moderators cannot give out email addresses of members.
No, but I know that they can email people to remind them that there is a reply to a message.
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Has anyone on this thread actually tried sending a PM- sometimes members with only 1 post can get one PM but not send any until they've made a reply. If a PM is sent and the email address is no longer valid then Rootschat will be notified of a bounced message and a note might appear under that member's avatar.
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The only people authorised to contact chatters by personal email in these instances are Trystan & Sarah, the site owners.
I'll report this topic to them and see if they can send Jackie a message about the posts here.
It hasn't been possible to send her a pm, her inbox is 'full' so someone else has tried before.
You need a higher post count to be able to send and receive more messages.
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Hello I have just checked on Jacqueline's email settings and notifications, I am sorry to say that the email she registered with is no longer working.
Regards
Sarah
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Thanks for the update Sarah ;)
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That's a shame Sarah.
I knew that I'd seen it somewhere that you had the powers to check such things ;D
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If there is a problem contacting someone it could be for various reasons, sometimes the change email address and sometimes they turn off notifications etc If anyone is struggling they are best just to let us know and we can then check for them. In this case it was a company email and I guess they have changed jobs.