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Title: O'Shea - Carrick On Suir
Post by: Hammond01 on Friday 11 February 11 13:32 GMT (UK)
Look for info on my grt grandfather James O'Shea (born Shea).

B. 1891 Carrick On Suir Workhouse

Mother - Ellen Shea, no father on birth certificate

Married 1951 Annie Shea St Nicholas parish Carrick On Suir

Died 1981 Camden London

I belive James O'Shea had siblings, can anyone confirm this?  (Poss a brother called Garrigan)

He also had at least 3 sons, one being my grandfather Michael O'shea b. 1919 Carrick on suir.

Can anyone help?
Title: Re: O'Shea - Carrick On Suir
Post by: annclare on Friday 11 February 11 17:41 GMT (UK)
Hi Hammond

You have your grandfather Michael born in 1919 but have his parents James Shea (O Shea) married in 1951 - Are the dates correct?
annclare
Title: Re: O'Shea - Carrick On Suir
Post by: Hammond01 on Friday 11 February 11 18:50 GMT (UK)
Sorry, an error on my part, his parents were married in 1915, valentines day, 14th Feb - St Nicholas Carrick on Suir.
Title: Re: O'Shea - Carrick On Suir
Post by: Hammond01 on Saturday 12 February 11 19:11 GMT (UK)
.....more info

James O'Shea came to London sometime in 1920/30 and married an Ellen Hoolihan in 1937, St Pancras, London.

They had one daughter Mary Ellen Shea b 1938, St Pancras, London, d. 2008 Camden, London.

He also had two other sons, Patrick (Paddy) and William (Billy).  Still searching for info on these.

Sound familiar to anyone?
Title: Re: O'Shea - Carrick On Suir
Post by: Ricoshea13 on Monday 06 February 17 18:13 GMT (UK)
I think James, your Grandfather, is my great uncle.  My Grandfather was Patrick, or Garrigan as he was known. My father was Patrick Oshea, who sadly passed last year. He is survived by two brothers; Francis and Richard.
Title: Re: O'Shea - Carrick On Suir
Post by: Ricoshea13 on Monday 06 February 17 18:15 GMT (UK)
Sorry ammendment to above, my Grandfather was James Oshea's brother, not Michael's.
Title: Re: O'Shea - Carrick On Suir
Post by: Hammond01 on Friday 10 February 17 10:09 GMT (UK)
Thanks for getting in contact.
This certainly does sound like the correct family.  So your grandfathers mother was Ellen Shea? I have been working really hard on trying to find more out about her.
For Christmas I bought my mother a DNA ancestry testing kit and am hoping this helps a little.
Would be great to share info with you.
Title: Re: O'Shea - Carrick On Suir
Post by: Ricoshea13 on Friday 10 February 17 11:25 GMT (UK)
Hello Hammond,

Yes, thanks to a really helpful person on here i managed to trace back to Ellen Shea, I did end up going to far and finding an Ellen Shea with two sons, James and Patrick  , remarried to a James Fitzgerald but James Shea 's age didn't match up.
Sadly my father passed last year but my mum knows quite a bit about your grt Grandfather and Grandfather from what my dad has told her over the years.
I have an uncle Francis still alive and my mother is going to find out more when she sees him soon and also a cousin born in Carrick on Suir who may know quite a bit.
What's your name?
My mum thinks Michael had two daughters and she remembers a Billy, Paddy and Juju? But not sure if they are Michael's sons. How does that sound?
Title: Re: O'Shea - Carrick On Suir
Post by: Hammond01 on Friday 10 February 17 12:26 GMT (UK)
My name is Sarah, I am the daughter of Kathleen O'Shea (Michael's daughter). My mum has 7 siblings including Paddy and JuJu (who sadly passed a few years ago). Billy was Michael's half brother. James remarried and had several more children.
My mum remembers your O'Shea side well from when she was younger. My grandad Michael was very fond of all your family.
I also found the record showing Ellen as remarried, I was unsure if this was correct, but another family member seems to think it may be. I also found a record of James and Patrick (Garriagan) living with their grandfather.
James married an Annie Shea, with all the same surnames it makes life very difficult when searching!
Title: Re: O'Shea - Carrick On Suir
Post by: Ricoshea13 on Friday 10 February 17 16:45 GMT (UK)
Then I guess we are distant cousins then Sarah. I'm Richie, my father was Patrick and there's my uncles Frank and Richie the only ones left of my dad's siblings.
You've got a ton of Osheas in  Battersea, Sidcup , andy a few in south London. Cousins ,Flemings , still in Carrick and  various in Canada.
I've got 2 brothers and sisters.
 

Are you over Camden way? It would be good to hear from you all and please give our regards to your mum from all the O'shea's from Garrigan's side . Thanks for messaging
Title: Re: O'Shea - Carrick On Suir
Post by: Sinann on Friday 10 February 17 18:11 GMT (UK)
I was beginning to think you weren't coming back Ricoshea13

Did you look at the Census
Hmm, I just looked into that and I may have gone off target. James Shea born 1891 making him too old to be the same step son. , I might rewind a bit.

The James O'Shea from the other thread, mother Ellen, no father.
Have another look at the original image of the 1911 Census, could James' age be 19 and 11 months, rather than 12 and 11 months.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003370765/



Hammond01 might like to see all the new records found on the other thread.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=513578.0
Title: Re: O'Shea - Carrick On Suir
Post by: Ricoshea13 on Friday 10 February 17 18:28 GMT (UK)
Yes , sorry Sinann, caught up with general stuff and haven't been on here for a bit but I didn't think of that (I  was going off the text copy from the website) .
Now of course my siblings are expecting a quill drawn family tree on parchment! And thanks to you for your diligence, I do intend digging as far back as I can. Hammond informs me there's a record of James and Patrick living with their Grandfather that I hope to follow up, which will open a whole new thread .
How about yourself?, are you from Carrick on Suir?
Title: Re: O'Shea - Carrick On Suir
Post by: Sinann on Friday 10 February 17 23:34 GMT (UK)
No, I don't think I've ever visited Carrick.
It's great to see James and Patrick's descendants getting together. Enjoy.