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Title: Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
Post by: greenvalley on Wednesday 09 March 11 16:57 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I came accross the death of Thomas Matson, who lived at the Lodging House at 77 Drygate Street in Barony Glasgow in 1927.

I wonder whether this was a poorhouse, or a real lodging house. Does anyone know?

Greenvalley
Title: Re: Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
Post by: Emjaybee on Wednesday 09 March 11 17:13 GMT (UK)
A lodging house would provide basic food and shelter often for itinerant workers.

The poor house was just that a home for the poor when workhouses were phased out.
Title: Re: Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
Post by: Lodger on Wednesday 09 March 11 18:00 GMT (UK)
Poorhouse was the Scottish equivalent of the English term workhouse.
A lodging house was, as Emjaybee pointed out, a "Boarding House", very basic and not always very clean. Glasgow Corporation (now Glasgow City Council) ran many "Model Lodging Houses" mostly for men but there were a few for women.
The one in the Drygate many have been a "Model" as they were known, I'm not too sure.

Lodger
Title: Re: Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 09 March 11 18:21 GMT (UK)
You are absolutely right in your hunch, Lodger  ;) From the 1927 PO directory, it shows as a Model Lodging House http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glasgow/1927address845.jpg

Monica

Added: Photo here of the Drygate Model Lodging House www.rootschat.com/links/0c73/ - link shrunk from the Virtual Mitchell site.
Title: Re: Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
Post by: greenrig on Wednesday 09 March 11 18:25 GMT (UK)
Glasgow Post office street directory for 1933 shows 77 Drygate  C4 as "Model Lodging House".  Wm Jardine (living at 85 Drygate) is listed as the "Superintendant Drygate Home"  at 77 Drygate.
Title: Re: Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 09 March 11 18:31 GMT (UK)
Still showing up to 1959 - later photo here www.rootschat.com/links/0c74/
Title: Re: Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
Post by: mosstrooper on Wednesday 09 March 11 23:40 GMT (UK)
There is still a Model Lodging House on the Gallowgate as far as I know, just before you get to The Barrows.

James.
Title: Re: Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
Post by: greenvalley on Thursday 10 March 11 14:16 GMT (UK)
Thank you guys, I loved the pictures.

I did think that Thomas may not have been very well off. He was 75 years old when he died and he was a shoemaker, although I'm not sure if he was still working.

Mind you, I can easily see myself in one of those in years to come if things keep going the way they are and of course we'll all still be working our socks of at the tender age of 75  ;D

Greenvalley
Title: Re: Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
Post by: lanarkshire lassie on Saturday 12 March 11 14:47 GMT (UK)
I would be interested to find out when these "Model / Boarding Houses" ceased .

I remember my mum mentioning gents from "the model" in Mossend, coming around the doors selling matches. This would have been around 1954-1960.

Gail
Title: Re: Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
Post by: mosstrooper on Saturday 12 March 11 15:13 GMT (UK)
The Belgrove in Gallowgate taken in 1991. still going strong.

James.
Title: Re: Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
Post by: sancti on Saturday 12 March 11 15:44 GMT (UK)
Plenty still in Glasgow

http://glasgowhelp.com/listServices.php?category=18
Title: Re: Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
Post by: chloeben on Monday 10 December 12 21:31 GMT (UK)
I lived at 95 Drygate in the late 50's and remember walking past the men's model many times as a young girl. They were poor men and some drunks but I remember them handing out 2 shillings or a half a crown to myself and my younger brother, poor as they were they did that!!!!!! That's the Glasgow poor for you!!!
Title: Re: Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
Post by: Rayjamgor on Friday 11 April 14 23:14 BST (UK)
Just found out my Great gg granda Gordon lived at Drygate Model lodging house in 1901 census. he died in the Greenock Poorhouse in 1902 . Plasterer to trade he was always on his travels,born Perth , living in Aberdeen, Glasgow,Newcastle,Liverpool and Glasgow and finally Greenock. Funnily enough his grandson ,my granda Gordon lived in John Knox Street and ended his days in the Great Eastern Model  across the road . My granda would rather buy you a drink than give you money lol
Title: Re: Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
Post by: Skoosh on Monday 12 February 18 12:37 GMT (UK)
The Great Eastern, formerly Anderson's cotton mill & then a Model Lodging House, is now converted into flats. The Molendinar burn makes a brief appearance by the west gable where it disappears into a culvert & only appears again below the weir over the Clyde at Glasgow Green, which is tidal below that point.

Skoosh.