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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: daval57 on Saturday 12 March 11 22:38 GMT (UK)
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I wonder if anyone who has any Scottish Forrests in their tree would be willing to send me what info they have so that I could add it to my site.
In return, I'd happily give you access to my site which currently has around 650 Forrests on it, primarily from the Central regions but I'm slowly expanding it.
Dave
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Hi Daval57
I wondered if you have a Duncan Forrest and a Christian Borrowman somewhere in your branches. Hailing from the Lanarkshire area?.
They were married 24/3/1816.
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I have no Duncan Forrest in my data at all.
Do you know Duncans parents names?
Feel free to request an invite to the site (link at foot of my message) and I'll allow you access.
Dave
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Hi Daval57
Thanks for getting back to me.I only discovered Duncan yesterday and haven't had a chance to go digging yet.
Not easy when you work shifts.. ;)
Mac
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Hi Dave,
My name is Alexander Forrest MILNE. I am named after my father Alexander Forrest MILNE who was named after an uncle Alexander D. FORREST. Alexander FORREST b. abt 1875 in Montrose, Angus d. 14 Oct 1936 in Montrose, Angus married my gr-aunt Annabella Scott DAKERS b. 17 Feb 1874 in Montrose, Angus d. 26 Nov 1955 in Montrose, Angus. I have been told by family members that they had a son and grandson also named Alexander FORREST but I have no details on dates or places of birth. The parents of Alexander FORREST were John FORREST b. abt 1845 in Brechin, Angus and Helen DUNCAN b. abt 1848 in Dun, Angus.
Does any of this tie in with your FORRESTs?
Alex
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Hi Alex,
Sorry but I don't appear to have your folks on my database (yet). Do you mind if I add what info you have supplied?
Feel free to click on the blue link at the bottom of this message and request an invite to the site.
You can then look around at your leisure.
Dave
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Hi Dave,
Please feel free to use what I have provided. Sorry that I do not have more details at this time.
Alex
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Hi Dave,
I see from your web site that you are also researching the MORE family. My wife's mother was Isabella Reid MORE b. 12 May 1913 in Maryhill, Glasgow dau. of Gavin Rankine MORE and Jessie McDONALD. I have very little more than this on this family. Do we have a connection here?
Alex
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I only have one More in my database...
Janet More, who married Peter Forrest. They had 1 daughter that I have traced - Mary Forrest b17 March 1821 in Killearn.
So, unless they had sons that I haven't found, or mary had an illegitimate child, there will be no connection to your More line.
RUBBISH ;D
I'm getting confused. Any connection to your More would have to go back to Janet More's parents at least. I have no other info on More at the moment.
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Going back to your previous post about Alexander Forrest born about 1875.
He was born ALEXANDER DUNCAN FORREST on 14th May 1875 at 50 New Wynd, Montrose. John Forrest and Helen Duncan were married on 26th June 1866 at Montrose.
They also had children:
MARY SINCLAIR FORREST -29 JUL 1866 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
CHARLES DUNCAN FORREST =18 FEB 1872 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
SUSAN GREIG FORREST - 16 FEB 1873 Montrose, Angus, Scotland
CHRISTINA CRAWFORD FORREST - 27 MAY 1868 Brechin, Angus, Scotland
GEORGE WHYTE FORREST - 02 APR 1870 Brechin, Angus, Scotland
I may have more for you on this but need to sign off soon.
Dave
PS - Alexander b1875 I got from SP (copy cert on my site), his siblings I got from IGI/LDS. The siblings I need to verify but will check census records when I get a chance.
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Thanks Dave for the information on Alexander FORREST. I was missing quite a lot of the detail that you provided.
Alex
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Hi Alex, great, I'm pleased.
Are you stuck with anything else on the Forrests? I might be able to help if you'd like.
Dave
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Hi again Alex.
I've just found John Forrest and Helen Forrest in 1881 census with Alexander and 5 siblings.
John is recorded as being 36 and Helen 33.
Difference in names of a couple of the siblings so needs checked out a bit more.
I'm going out now but will look again later.
D
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...and again Alex.......
John Forrest and Helen Duncan had at least 8 children, including Alexander Duncan Forrest.
There were the five siblings I mentioned previously, plus 2 others:
ANN D FORREST born circa 1878 Montrose
JOHN FORREST born circa 1880 Montrose
Of the children I mentioned before,
Charles died in 1872 (presumably at birth , certainly very young - age recorded as 0)
SUSAN died in 1876 (recorded as age 5 - but this could be transcribed incorrectly as her birth is definitely 1873)
I attach a screen print of the way I see this part of the family. (Excuse the layout - it's straight from my site)
Dave
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Thanks for all the details Dave. I had all the siblings but not some of the details on death dates and the husbands of the girls. I knew Annabella Dakers (Auntie Belle) personally as I lived in Montrose for a few years but I never met Alexander Forrest as he had died before I arrived in Montrose.
Alex
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One thing I loved Alex, is that your family kept the tradition of continuing the family surnames through the middle names. Respect! :)
D
added - that also makes it a dang site easier to research! ;D
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Hi Dave
I have three Forrest families that I am related to, that immigrated to Western Australia.
It is said by some that they were not related, but these families over time in WA did eventually connect again through marraige.
There has always been whispers in my family that these families were acctually related back in Scotland.
I will list the Ancestors of these three WA families.
Helen Scott, nee McGregor Nee Forrest Born 1794 Damhill, Corehouse, Lanark
Arrived in Fremantle Western Australia 1831 with Her 2nd Husband John Robert Scott
And 3 sons Daniel McGregor, John William Scott & Robert
She was the Daughter of Mungo Forrest & Marion Anderson - Lesmahagow, Lanark
William Forrest 1819 Stonehaven, Dunottar, Kincardineshire, Scotland - married Margaret Hill
William lived in Glasgow before coming to Australia on the ship "Trusty"
Settled on the end of John Scott & Helen Forrest's farm in Bunbury "Eelup" and started a Flour Mill
Helen was midwife and delivered two of their Sons Lord John Forrest of Bunbury WA's first Premier
And Sir Alexander Forrest, Perth's first mayor
they were both Explorers
The other family is that of Gaven Forrest 1788 & Mary Swan they came from Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland on the ship "Trusty" as well 1840
They Settled in Busselton WA
It has been mentioned that they were cousins to William Forrest's family but no proof as yet to this claim.
Although Gaven was ment to have been from Kincardineshire as well and worked in a Paisley or spinning mill
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Hi Dave,
My husband is related to Helen Forrest b. 1793 in Lesmahagow, Lanark, daughter of Mungo Forrest b. 1765 and Marion Anderson b. 1770 also from Lanarkshire. Helen Forrest married John Robert Scott. Not sure if they are in your tree?
Cheers,
El.
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Hi,
I have one Forrest in my tree at the moment. She's not actually related to me, her daughter was my great-grandfather's first wife, but I thought I'd share in case her info is of use to you. Plus, while I'm 99% sure she's the mother of my great-grandfather's first wife, it'd be nice to see if you've got her on your website so I can double-check.
Anyway, I have a Catherine Forrest married to a William Nimmo in Blythswood, Lanark (abt 1857). I don't have any dates for their births but their son, William, was born about 1858. Following children were Elizabeth (abt 1860) and Catherine McInnes (abt 1862). Catherine McInnes married James Alexander (1869 - 1921). Either before or after the marriage, together or separately, the pair moved from Scotland to Ireland, specifically Londonderry. In Londonderry they had a daughter, Catherine Forrest Alexander, born about 1902. Catherine McInnes died the same year, either in childbirth or shortly afterwards.
Hopefully I haven't confused my Catherine McInnes's parents with another Nimmo/Forrest couple, but it seemed unlikely that it was a coincidence, with her daughter's middle name being Forrest.
Are they in your tree at all?
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I am researching my MAIN family and am interested in the Forrests that farmed at Meadowhead farm: William Main/ Mary Forrest, married 1785; William Wylie/ Janet Forrest, married 1812 (Janet born 1791, Meadowhead to William Forrest/ Margaret Russell). I have a will of Mary Main, daughter of William Main and Mary Forrest who died in 1872 at Meadowhead, in which she leaves bequests to a number of individuals that I am researching.
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Hi Dave, Our family who came from the Hamilton area of Lanarkshire had a Rebecca Forrest who was married to John Park (farm servant) and her sister a Christina Forrest who was married to James Wilson (miner). John and Rebecca had a son John and James and Christina had a daughter Isabella,so, John and Isabella got married 9th nov. 1866 (even although they were cousins) One of their children was my great gran Christina Park and she married James Conn and they had two girls Margaret and Sarah and Sarah was my gran who died in 1980 in Hamilton. My gran Sarah was married to Sir Harry Lauder's (music hall entertainer) first born son James Reid. Harry Lauder and Margaret Stevenson Reid were only both about 17 when James (my grandfather) was born, but although they kept in touch, they did'nt marry. The Lauder and the Reid/Conn/Park/Forrest family kept in touch until their deaths. Most of our family still live in the Hamilton and Wishaw area. I was told that the Forrest family are also related to the Wotherspoon family and the Fleming family but have'nt researched that further as I'm not all that great at researching. Kind regards Christine.
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Hi again Dave,
I've recently come across another Forrest in my family tree, this time one I'm actually related to. If my research is correct, her name is Ann Forrest and she married one Archibald Alexander, probably in the Uddingston area. Their son, John, was born and baptised 1805, but I have a feeling they had children before and after him. I haven't found much more for them but if they fit with your Forrests, I'd be happy to share what I have.
All the best.
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Hi again Dave,
I've recently come across another Forrest in my family tree, this time one I'm actually related to. If my research is correct, her name is Ann Forrest and she married one Archibald Alexander, probably in the Uddingston area. Their son, John, was born and baptised 1805, but I have a feeling they had children before and after him. I haven't found much more for them but if they fit with your Forrests, I'd be happy to share what I have.
All the best.
Hi there, hope you find out a bit more about the Forrest family that is related to you, if you think any of them fit in with my family I would love to know. Kind regards Christine.
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Hi Dave
I and my wife Margaret Helen Miller (nee Forrest) are researching my wife's Forrest Ancestry. We have got as far back as James Forrest born we think in Northumberland in 1758 Baptized 21 May 1758 at St. Lawrence church, Warkworth, Northumberland, England. James married married Hannah Richardson (born in Berwick Northumberland) in Warkworth, Northumberland on 16 Jun 1793. We think James father was John Forrest and he and his ancestors may have been Scottish.
Do you have any links to Forrest's in Northumberland.
Regards
Richard
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Hi Richard, No links with Northumberland as far as I know. Good luck with your research. Kind regards Christine.
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Hi folks,
This is long overdue. However, I'm gradually getting back into the swing of researching again and have updated my tree with quite a few more lines.
Some of the info I've gleaned from you on this thread.
I haven't studied the details from ALL of you yet, but I will do.
I'm trying to 'do' people in the order they contacted me and I'm juggling between this forum and contacts that have been made from other sources.
I WILL get around to looking at everything, but as you all know, it can be very time consuming.
Feel free to request an invite to my site if you wish to have a look at the Forrests I have so far. Request can be sent here.... http://daval57.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=daval57&view=72&ver=6670&ssts=1
Christine (dobelove), I was just having a quick look at your posts before I log off for tonight. Do you happen to have dates of birth (even roughly) for Rebecca and Christine, and perhaps their father and/or mothers name? I don't have them on my site, but I have other data I can check.
Thanks to everyone so far for your input.
Dave
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Does anyone know Heather Forrest who looks after the the Forrest family free on My Heritage? I am not on that site but would very much like to get in touch re her tree .
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Can you tell me anything about what happened to george WHyte FOrrest (b. 1870) and appeared in the 1871 and 1881 census?
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Welcome to RootsChat
Back ground info for those searching - 1871 census - Ardorie House Brechin Landward
John Forrest 27 born Brechin, Forfarshire. Ag Lab.
Helen Forrest 22 born Dun, Forfarshire.
George W Forrest 1 born Brechin, Forfarshire
Mary S Forrest 9 Months. born Brechin, Forfarshire
Charles Forrest born Brechin, Forfarshire
Charles was Charles Duncan Forrest - parents John Forrest and Helen Duncan - 18 Feb 1872.
Mary was Mary Sinclair Forrest - parents John Forrest and Helen Duncan - 28 July 1866.
George was George Whyte Forrest - parents John Forrest and Helen Duncan - 2 April 1870
Sandra
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1881 census - Montrose Angus
John Forrest 36 Helen Duncan 33
Mary S Forrest 14 Christina C Forrest 12
George W Forrest 11 Alexander D Forrest 5
Ann D Forrest 3 John Forrest 1
No death jumping out on Scotlands People
Sandra
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Hi Sandra
Thanks for that - I knew that much. What I am trying to do is find out what happened to hm after 1881. In all he had 10 siblings. I am related to Christina Crawford Forrest - his sister born two years before him in 1868
David
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Hi Sandra
Thanks for that - I knew that much. What I am trying to do is find out what happened to hm after 1881. In all he had 10 siblings. I am related to Christina Crawford Forrest - his sister born two years before him in 1868
David
You might have known that but we are not psychic and we need to check census - as I said - back ground info for those searching.
Sandra
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Can you tell me anything about what happened to george WHyte FOrrest (b. 1870) and appeared in the 1871 and 1881 census?
I spent some time researching that line back in 2011 (see earlier in this thread for some of the details I found). I've checked my records again, and see that I was never able to find out what happened to George. As you are aware there is no obvious marriage or death on SP, certainly not in the Angus or Forfar area. That suggests he moved out of the area, or even abroad. There are so many George Forrests elsewhere, born around 1870, that I never pursued the search.
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Thanks for that.
I see you also had some discussion with Alex Milne around that time.
DId you resolve what happened to Alexander FOrrest the son of ALexander Forrest?
David
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Thanks for that.
I see you also had some discussion with Alex Milne around that time.
DId you resolve what happened to Alexander FOrrest the son of ALexander Forrest?
David
To a certain extent, yes. I'm on my laptop at the moment and need to check my external hard drive for more info.
I hope Alex Milne sees this reply because I don't think I ever got back to him about it - I may have done, but it was so long ago I don't recall.
Alexander Duncan Forrest married Annabella in 1905. Annabella had previously had a daughter out of wedlock around 1901 in Montrose - Jeannie Dakers (later married a James Wilson).
Alexander and Annabella had a son Alexander around 1909, also in Montrose.
I think I have the family on the 1911 census in Montrose.
I'm unsure whether I found out more about Alexander born around 1909.
I'll check once I attach my external drive.
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Alexander Duncan Forrest m Annabella Scott Dakers on 9 June 1905, Montrose.
Alexander was born 1 June 1908, Montrose
In 1911 the family were living at 49 King Street, Montrose
Alexander D Forrest head 35 flower mill labourer b Montrose
Annabella Forrest wife 37 b Montrose
Jeannie D. Forrest daughter 9 b Montrose
Alexander Forrest son 2 b Montrose
Janet Dakers neice 1 b Glasgow
Also living at 49 King St were a different family unit:
Annabella Dakers* head 63 charwoman b Logie-Pert
David Dakers son 23 seaman (merchant service) b Montrose
George Dakers grandson 14 printer b Montrose
*(I assume this is Annabella's mother, whos name is recorded as Ann Bell on Annabella's birth, and on Annabella's parents marriage in Kincardine in 1866)
Hope this helps.
Dave
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Dave:
Are you aware that Alexander Duncan's son, Alexander (b. 1908, Montrose) migrated to Australia around 1928. He was a handy player at what we call soccer and you call football. So handy, that he played for AUstralia on a handful of occasions in the 1930's - a time when Australia only played a handful of matches in any case. He married Kathleen Jean STILLARD in 1943 and served in the Australian Army during WWII. He died in 1979. While I knew that he lived in Victoria for most of his life, I never recall meeting him or his wife.
David
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I wasn't aware of this David, so thanks for that additional information. I'm heading out for today and most of tomorrow but I'll look more closely when I have time back at my computer.
Interesting about the football (soccer) connection. My Ist cousins son is James Forrest that plays for Glasgow Celtic and Scotland at the moment. Jim's young brother Alan plays for Ayr United. Both very good players.
Dave
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Hi Dave
I look forward to hearing from you.
Of interest - a 2nd cousin (also in the Forrest) was David Taylor, who was President of the Scottish FA and went on to leading roles with EUFA.
David
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Hi Dave:
You were going to follow up on one or two matters raised below. ANy progress?
David
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My apologies for delay, David. I was engrossed in some other research, and then I was laid up with the flu since.
I've now checked what other records I have and unfortunately I don't have any other information to add to what I've mentioned before. This particular Forrest family are unrelated to me and it's unlikely that I'll be looking at them again any time soon as I'm following up some new leads on my own direct Forrest family.
As a matter of interest, have any of the male Forrests in your line ever taken a DNA test?
Dave
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Dave:
Shame that there is not a connection. Never mind, diversity is important.
To my knowledge there is only one Forrest descendant in my tree, other than me in Australia. Neither of us has had a DNA test.
Good luck with you search
David
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Thanks,
Are you actually a Forrest then?
I recently did the DNA test with Ancestry.com and got some useful connections on both my paternal and maternal lines. I also transferred those resuts to FTDNA (free transfer) and paid an extra 20USD to upgrade to FTDNA's Family Finder - more results, not on Ancestry.
On FTDNA I joined the Forrest/Forrester project and have now linked to a couple of other Forrests with matching Y-DNA, one in Australia.
It's all this that is keeping me busy. The Y-DNA links suggest I have a common Ancestor with the other Forrests 500 years ago - the fun is trying to work out the connection.
It's something you might want to consider.
Dave