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Does anyone have a photo of Wardley Street Wandsworth. My Dad George Boyd lived there with my Nan, Edith Boyd nee Wright/Long, Grandad, George Boyd, my Gt.Grandoparent's James Long & Rose Long nee Wright.
Rose was James Long's 2nd Wife - their children were - Austin, Charles, Rhoda and Violet. James died in 1949, in Wandsworth, Rose in 1963 also in Wandsworth.
They all lived at 73 Wardley Street. James Long was a Greengrocer and had a horse and cart.
Any help will be greatfully appreciated.
Faith
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You might find an old photo at a local history centre, archive or library. Have you tried googling?
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Thanks for the reply.
I have been in contact with the local history centre and they have none. Perhaps I will keep badgering other places.
Thanks
Faith
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Have you tried http://www.francisfrith.com/wandsworth/ people are putting their recollections of having lived there in the past online.
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Thank you I will have a look on there.
Faith
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In a very truncated form Wardley Street, SW18, stil exists.
You can google street view and get an up to date photo of the street.
Many of the streets where my ancestors lived (Battersea) have also long disappeared or have been left in a very limited way.
But you can at least see what it looks like now.
UPDATE: Wardley Street and many others in this area were complete slums, I have photos of a street not too far away and you would certainly not want to live there now. A shopping centre would be a vast improvement. But in this instance it looks like the houses were demolished and the street shortened. There is a shopping centre at the other end of Garrett Lane!
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Looks like they plonked a shopping centre right on top of most of it. :(
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Thank you for that.
I will google and look on the map to see what is left of it.
A real pity, but that's how it goes.
Faith
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Hi
I haven't got any pictures of Waldley street but I can tell you what it was like.
I was burn in the next street in 1945 and I had a lot of cousins who lived in the waldley street.
My uncle who lived there was a street trader he had a horse and cart.
If you go on google eath you can look down the street which is now called Lydden road.
It is full of factories.
If you want to know any thing let me know.
Ray.
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Hi Ray - Thank you for your comments. I managed to find a photo of Wardley Street in the 1950's from London Metropolitan Archives in London. They also have a couple of Lydden Road/Grove if you were intersted.
I did manage to get to Wandsworth in September. A long trip for me from Norfolk but visited Wardley Cemetery for my Gt.Grandparent's graves on both sides of my Father's family, also Wardley Street but you can't get down it from the end near the pub.
Dad was George Boyd and he was born in 1932 in York Road Wandsworth. My Nan & Grandad wewre George Boyd & Edith Long. They lived at number 73 with my Gt.Grandparent's James Long and Rose Long nee Wright, alongside my Nan's Sister Violet Hall and her Husband Harry Hall with their Son Colin Hall.
On the photo I found you can see the Mission Hall half way down the street. If you are interested in it I would copy it for you.
I found a lady called Joyce Heath who used to also live in the same street but the other end I think, she is Colin's Cousin but from his Dad's side - not a blood relative to me. I have been told by Dad that there were a lot of gypsies down the end towards the river and would love to find anyone who has a photo of that.
My Nan & Grandad, alongside my Dad and his Sister Nita moved from Wandsworth in 1947 to a villaged called Bridgham in Norfolk. A long way from London and Dad was 15 and missed it terribly, but I suppose after the war everything was a mess and overcorwded with lliving arrangements.
Dad tells me his Grandfather wore a bowler hat and had a horse and cart and he would go out with him and skip school sometimes. I wish I could find someone that had a photo of him. I think he died in 1949 and my Gt.Grandmother Rose died in 1962.
Dad said there was a pub close by you would go out of the house turn and go down an alleyway to get to it and remembers the spitoon there. Sometimes his Grandfather would bring the horse in the house if it was cold and his Grandmother would create merry hell.
If you remember anything or have any photos I would love to know.
Thank you for getting in touch.
Best Wishes
Faith
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Hi Faith
I would be interested in seeing the photo's.
I lived in Lydden Grove until 1868.
The mission you are talking about was called the Anchor mission.
I don't remember any gypsies in the area.
They were never even spoke about.
My family name were Smith and Wymark
When going down Waldley street the house on the left used to have back yards that used to go over to the next street.
At the back they had sheds where they kept their horses. This was Lydden road.
In the middle of the road was a small pub which had sawdust on the floor.
I remember them getting the piano out in the road and having a sing song.
None of the people ever locked their doors.
Down the bottom of Waldley street a man used to stand at his front door and take bets on horses and dogs.
All the houses in Waldley street and Lydden road and Lydden Grove were all condemed in the early sixties.
Most of the people that died in the are are buried in Magdalin road Earlsfield.
It is hard work going to London as we nowlive near Skegness.
If you send me your e-mail address I will send you pictures from google eath of building thathave been there a long time
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Hi Ray - Thank you so much for all that info. My Dad's Sister mentioned the other week to me that the doors were always left open, and her Grandmother always left the key on a bit of string inside the door so if ayone came they would put their hand through the letter box to get the key, but that did not happen much as I said it was always open.
Dad also mentioned the sawdust on the pub floor, and said all the houses were back to back you went out your front door onto the street and the back was the same.
The building of the Anchor Mission is on the left of the photo I have. I had to get a magnifier out to see it thought because DAd could not remember the name.
If you give me your email address I will copy the photo and send it as an attachment for you, or if you don't have one I will copy and send it to you, if you like. I do like to share with others as I know how hard it is to find things, as Dad moved in 1947 he lost touch with everyone and they have all gone now anyway apart from his Cousins which he really did not know much about. My Nan was a good 10 years older than her Brother's so the people I have found are a good ten years younger than me.
I found a lady on Facebook and her Dad is my Dad's Cousin, and she gave me some information and said Grandad had a Sister called Edith and no-one knows anything about her as she moved. I told her I did because she was my Nan and so was able to fill them in with our family.
There were definitely gypsies at the bottom of Wardley Street, the archives told me that, Dad said there were and I met up with someone else that said a lot of the time people would not go down Wardley Street for the rent because of them. Maybe they had been moved on or away by the time you came into the world. Dad said you would just walk along and keep your hands in your pockets and not look at anyone. Do you remember the pubs name as that is the only thing Dad has forgotten? Amazing story of taking the piano out in the street - maybe that was because a lot of people could not go to the pub. Magdalen Road is where the cemetery is and as I said I went there a few months back, it is the biggest cemetery I have ever been to.
I was told by my Dad's Cousin Joyce Heath (I will find her maiden name out), that my Gt.Grandmother Rose Long and his Aunt Violet and Uncle Harry did not want to move as it was their home, but they did eventually and moved onto a housing estate close by. Not sure if it was a house or a flat.
When Dad moved to Norfolk in 1947 I think he got fed up as he left all his mates back in London and where they moved to did not even have running water, it was like the back of beyond he told me compared to where they had come from, so I am certain he got fed up and joined the Navy in 1949, so after then he said two years later he went back. Took a bus and got dropped off and stood for a few minutes looking down the street remembering it all. His Grandmother certainly made a fuss of him and his Aunt, a shame he never saw his Grandmother alive again, but thst's life.
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Well I will get to sending you this photo and speak soon.
Thank you so much for getting in touch.
Best Wishes
Faith
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Hi Faith
I come from round that way, I grew up there in the 50s. I never dared walk down Wardley St as a child, because the Wardley-ites were our sworn enemies. I remember having stone fights with them , they one side of the river Wandle, and we the other.
The Wandle was toxic, we never even dared put a hand or foot in it, it was running brown and stunk to high heaven.
When I was older(middle 60s) of course I went down that street, it was very sad by then, condemned and being cleared. Many moved to an estate, which now is called Haldane Place, Wandle Way and St James Drive.(present day map) It used to be called the Henry Prince Estate, and it was built just before WW2. It was notorious for villany, so I think in the 80s or 90s it was changed and given new names as are there now, in order to remove the stigma,(so I heard) which hung above the estate, although most people that lived there were working folk. The villains werent bad people either, they just had different ideas.
The flats were badly built and dripping with damp, which the council called "condensation" :o but they did have baths and indoor WCs, unlike the houses up Wardley St, Lydden Street, and Grove. most houses on Lydden and Wardley were being demolished and my only real memory was of desolation. Had folk living on Lydden Grove that didnt get knocked down(the houses are still there) in the mid 70s there were still people with the tin bath in the back yard, who were eventually rehoused and the old houses were renovated and sold.
before WW1(according to the old folk) Gypsies lived on land owned by Moses(or Noah) Penfold(I think it was moses, it was biblical anyway) They were door to door flower sellers and rag and bone men. The old property which I think was from the Penfolds, in the 60s was on the corner of Wardley St, up by the river. If i am correct the last of the houses on Lydden Grove, going toward Lydden Road, if you go sattelite, street view, you will see the last property has a large black gate, it used to be two wooden gates, and behind them was where the Totter(cant remember his name, but not Penfold) Kept his horse in a stable and his cart there, with all the scrap which he had collected.
That wil be the place where the Gypsies were, if Im not mistaken. They were gone before or during WW2.
Along side the Anchor Mission was an alley, at the end of the alley was a pub which they called Florries.
it is also mentioned on this site
http://www.bbc.co.uk/kent/have_your_say/community/romany_voices_archive40.shtml
The people that lived up Wardley St and on the Henry Prince were really great people, what we call the salt of the earth. They were not afraid to walk there, just outsiders were, why I don't quite know, I think like the tales told to me in childhood of never go down Wardley street, and others who were told not to go on the Henry Prince. If you wanted to find characters they were abundant in these two places, wonderful people.
mm
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Hi mm - Thank yo so much for replying to my request. I did manage to find a photo of Wardley Street at the London Metropolitan Archives had one. They also have ones of Lydden Road/Grove. It was taken in the 1950's obviously before the houses were demolished. My Dad was born in 1932 in York Road Wandsworth and left in 1947 with his parent's down to here in Norfolk, where I live.
A pity that Wardley Street had a bad name as I have heard from someone else that they also said they would not walk down that street and a lot of houses had no windows, hence the reason my Grandparent's moved out and the reason why.
I know my Gt.Grandparent's and Gt.Aunt & Uncle moved out to a new housing estate many years ago, but are all gone now.
I managed to find a lady called Joyce Hall who lived next door to my family and she moved out many years later. I also had an email from a Ray whose Mother and he lived in Lydden Road/Grove, the other day.
I have seen the picture also of the black gate against the property as someone sent me also that link.
Dad told me also that his Grandfather James Long was a rag and bone man, but on the Census it states he was a Coster of fruit and veg., so maybe he changed his profession.
Thank you so much for the name of the pub as Dad recalls that they went out of their house then there was an alley way then there was a pub but can't remember the name of it so thank you for that I will now be able to tell him, as I have been trying to find the name for a long time now.
I was pretty certain that the gypsies had moved on as Dad recalls them being there so he was told, but can't remember them exactly.
Yes salt of the earth I can relate to as my Aunt said her Grandmother always had the key on a piece of string inside the letter box and the door was very rarely locked.
Dad often tells me when he walked out he kept his hands in his pockets and kept looking straight ahead and not anywhere else, so that is probably why, because of gangs or other people and not being liked.
Sometimes it is a shame that certain streets had bad names but as you said salt of the earth and I know that my family were, just unfortunate in living in the wrong area.
Someone told me last week that the pub owners once brought the pianon out into the street so everyone could enjoy a sing song. I thought that was lovely.
If I find anything else out I will keep in touch.
Thank you again - Faith
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HI mm
my mum come from round that way,she grew up there in the 50s. my grandfather(Owen Hughes) was a rag and bone men an my great grandfather (William Hughes marred to Ellen smith) was a door to door flower sellers.
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Hi Shasha
Where did your ancestors live?? What is your mum looking for, living Boswells or ancestors. On this site we can only discuss people that are no longer alive, its to do with the data protection act. I suggest you click on the button on the top right hand corner of your post, the button that says MODIFY, and delete your mums name and her sisters and brothers names. or you might get into trouble. If you want to discuss living people you do that by personal message, then the rest of the world cant read it. for some strange reason your uncles name rings a bell, but so many years ago, very vaguely
welcome to roots chat, by the way.
mm
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thank you have done
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Great,
so you mentioned Boswell, what is it you are looking for, you will need to give the name of the great grandfather or something then we can see where they were living. Will need name and rough year of birth, and where they came from, or where they were living in the 1900s, then you can work back. ask your mum for details
mm
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my mum said her family live in Wardley Street she remembers there home was tin huts then my great grandfather (William Hughes was marred to Ellen smith) he was a door to door flower sellers. my grandfather(Owen Hughes) was a rag and bone men an he also work for the wands worth brewery my mum went to wandle primary school dont no how long my grandad live there my mum was there 1947/1954 also my mum said that her auntie lilly was attacked an murdered it was a big thing at the time my mum is try to help me with family tree
forgive me if im not doing this right an not making scene
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hi i was born in lydden grove and i still live there
. my family have over a hundred years of history in that road and wardley street. my family names are smith, heath and penfold. i have extensive knowledge about the area, one of my grandfathers was a horse dealer, and owned property in the area. the pub in wardley street was called florries, when one of ,my grandmothers used to get a jug of beer!. the yard with black steel gates now, were owned by the angelo family, who stabled horses in their yard. i did a small exhibition of wardley street in the wandsworth museum, and there are some pictures in the grosvenor pub of wardley street. please contact me if you need any help.
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Hi Faith
I have a photo of Wardley Street my cousins lived in Wardley Street and Lydden Road.
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Hi thank you for replying to my note on Wardley Street. My Gt.Grandparent's James Long & Rose Long nee Wright lived at 73 Wardley street. My Gt.Grandfather James Long was originally married to Louisa Lamb, and they had 3 or 4 kids I think, one of them was another James, Rebecca & ?. James Long brought my Nan Edith up as his own as my Gt.Grandmother Rose was not married but he was not her Father. Their children were Edith (my Nan), Charles Long, who was born bred lived and died in Wandsworth, Austin Long he wente to live in Coventry, Violet Long & Rhoda Long. Violet Long married Harry Hall and lived with my Gt.Grandparent's and had a Son Colin. Rhoda married a Manning and had two Son's by him called Alan & Raymond Manning. I did hear from a lady called Joyce Heath, and she lived either next door to number 73 or just up the road and her Dad and Violet Long's Husband Harry Hall were Brothers. Raymond Manning went off with Joyce's Mother and lived in Suffolk. They are both dead now, but I am in contact with Joyce as we have been helping each other through Ancestry.co.uk. Rhoda remarried William Blackman and think had two Daughter's.
I know my Nan & Grandad George & Edith Boyd and my Dad George and his Sister Nita moved out of London when the war started to Berkhamstedand then came back till 1947 then moved to Norfolk where I live.
Dad told me his Grandfather James Long had a horse and cart and he would skip school and go out with him fior the day and he always had a wad of money rolled up in the drawer and gave him £5 for his birthday. Dad was 15 when he was moved down to Norfolk and he hated it, so he joined the Navy two years later.
I have managed to find a photo of Wardley Street through the london metropolitan archives. It was taken in the late 1950's, if you are interested in it I will send it to you if you let me know your email address. I am still desperately trying to find a photo of my Gt.Gtandfather James Long, as it is my Dad's 80th in August anf I am trying to make a scrap book up for him, but no-one seems to have one of him.
I know my family especially my Nan and her Mum were always singing etc., and one day they brought the piano out of the pub into the street so everyone could enjoy it all. Dad said that most people would not walk down Wardley Street, but everyone who lived there knew each other and there was a real trust there between them all. Dad often went to the pub with his Grandfather and tehy had sawdust on the floor and a spitoon.
I would love to hear about your life and your family's life in Wardley Street etc., and any photos of your family if you are willing to share it would be fantastic.
My email address is *
Look forward to hearing from you.
Faith
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Hi Ray - I think we emailed each other a while back didn't we, and just got a message through Roots from you. I cannot remember your names of your family that lived in Wardley Street and wondered whether you would remind me of them. The picture of W.Street is probably the one I sent to you, not unless you have another one.
Look forward to hearing about the names etc.,
Faith
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Hi Faith
Yes I remember your name the family at 93 Wardley street
The family names was SMITH
Ray
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Hi Ray - Thank you for the name. It was 73 Wardley Street my family lived of Long/Boyd/Hall.
Faith
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Hello,
I am looking for knowledge on my Grandfather,who was born in Lydden Grove in August 1918,He was one of quite a few kids and his name was Arthur James Price.His mother was called Bertha.
I know he had a horse and cart and he also liked a bet.
He married Rebecca Stewart and they had seven kids.He met Bec over Henry Prince Estate.If anyone has any information on him or any of his sibblins (old stories) Some of the sibblins were called Beckley and not Price. I would love to hear from you.
Vicky. ???
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Hi Ray I think that I am you,re cousin. Here are a few details about myself, my grandmother was Edith smith, she married John Mclean, and had a son called John I am his daughter. My grandmother was one of about 11 children who came from wardley street. their father's name was Benjamen, and their mothers name was Caroline. she had a sister called rachael, who married dick wymark, and they eventually lived on the Aboyne estate, along with other family members. the names of my grans siblings were, John, henry, dickie, owen,nancy, pashy ruben, rachael at the moment I cannot rember the others. I know my aunt Pashy moved to sandy with the rest of her family. Ans I think that you are her son, and you lived over southfields when you got married. I would be interested in seeing the photo's you have, and i have got some photo's of the family that you might be interested in, that is if we are related!! Stephanie.
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Hi Stephanie
It was nice to hear from you. I am patience boy I only heard about your Dad
passing away 2 weeks ago.
I was very surprised Carol told me we have been in contact recently she has
been sending me pictures.
I put a family tree together if you would like this send me your e-mail address.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Ray.
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Hi my grand perants Owen Hughes an Nella Hughes (Smith) lived at 43 Lyddon grove 1943/1948 then moved to 7 Tonsley st Bungalows 1949/1951 then 8 Lemuel st 1953/1960 im trying to find family Owen Hughes brothers/sis Johnny /Lilly/Alice/Albert/Sam also family in gravesend if enyone can help id be very greatful :)
my grandfather was born in 60 wardley st his name was owen hughes his dad was william hughes an mum was hellen hughes (smith)his ant rachel baker married to william baker also lived in wardly st an his uncle owen hughes married lillie hughes an uncle henry married to sophia carey :)
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Hi Faith,
I have recently seen your request for information.
Before the houses in Wardley street were demolished due to slum clearance, I lived at number 75 next door to your relatives.
At the side of our house was a passageway connecting Wardley street to Lydden road.
The Charringtons public house in Lydden road was called the Prince of Wales,directly opposite the passageway. The pub was managed by Florrie a great personality and loved by her customers.
When entering Wardley street from Garrat lane, The Jolly Gardeners public house on the right and Gattos tool store on the left, the houses with odd numbers were on the left and even numbers on the right.The first houses on the left were occupied by the Lea household, of Romany descent and very beautiful people with wonderful complexions. Also further down the street on the right there was a closed in area
containing six or more Romany caravans(The original type drawn by horses).
beautifully decorated inside and out and owned by the Wrigley household.
Noah being the elder.
Halfway down the street on the righthand side was Wardley mission Hall occupied and ran by committed born again Christians, latterly The London City Mission Society.
In the area they were highly respected for there concern and assistance they were able to give the community. For an example each year they would take children on holiday from the area to the coast for two weeks at a small charge to the parents, and sometimes for no charge. The Hall was used regularly by the close nit community, children, young people and adults.
Further down the street on the lefthandside was Toms yard, this closed in area spread from Wardley street across to its entrance in Lydden road.
Within the yard there were stables for the traders horses , storage for horsedrawn carts and storage for articles for trading ie: Logs, Cutlogs, Kindling(Shortcut sticks of wood for firelighting), Horse Manure, graded by the amount of straw mix and sold by the Bushel for customers garden compost. Storage for fresh greengrocery and flowers bought and transported by horse and cart from The original Covent Garden. The street traders would leave home at two or three in the morning to get to market and buy there stock then return home, clean and dress their horses and carts for selling the produce that day.
During the process of every day life Horses had to be cared for groomed,and stables cleaned out and fresh straw laid. Corn and horsefeed bought and fresh water supplied. Carts had to be washed down, wheel unions greased,horse harness dubbinned and polished and horses hoofs blacked and horses curry combed for next day.
Further down on the righthandside of Wardley street opposite no 73,75, was another large yard owned by my relatives. This was also used for storing Vehicles for traders.
During a working week most people Flower sellers, Greengrocers, Totters, were out on the road either collecting scrap metal and old clobber or clothes with the call (Rag-iron-bone), or selling produce greengrocery etc.
At the end of the day some people would congregate in Florrie's pub and men and women would spend their days profits. Most evenings ended with a noisy raucous session of rows, fights and colourful slang shortened terminology.
With the approaching weekend Gambling and betting took place in Lydden road.
Groups of men would gather ten or twenty to a group, three or four groups stretched out ten or fifteen yards apart. transactions took place on the spin of two or three coins
being thrown or tossed in the air and the resultant heads or tails the winners.
betting also was achieved by playing cards: Blackjack,Pontoon, Poker,Brag.
Also men and children would play pitch and toss winner getting nearer the edge of the pavement that anyone else.
The police would never enter wardley street or Lydden road for fear of their own safety.If at anytime they sent a squad of police ,the groups of men would vanish into the rear gardens of the houses in Wardley street that backed onto Lydden road.
The houses also had stables for horses.
Some of the families that lived in the street were:Lea, Wrigley,Penfold brown, Smith, Hughes, Brooks, mathews,Wymark, Chambers,Owen,Goldsmith,Gilbert, Hilden, Cox, Etc.
My grandfather was Edward Penfold he was a greengrocer with his ownhorse and cart.
My Grandmother was a flower seller in picadilly circus.as were others in the street.
MY mother was louise penfold, married my Father Gus Oakes.
I knew your gran Rose, also Harry, Voilet, Rhoda,Colin, Raymond, Allen.
The family named mason lived next to them,and then brooks to them.
next door to my family lived the Gilberts also greengrocers.
Your family moved with my parents and a few more to Strathdon Drive Aboyne esate of Burntwood Lane Tooting london SW17.
Well I do hope this gives more information.
Best regards
Philip.
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Oh my goodness what a lovely amount of memories you have still remembered, and thank you so very much for all of that.
To have known my family is even better as there are not many, if any, even alive to remember now.
Dad will be 80 in August and I have been trying to get as much information and photos as I can to put into a book for him, and the one person I really, really wanted a photo of was his Grandfather James Long, as he says he can still remember him as if it were yeaterday with his bowler hat on.
His Grandmother Rose Long was very wild one day when his Grandfather brought the horse inside of the house, but Dad said he used to skip school and go out with him on the horse and cart. He remembers there being a yeard at the back somewhere where the horse was kept.
Dad also told me that the police would not walk down Wardley Street in fear of the people that lived there, and often the people would not want to go down the street to even collect the rent.
He said some of the houses had no glass in some of the windows, but I suspect that was because of the bombing.
Dad was born 15th August 1932 in York Road. I then found my Nan & Grandad Edith Long and George Boyd living in Garratt Lane for another 2 years, then I am not certain where they moved to although my Dad's Sister was born in Carshalton in 1936. Nan by this time she said had lost two babies, hence the four year gap.
When the war was starting Grandad George Boyd was not happy them keeping in Wandsworth, so they found a two bedroomed place in Berkhampstead next to his Sister and her family. Dad told me that his Wandsworth relatives came down to see them during the war but always stayed true to Wandsworth.
When my Nan & Grandad and Dad and his Sister came back to Wandsworth after the war, they had a house full.
His Auntie Violet and her Husband Harry Hall and their Son Colin, both my Gt.Grandparent's and my Grandparent's. I am not sure whether there were anymore people in the family.
I suppose as Dad said, when they came back, it was a disaster zone because of all the bombing, and my Nan & Grandad then decied to move to Norfolk in 1947, where I live.
Dad joined the Navy two years later as he said he hated Norfolk from being in Wandsworth, it must have been an awful big change for all of them.
I found a lady called Joyce Heath on Ancestry.co,.uk and her Father was Harry Hall's Brother and her Mother went off with Raymond Manning, Gt.Auntie Rhoda's Son. I since found out that Rhoda was married before, then she married William Blackman.
Joyce told me her Mother walked out and left her Dad and a large family. Both her Mother and Raymond are gone now and buried in Suffolk, where they went to live.
Someone told em that they pulled the piano out of the pub one day in the street so everyone could join in the fun, and as Dad said, "All the people in Wardley Street knew how to have a good time".
I met Auntie Violet and Rhoda a couple of times when I was little, as now and again our "London" relatives, as we called them, would come down for a weekend.
James Long died either in 1947 or 1949. I have his death certificate, so when they wanted to pull the houses down my Gt.Grandmother Rose went to live with Violet Harry & Colin on the estate you mentioned.
My Auntie Nita, Dad's Sister said her Grandmother always put the key on a piece of string inside the letter box and very rarely locked their doors anyway.
Can I ask you what age you are?
I managed to get a photo of Wardley Street from The London Metroplitan Archives and Dad remembered it instantly when I gave it to him, as you mentioned in detail of the passageway he remembers that also.
My Nan was always singing and dancing and am told that her Mother Rose was also the same.
I managed to trace a relative slightly younger than myself whose Dad is my Dad's Cousin, and her Grandfather was Charlie Long, as her Father is also. She sent me some photos of them, and if you are interested, if you let me have your email address I will send them to you.
I also have a photo of Raymond Manning, Rose Long and her Son Charlie Long that Joyce found for me.
Sometimes family don't always have photos but often neighbours do, and this was the case with Joyce having this photo.
There was something that Dad remembers as a child, his Grandfather opened a drawer and it was stashed with a wad full of notes, more notes he said than he had seen in his yuoung life, so there must have been money in rag and bone, etc.,
One one of the Census returns it states that James was a Coster/Green Grocer, as was his Son.
I also have a photo someone sent me the other week of a family callled the "Platt's". I am sure it is their name, and the photo is taken outside Wardley Street and their Son, who is a baby on someone's lap married one of James Long's Daughter's.
Thank you so much for all the information, as I said if you let me have your email address I will send you some photos.
Thanks again.
Faith
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I am trying desperately to find a photo of my Great Grandfather, James Long. James lived in Wardley Street Wandsworth for many many years with his first Wife Lousia Lamb and his second Wife (my Gt.Grandmother) Rose Wright/Long. They lived at number 73, but before that according to Census returns James lived at two other addresses in Wardley Street.
I have managed to trace a photo of Rose Long, but still not James Long.
Is there anyone out there that might remember his name or know of him or his family. James died either in 1945 or 1947.
Sometimes I often find that friends or neighbours often might have one and not the direct family.
I have a photo of Wardley Street where they lived but would be the icing on the cake as I am trying to get photos to put in a scrap book for my Dad's 80th in August.
Many thanks in advance.
Faith
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Hi Phillip
Thank you for what you wrote it brings back memories.
I am related to the Smith, Wymark, Mclean, and Kent.
In Wardley street and Lydden road.
There was a Henry Penfold in my class at school he would of been born about 1945 in wandsworth.
Is he any relation of yours.
Ray.
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A lot of my ancestors, the Plant family, lived in Wardley St. over 100 years ago. I've researched them and am setting out a list of the addresses below. They were always moving from house to house !
House No. Occupants Period (Roughly)
6 George Plant 1919
11 Elizabeth Rose Plant 1896
13 John & Mary Ann Plant born here in 1898
14 Kathleen Daisy Plant born here in 1898
26 Robert & Alice Vinney 1881
38 William John Plant 1894
52 Rebecca Long/Gess 1906
73 Rebecca Long/Gess 1906
95 William Gess 1906
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Thank you for supplying all that. Rebecca Long was one of James Long's Daughter's. James Long was my Gt.Grandfaither who married his second Wife Rose Wright, my Gt.Grandmother.
Faith
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Does anyone have any photos's of the "Long", family, my Gt.Grandfather James Long living at 73 Wardley Street. I have one of his second Wife Rose Wright, and some of their children but ot one of him.
Maybe a neighbour prehaps might have had one as is often the case.
Many thanks in advance.
Faith
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Does anyone have any photos's of the "Long", family, my Gt.Grandfather James Long living at 73 Wardley Street. I have one of his second Wife Rose Wright, and some of their children but ot one of him.
Maybe a neighbour prehaps might have had one as is often the case.
Many thanks in advance.
Faith
Hi Faith, we have exchaned emails before because I am looking for photos of Rebecca (Becky) and you kindly sent me a picture of Wardley Street. I will try to attach a picture of the street as it is now. I hope it works !
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Wandsworth Heritage Services have loads of pics up on Flickr, may be one in there
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wandsworthheritageservice/
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Hi Faith
I am a new member to this site but have been reading about Wardley street with interest.
I think we could be related.My name is Paul Terrington,I am 47 years old, My mother was Margaret Long who married and became a Terrington.Her father was Charlie Long mother Rose Long my nan and grandad.
I also remember Violet and Colin,they used to live on the Aboyne estate.Austin who we used to call uncle Austin I also remember. My dad knows alot about the old Wardley street as he grew up around it,he is 82 years old and knows the Penfolds,gumbles,Prices etc. His name is Brian Terrington. My Grandad Charlie Long used to build the horse carts for the totters to go out on their rounds on. He was a real craftsman and couldn't work to a drawing just done it by memory(so i have been told). As far as I was told his dad used to work at the candle factory and was known as waxy Long. My nan Rose Long used to work in the laundry and her and Charlie lived in Lydden Grove number 43 and the Hearns lived above.
My dad tells me he has some photos of his wedding and all the family are in it. I shall have to try and dig it out.
My dads dad my Grandad who i sadly never knew used to repair wireless radios and would often be seen in Wardley street his name was George Terrington.
My Dad still lives in Lydden Grove.
Thanks and hope this helps
Paul
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Hi Paul,
I have just read your message to Faith and I noticed you Knew the prices. My Grandad was born in lydden Grove and his name was Arthur Price.He was from a very big family. Unfortunatley he is no longer with us. He would of been about 93 now.He married Becky Stewart (My Nan) and they had seven children.and moved to Henry Prince Estate. If you or any of your family remember them, I would love to hear from you.
Many Thanks
Vicky
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Hi Vicky
Have spoken to my dad and he remembers Billy Price who was a greengrocer and we both knew Tommy Price,very fit man always out running despite his age. He had a daughter can't remember her name though. Also there was alot of Heaths living down that road and it was one of them where everyone knew each other.If i get anymore info i shall let you know.
Thanks
Paul
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Hi Paul,
Thanks to you and your dad for the info. My Auntie should be visiting my Grandads sister Daisy in the near future so Hopefuly I should find out a bit more about my family. Billy & Tommy were my
Grandads brothers, I can't remember all their names but I will find out more about my family and Lydden Grove. I just love hearing the old stories and what people used to get up to (not always good) but they looked after their own.
Thanks again Paul.
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Hi Faith,
Sorry for the delay in replying, have been sorting through some photograph's. The photo's relate to my family but also there are some of Rose Long and family.
I hope some of the photo's will be of help in your search, my grandson has made them available through this link: http://www.kilali.info/wardley_street.zip
This is a zip file with 12 photo's. Hope your grandad finds them useful.
Regards,
Phillip
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Hi Phillip/Faith
Phillip thanks for the photos very good don't recognize many but I think Violet is in one of them.
Faith I understand you are in contact with my cousin Ann Marie Long. Bumped into her mum and dad (my uncle and aunt) the other day,and discussed the forum on here. The yard at the end of what was then Wardley street into Lydden Grove/Road was owned by Angelos. They were a big family can't quite remember their names though.
Thanks
Paul
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Hi all im having a real problem trying to peice together my family from wardley st THE KENTS and THE MASONS my grannie was Queenie kent father GEORGE HENRY KENT he died in 1929 and i think her uncle brought her up can anyone help me please my grandad was Jack Mason
Thanks ;)
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Arthur Kent married Nancy Smith.
Henry Kent And Rose L Kent lived in Lydden Rd wandsworth are my cousins.
Ray.
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my husband freddie chambers grew up in wardley street, his family were chambers/penfolds, he has some great memories of his childhood, although very hard working life in those days. his grandfather was john penfold, and he had the woodyard and they chop logs and sell them for kindling. old mr gardener had the anchor mission and he remembers the train set he had in the upstairs of the mission. once a year a lorry would come down the st and cart them off to kent to the hoppicking fields, which were his happiest memories. florries pub, angelo's sweet shop. thy were all totters and hawkers in his family, but he remembers a lot of the folk who lived there
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more on wardley st. does anyone remember the townsends? jimmy morris? there was ruth and ted, and a man with a fantastic name, mannibal basset, he had a beautiful black horse and cart and he used to sell big plants to people who live in posh houses in london. freddie says him and his mates used to play by the wandle and throw stones over to the lemonade factory beyond. there was the pie and mash shop in garratt lane and his mum used to send him with a bowl to bring some back for tea. freddies mum used to make flowers and sell them, all hois family lived down wardley street, his grandfather and his uncle and aunts, penfolds, his great grandmother was called priscilla penfold, and she lived in a gipsy wagon at the turn of the 20th century, before he was born obviously but we have got paperwork from that era. it just fascinates me, i grew up in yorkshire, so i didnt ever see the original wardley st, only whats left of it now, but fred has told me stories of it all our married life. i love it.
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Hi Sasha Hughes I am June Hughes and married to Sammy Hughes, who father was Johnny Hughes brother of Owen Lilly Alice Albert Sam Hughes.
They have all passed away, Sam and I live in Tooting I am writing this as Sam cannot use a computer.
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Hi again from Sam and June Hughes sorry for miss spelling your name Sam does not know of any family in Gravesend as his dad did not tell him that he had relatives.
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Fascinating stuff! I have just started doing some family research and came across this thread.
My grandad, William Twyford (I believe his name was John William but the John part got ignored for some reason), lived at 27 Wardley Street and on 30/03/1902 he married my nan, Edith Flashman Long, who lived at 38 Wardley Street. On the same day my grandads sister, Caroline Twyford also from number 27, married James Slade who lived at 33 Lydden Road which is the next road along. Must have been some knees up with three families at the reception.
William and Edith Twyford then had children called Edith (Known as Edie), Helen (known as Nell), Thomas (my dad), Kathleen, Henry George, Arthur Frederick, Frederick, and Harry. Not all survived their childhood as was not uncommon in those days.
Sadly William was killed in 1914 at the Somme in France, and is buried in one of the well tended CWGC plots which I have visited. This left my nan to look after a load of kids in one of the poorest parts of London. No benefits then! You have to wonder how she managed. She was a lovely lady who lived until 1965.
I still have contact with some older cousins, and have fond memories of some of my dads siblings, my aunts and uncles. All were great people who looked after each other. Many ended up living on the other side of Garratt Lane in Atheldene Road.
I see from the other stories in this thread that the Long family would appear to have occupied several addresses down Wardley Street at the turn of the century, so guess we must be related by marriage.
I would love to hear how Wardley Street progressed throughout the later part of the 1900's until it was pretty well all demolished in the 60's. Did its 1900 reputation continue until then? I think that it could be described as a street with a bit of 'character' about it!
With regards to the local pubs, my older brother who was born in 1936, remembers the adults saying the were off to 'The Jollys' for a pint, and thinks there was a pub called 'The Jolly Waggoner' or similar nearby.
I must get over to Wandsworth and have a look at what's left. Probably all worth half a mllion each now!
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I grew up in Inman Road, two up from Atheldene, in the 1950's and had a friend whose Nan lived in Wardley St. So I found myself going down there on many occasions. It was still a scary place and as a 10 -12 year old I was in constant fear of being chased and beaten up by boys of similar age who we called "Wardleyites". I can remember horses and carts, flower sellers, rag and bone men, adults swearing and playing a gambling game involving tossing coins against a wall to see which one got the nearest. The pub your brother recalls was probably The Jolly Gardeners, not Waggoner, which is at the end of Lydden Grove and is still there. The pub at the end of Wardley St. is The Grosvenor Arms and is still there. Virtually all of the houses in Wardley St. have been knocked down now and the area is part of a trading estate which links in to Lydden St. and Bendon Valley. Houses in Atheldene and surrounding streets probably sell at about £800,000 now. Houses nearer Wandsworth Common go for £1m plus.
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i dont think there was ever any other street to compare with wardley st. yes it was a rag and bone and hawkers street, and did have a somewhat dodgy reputation, the family's kept horses, pigs and chickens in the back yards, but life was good, everybody knew everybody else and it was a good community, the hop picking came around every summer and they'd all decant to kent to go hop picking and fruit picking, my husband has so many stories to tell, i feel as if i grew up there, sadly the street was declared a slum area and demolished in the early 60's and the families were rehoused around south london, but the memories and stories have lived on, sadly there are hardly any of the people still alive who lived there, but maybe i'll write a book one of these days so the stories can be retold.
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Facing Wardley Street, on the other side of Garratt Lane was a row of shops. On the corner was a carpet shop, next to it was Sutton's - newsagents and tobacconists, then there was Hearn's the greengrocer. I think the owner was Bob Hearn and he had a son and daughter - Mark and Diane. Then next to that was a grocery store called Pickford's, I think. This was in the 1950's/early 60's. Does anyone remember those shops?
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Facing Wardley Street, on the other side of Garratt Lane was a row of shops. On the corner was a carpet shop, next to it was Sutton's - newsagents and tobacconists, then there was Hearn's the greengrocer. I think the owner was Bob Hearn and he had a son and daughter - Mark and Diane. Then next to that was a grocery store called Pickford's, I think. This was in the 1950's/early 60's. Does anyone remember those shops?
On reflection I think that the grocery shop was called Pickard's not Pickford's.
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I have found a photo of Wardley Street taken in the 1930's by the look of it.
Not sure how to post it though. Any advice welcome.
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Hi all,I have a photo of my grandfather Arthur Lewis woodley, out side "The prince of Wales " wardley st with a group of others, looks like there of on an outing. How can I share it ??
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click on photo email on your email page and then click on the paper clip icon and it should pick the photo you want to send, then just send as you would any other email. good luck
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Unfortunately I do not have a photo of Wardley St. The reason I am writing this is because I am a new member and Wardley St. triggered a childhood memory - I believe. I went to Littleton St P.H. School and was taken to and from school by ambulance (20 seater coach). One of the other pupils picked up was a boy named Noah Ridley and I feel certain he lived in Wardley St. Noah's mother had a beautiful singing voice which I seem to remember was presented on a radio programme. Wardley St. stuck in my memory because of its reputation as a rough area where policemen patrolled in pairs, similar to Larch and Zennor Rds in Balham where I lived.
I would be pleased to have my memory confirmed or denied, I know Wardley St. was at the Wandsworth end of Garrett Lane on the left going towards Wandsworth.
Regards Bobby
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hi my names Karen goddard and I was told my father lived down lydden grove but may of passed
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I came out of the henry prince estate. It was a rough place back the 60's when I was a teenager. We had a lot of travellers sited in Haldane place. Some of the nicest people I have known came off the site back then. The wads, the Wilson's tango, browns, and many more gypsy people. All good stuff. I miss those days still. The henry prince was a great place to live back then.
Happy
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In the late 1950's I used to be in the choir at St.John the Divine church which was right next to the Henry Prince Estate. The main reason for being in the choir was so that the vicar would allow us to attend the boys club on the corner of Bendon Valley. The Henry Prince Estate, Lydden Grove and Wardley Street were all pretty rough places in those days but we used to play all around there and I don't recall getting into into too much trouble. I knew a boy on the Estate. I think his name was Kenny Jeeves.
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Hello Philip,My Nan was moved from Wardley street to Aboyne Estate her Name was dolly Miles and her husband ernest or ernie Miles was a rag and bone man they had 2 daughters Doreen and Brenda.Dolly lived opposite Rose...Grandad drank in the prince of wales .He died of throat cancer in 1977...My dad was always horrible to my mum Doreen he used to tell her to 'get back to Wardley street where you belong' ,which is why I looked it up.He was always calling her a gypsy.I remember she did used to teach me gypsy language when he was out! lol! she said she was a Romany and always loved the 'Penfolds' :)
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Here is a very old photo taken in Wardley Street. I have no idea when exactly. It was in my Nan's possession when she died. She was born Rose Plant at 11 Wardley Street in 1896.
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Hi dragoman I'd love to see the picture outside the Prince of Wales I bet my grandad is there! xx ;)
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Dragonman Maybe your Nan Rose was my Nans neighbour when they got moved to aboyne estate!!
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My mum got my ears pierced in garratt lane when I was 2 that makes it 54 years ago! of course I never forgot the pain was awful! Mum used to teach me a song from wardley street...'Mandy gel in the woods to lel a bit of crack,up come a gavver to lel poor Mandy acray.Witch Chavvy,Roman Chavvy .Job him in the mooey!(punch him in the face!)' :o There was a fishmongers too and everyday when we went to visit my Nan who was rehoused in aboyne estate my mum bought me a huge whelk instead of sweets and i put the shells along my windowsill when we got back home to Galesbury road up( Earlsfield road) awful council flat in those days!
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Here is a photo of Wardley Street as it is now. Only a few of the original houses remain - on the left hand side. The Grosvenor Arms is still there though.
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Hello
Im looking to see if there is anyone that would remember my dads family they are from wardley streey my great grandmother was called Caroline smith she had quite a few children can't remember all there names but my grandad was dickie smith hes brothers were Henry,owen, billy and rueben and sisters were Edith,Nancy and pashy . Just looked threw the older posts and I'm sure i may be related to lydengrove and r Haworth.
Jolene
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Dragonman Maybe your Nan Rose was my Nans neighbour when they got moved to aboyne estate!!
Hi Anne, my Nan didn't move to Aboyne. She married Walter Nunn from Battersea on the 22nd April 1916 at St. Mark's Church, Battersea Rise and they moved to 8 Dingwall Road, Wandsworth where most of their children, including my Mum, Mary, were born. The house was badly bombed in WW2 and then they moved round the corner to 46 Wilna Road. My Nan lived there all her life until she died in April 1979.
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Hi I'm new to this I'm interested in your chat bout wardley street my husbands family came from there my husband grandfather HENRY GUMBLE who passed away few years now if anyone has any story's or photos they would like to share I'd b very grateful thank u xxx
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Here is another old photo of Wardley Street. I would guess that it was taken in the 1930's.
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Hi
I was wondering if anybody can remember the Smith family who lived at 24 Wardley Street in 1911.
There was Benjamin, Minnie and their daughter Blanche. Blanche later moved to 36 Lydden Road and married James Bennett.
Any help or ideas welcome.
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Hi Jolene
I remember all the smith family
R Haworth
I was wondering if anybody can remember the Smith family who lived at 24 Wardley Street in 1911.
There was Benjamin, Minnie and their daughter Blanche. Blanche later moved to 36 Lydden Road and married James Bennett.
Any help or ideas welcome.
Hello
Im looking to see if there is anyone that would remember my dads family they are from wardley streey my great grandmother was called Caroline smith she had quite a few children can't remember all there names but my grandad was dickie smith hes brothers were Henry,owen, billy and rueben and sisters were Edith,Nancy and pashy . Just looked threw the older posts and I'm sure i may be related to lydengrove and r Haworth.
Jolene
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Hi I'm new to this I'm interested in your chat bout wardley street my husbands family came from there my husband grandfather HENRY GUMBLE who passed away few years now if anyone has any story's or photos they would like to share I'd b very grateful thank u xxx
I went to school with Henry Gumble at the end of the 1950 to 60s
Ray
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Hi Faith
I would be interested in seeing the photo's.
I lived in Lydden Grove until 1868.
The mission you are talking about was called the Anchor mission.
I don't remember any gypsies in the area.
They were never even spoke about.
My family name were Smith and Wymark
When going down Waldley street the house on the left used to have back yards that used to go over to the next street.
At the back they had sheds where they kept their horses. This was Lydden road.
In the middle of the road was a small pub which had sawdust on the floor.
I remember them getting the piano out in the road and having a sing song.
None of the people ever locked their doors.
Down the bottom of Waldley street a man used to stand at his front door and take bets on horses and dogs.
All the houses in Waldley street and Lydden road and Lydden Grove were all condemed in the early sixties.
Most of the people that died in the are are buried in Magdalin road Earlsfield.
If you send me your e-mail address I will send you pictures from google eath of building thathave been there a long time
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MasonbIake ....I think we're related. Your grandad Jack was my grandads bother ....I'am Wally Masons grandson.
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Hi I'm new to this I'm interested in your chat bout wardley street my husbands family came from there my husband grandfather HENRY GUMBLE who passed away few years now if anyone has any story's or photos they would like to share I'd b very grateful thank u xxx
I went to school with Henry Gumble at the end of the 1950 to 60s
Ray
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Hi I'm new to this I'm interested in your chat bout wardley street my husbands family came from there my husband grandfather HENRY GUMBLE who passed away few years now if anyone has any story's or photos they would like to share I'd b very grateful thank u xxx
I went to school with Henry Gumble at the end of the 1950 to 60s
Ray
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Dear Philip,
I had my Mum and Aunt with me today and we thought we would look up Wardley street.
They are the Lee family who lived in the first house on the left, your description of them made their day and they are still very beautiful with lovely complexions.( yes these genes did pass on to me, Ha!) You brought back many lovely memories for them, thank you.
Warm regards
Caroline
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Hi Everyone,
My Great Grandfather was James Long from his first wife Louisa Long. If anyone has any photos of him or his family I would very much appreciate contact with you. Any other information about Wardley street and it's residents would be lovely too.
Many Thanks
Claire
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Hello
I’m looking for any information about the Harman family who lived at no 9. My grandfather was Thomas Harman and he was killed in 1945. His dad was called Henry and he had many siblings, including Liz and Amy. I saw the photo of no 11! Most of our family now live in Devin but would be great to know if anyone still lives around there.
Many thanks
Helen
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I just saw Masonblack68 post.
Sidney F Kent, son of Frederick Kent was married to my Nan's ( Sarah Ann Hall, nee Planson) sister, Louisa Mary Ann Planson.
I am interested in any information etc. on the Planson or Hall family.
Joyce ( nee Hall)
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Hi, I wrote a reply to you, but it went to the end of the thread, so you may not have seen. It says that Sidney F Kent, son of Frederick, married my Nan's sister, Louisa(e) Mary Ann Planson. My Nan was Sarah Ann Hall (nee Planson) My Nan and Grandad Joseph Hall lived in Lydden Grove, next to the sweetshop, Angelos, when I lived in Wardley Street. I think we lived there for about 4/5 years then moved when I was 8/9yrs old. But I remember a lot, which surprised me!! I have not been able to track down my Great Great Grandfather, Pierre (Peter) Francois (Frank) Planson after 1870. His children were Emile Albert Planson and Sophia Henrietta De Marco or Di Marco
(nee Planson). Anyone remembers hearing those names, please reply.
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Hi, was just wondering if anybody remembers or knows any information about the Bright or Taylor family.. My grandfather was born in 1940 in wardley street .. Pretty sure he said he was born in a trailer.. My grandfathers grandmothers name was Amy Taylor he's fathers name was George Fredrick bright.. I don't no he's mothers name and I'm trying to build my family tree so any help would be appreciated my grandfather also had a sister called Rita..
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I lived at 31wardly street from 1949 -1959 my
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Hi All, I am a descendant of the Brooks family that lived on Wardley st, I have done a lot of research and believe my ancestors lived there quite a while before my grandfather (Henry 'rocky' Brooks) moved round the corner to Lydden grove, does anyone remember the Brooks and any memories/information on them? Would love to hear if so.. :-)
Marian x
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Hi Marian my sister Elsie married a wiliam brooks.sadly Elsie died in 2018.william died on the 25 of december2019.my family went to his funeral on January 31.the wake was held in the Grover arms at the top of wardley street. The brooks were a large family and when wardley street was declared slum area the brooks moved to the aboyn estate near tooting.i moved from London in 1957 I have fond memories of the time I lived with Elsie and William/bill as i knew him.if I can help with anything else.please get in touch.eric
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Hi,
I have some old photographs of Wardley Street that I can’t seem to upload. If anyone is interested I’ll try and find a way to get them to you.
Xx
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Yes please I would love to see them if possible.eric
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Welcome to Eric and korner. You can exchange e-mail addresses by private message. Just click on the circle under your name - the one with the image of a page of writing - and you can exchange messages (no attachments allowed).
Good luck :)
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Yes please I would love to see them if possible.eric
Eric my Mum remembers you. I have sent you a message. X
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Hi everyone,
I'm trying to find out some information about the Cain family, who lived in Wandsworth in the Wardley Street/Lydden Grove/Lydden Road area from at least 1901 - 1930. I hope the name might be familiar to someone, as my family have lived in the area for several generations and some of the family still do.
I know for sure that George Cain (my great grandfather) lived at 69 Wardley Street in 1901, with George (his father) Esther (mother), and siblings Esther Ann, William, Elizabeth, Frederick, Walter, John. As of 1919 he was living at 58 Lydden Grove with his brother John and sister Esther Ann, who was then married to George Marshall.
Thanks.
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Hi, I am looking for information about my maternal grandmother Georgina Mattey and her family. My grandmother was born in 1920 and they lived at 86 Wardley Street. Her father was George Mattey and her mother Bridget Mattey (Nee Carney) and she had a sister Kathleen (Kit) who was born in 1912). My grandmother evidently worked at The Primrose Laundry in Bendon Valley. In October 1945 she married my grandfather Harry (Henry) Mason (born 1923) who at that time lived at 21 Lydden Grove. My grandfather's parents were Walter Mason and Emma Mason (Nee Pritchard) and he had many brothers and sisters. I think one of his sisters married into the Gumble family whom I believe lived in the same street as him. As much as I love the facts - dates etc, it is the stories I have been reading in this thread I would love to know the most! My dad, David Mason, passed away in 2002 and I wish I had of asked him more about the stories! I believe my grandparents moved to Russell Pickering House after my dad was born and sadly my grandmother passed away in 1963 leaving my grandfather to bring up 4 children on his own! Anyway, any information anyone has - even if it doesn't include the family and just more stories of the area I would be truly grateful! Once lockdown is over I hope to visit Magdalene Cemetery as I believe a great deal of family are buried there! Thank you, I look forward to hearing from anyone! :)
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Hi all im having a real problem trying to peice together my family from wardley st THE KENTS and THE MASONS my grannie was Queenie kent father GEORGE HENRY KENT he died in 1929 and i think her uncle brought her up can anyone help me please my grandad was Jack Mason
Thanks ;)
I believe your Grandfather Jack was the brother of my Grandfather Henry (Harry)! My dads name was David Mason!
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Hi Marian my sister Elsie married a wiliam brooks.sadly Elsie died in 2018.william died on the 25 of december2019.my family went to his funeral on January 31.the wake was held in the Grover arms at the top of wardley street. The brooks were a large family and when wardley street was declared slum area the brooks moved to the aboyn estate near tooting.i moved from London in 1957 I have fond memories of the time I lived with Elsie and William/bill as i knew him.if I can help with anything else.please get in touch.eric
hi Eric my mum was Annie Curtis and we lived at 31Wardley street the same time as you Elsie and uncle John. One of my earliest memories as a kid is of you sitting at my Nans table drinking a cup of tea in your army uniform on leave. regards Tony
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Hi I remember you.were you living up stairs with your mum Annie and George’ left wardley street in1958 on leaving the army. Where did you go when you left.did you go to the abounds estate near tooting.my dad and sister with her husband lived in the flats on the aboyn estate l have photos you might like to see.are you on the internet kind regards eric
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Hi Eric . We moved to tooting , my Nan moved to the aboyne estate. Later on I lived in Australia and still have children living there and have visited many times , I live in kent by the coast now . Would love to see the photos I’ll send you my email address. Stay safe x
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Thanks will send photos via your email address stay safe eric
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I wonder if anyone has any photos/information about the Bassett family. They were travelling hawkers/horse dealers from Sussex who travelled to and settled in Battersea, Donovan's Yard around 1890. My great grandfather was William Bassett and he married Gentilia Beeney.
My grandfather was Job Bassett and he married Ellen Bolton. In 1911 they were living at 74 Wardley St together with Moses and Annie Penfold and John and Annie Chandler, I think they had 8 children together. Ellen died in 1919 and Job moved to Kennington with my great grandmother Julia Stevens around 1922, they had three children. My dad being the second, Job died when my dad was two years old and he had no contact with his fathers side of the family and had never even seen a photo of his dad. I have managed to find out quite a bit about the family through Ancestry etc but would love to see a photo of Job or any of his family.
My grandmother Julia lived with her parents Frederick and Hannah Stevens at 87 Wardley Street and her parents continued to live there for the rest of their lives, Frederick died in 1945. Julia was previously married to Henry Marke and had four children with him. We also don't know anything about what happened to them and although my dad knew about them I don't think he ever actually met them.
I was very interested to read a post on here about Manibula Basset - I am wondering if he was my great uncle Emmanual. I know that my grandad had a fruit and flower stall/shop and the Beeneys were horse dealers.
I'd be grateful for any recollections, comments, photos or help.
Many thanks :)
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I loved reading your post, and although I can't add any information to what you already know, I will get in touch if I find any photos or more details. I am still researching Wardley Street's history, and on 22nd October this year (2022) a blue plaque will be unveiled at Wardley Street in commemoration of the history and people of Wardley Street. I am attaching a press realease about the event. Best wishes, Anna
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Hi AJD.
Job Bassett was my great great uncle (my great grandmother was his sister, Charity). I suspect - through Ancestry hints - that we have the same information! You probably know that William and Gentilly moved to Wardley Street around 1906, no. 93, where Gentilly died. Her parents, Absolom and Letitia appear to have stayed outside London (Surrey/Kent); ditto his parents (Sussex). I'm intrigued to know how they met!
Do get in touch though if you are missing any of this information, and we can see what we have, hopefully we can share quite a bit.
As Anna says, there's a blue plaque being unveiled this Saturday in Wardley Street - which should be a really good event.
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Thank you Anna and Tony for your replies. I've only just seen them so unfortunately missed the event but I will look out for forthcoming events and check out the walks which Geoff Simmons organises. Tony I think we have spoken before and shared information on Ancestry which was very helpful and interesting. I'm afraid I haven't got any further in my search for a photo of my Grandfather - Job or the Bassetts, and sadly I think I have to accept that I probably won't ever know what he looked liked as time goes by and less people are around who might have photos. Do let me know if you make any further discoveries. Good luck & Best wishes, Annie
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Hi everyone. :)
Was doing some digging and found that my great-grandfather Harry Hilton was born & raised at 32 Wardley St in 1895. He moved away later (teens/early 20s) but it seems as though some of the family still stuck around the area. Does anyone know of the Hiltons in the road or have a picture that includes the house?
The history is a bit jumbled but it could be assumed that they were a Traveller family. The only other info I could find were a couple of 'Hilton' graves in Wandsworth cemetery but they don't trace back to anyone I recognise for certain.
Many thanks!
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Hi,does anyone know/remember the Cox Family, Jimmy,Sheila,Doris, Charlie & Johnny,their Mother's name was Annie Cox.
Jimmy Married Shirley Bottom,her Mother used to live in Garrat Lane.
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Hi June Hughes,is Sam the Son of John & Lottie(Charlotte) Hughes,is Billy Ward Sam's Cousin/ relation ?
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Hi,does anyone know/remember the Cox Family, Jimmy,Sheila,Doris, Charlie & Johnny,their Mother's name was Annie Cox.
Jimmy Married Shirley Bottom,her Mother used to live in Garrat Lane.
I have the full family tree on both sides of parents. Annie Cox (nee Notely) and Charles Henry Cox