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Title: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: nvb272 on Tuesday 26 April 11 13:36 BST (UK)
My gt grandfather was born in East Benhar in 1885, was this a village ? or an area , i'm trying to find it's location.
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: maidmarianoops on Tuesday 26 April 11 14:01 BST (UK)
http://www.murrayofstanhope.com/petermurrayblackburn.htm

east benhar




sylvia
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: maidmarianoops on Tuesday 26 April 11 14:05 BST (UK)
W Benhar Rd, Harthill, Shotts, North Lanarkshire ML7, UK
Benhar Rd, Shotts, North Lanarkshire ML7, UK
Benhar Pl, Glasgow, Glasgow City G33 3, UK


google maps
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: Forfarian on Tuesday 26 April 11 19:40 BST (UK)
My gt grandfather was born in East Benhar in 1885, was this a village ? or an area , i'm trying to find its location.

You can find East Benhar marked on some older maps at http://maps.nls.uk/index.html - choose Series Maps of Scotland, then Six-inch to the mile 1st Edition, and zoom in until you find Fauldhouse. East Benhar was about a mile north-north-west of Fauldhouse.

It looks as if any buildings there have gone and the area has been mostly planted with trees
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NS9161
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 26 April 11 20:27 BST (UK)
Just a little bit more to what has been added already. Was your g grandfather born into a coal mining family. There is a refence here to a Wester and Easter Benhar www.scottishmining.co.uk/403.html.

Monica  :)

Added: Photo here of Castle Row, East Benhar www.wlfhs.org.uk/fauld8.htm
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: katlady2106 on Sunday 27 November 11 18:36 GMT (UK)
My Grandmother was born in East Benhur. You can find it on an ordenance survey map but it is basically a field.
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 27 November 11 18:54 GMT (UK)
Hi katlady2106

Welcome to RootsChat  :)

Monica
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: big nanook on Thursday 08 December 11 22:35 GMT (UK)
hi  ! indeed east benhar was real  but alas no longer it is a couple of miles from where i am sitting it is in the middle of the moors but it is quite easy for anyone to find as the ground still bears the mark of the houses a miners row about a mile east of pedens stone and i will tell you more if you want to contact me as i am blind i think it would be best if you emailed me as i find this site not very good for blind people who use screen readers so i will work out out how to get my email to you.  i know person  who is  still alive who was born there  i will try and help or put you in touch with the area history group  as i am part of another group but know members for that area
terry
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: Forfarian on Friday 20 January 12 00:37 GMT (UK)
I took a trip in that direction last week, and went up to where the colliery was at East Benhar. I don't think I would describe it as a field. The whole area is uneven where holes were dug and heaps of spoil dumped. It certainly hasn't been cultivated since the coal mines closed, apart from some plantations of trees. If it were not for the rough grasses and self-seeded trees, it would look like a waste land. There's a prominent bing (spoil heap) which I climbed to admire a superb panoramic view to Edinburgh in the east, the Pentland Hills to the south, Duntilland to the north-west and Cairnpapple Hill and the Knock above Bathgate in the north-east.

There are various ruins around the foot of the bing but they are all built of brick, so they're not original houses. I expect all those have long gone. The land is wet, acid and boggy, and being on the top of Fauldhouse Moor it is pretty exposed. It would not have been an easy place to make a living from farming, and impossible of course once they started coal mining.

Unfortunately I spent too much time on top of that bing and didn't have time to look at West Benhar as well.

Some photographs at http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NS9161 and http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NS9162
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: big nanook on Friday 20 January 12 20:41 GMT (UK)
that bing was an iron stone mine known as balbalkie bing  and is in lanarkshire as the county boundry is the fauldhose road to the east!  and east and east benhan if i remember correctly is a little bit to the south and on the west side of bing is the remains of pit workings and buildings and the old railway line is in between the bing and east benhar. the only person i can think of who was born and grew up in east benhar and is still living is an miss (*) whom i last heard of was in redmill nursing home or tippethill nursing home in whitburn but if she is ok she could tell lots
terry and g d usher

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Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: Forfarian on Friday 20 January 12 22:57 GMT (UK)
Thanks, Terry. I have been poring over the old Ordnance Survey maps of the area to see what was where, and I have to admit to finding it very confusing because of all the changes there have been. I was also a bit nervous of rambling all over the place because the maps show pits and shafts, and it would be easy to fall into one hidden in the long grass.

I have some connections of my own in Benhar. William McGuire (1845-1906), coal miner, married Elizabeth Barrie Storry (1853-1924) and some of their children were born at 5 West Benhar and others at 70 Benhar Colliery Houses.  Another relative, Edward Meldrum, was a director of Benhar Coal Company, and yet another, Agnes Waddell, married Alexander Neilson at Benhar in 1847.
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: canham55 on Monday 27 August 12 19:24 BST (UK)
This is really was a village a couple of miles out of Fauldhouse. There was an open cast mine there and I recall many deep lakes which may have been entrances /shafts?
Continue on thi sroad and you arrive at Harthill. Without chencking the map, this is close to teheA/M8?
My grandfather worked there as did some of his family/children.
My mother does have a book which is available in bookshops. Within this book is a picture of a row of cottages which had small back yards where miners would wash down when home.
I'm currently tryinng to track down a photo of my grandfather - currently there are none in the family.
Surname Hutchison.
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: canham55 on Monday 27 August 12 19:28 BST (UK)
Saw you wre reseaching the name BLACK. That's my grandmother's maiden name. She diod live at East Benhar and then moved to Fauldhouse.
Any links?
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: nvb272 on Monday 27 August 12 20:08 BST (UK)
My great grandfather was called Mitchell Ramsay McGinlay born 1885 father was Richard McGinlay.
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: alisonbcd on Saturday 15 September 12 02:59 BST (UK)
The website posted 'murray of stanhope' has my grandparents and uncle listed. My grandfather was Peter Murray born 1903 in East Benhar, my grandmother was Alison Murray, nee Gray, and their son (one of nine children) was Joshua Murray.
Alison (Canada)
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: Skoosh on Saturday 15 September 12 10:13 BST (UK)
Murray of Stanhope, the traitor who turned Kings Evidence, by any chance?

Skoosh.
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 15 September 12 10:26 BST (UK)
Hi Skoosh

I don't think Alison is making a reference or connection to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Murray_of_Broughton. Undoubtedly, from the website as linked early in this post by Sylvia, www.murrayofstanhope.com/index.htm this John has his place  ::)

Monica
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: alisonbcd on Saturday 15 September 12 19:37 BST (UK)
I don't know Skoosh whether my Murray of Stanhope connection was a traitor. I'll look into it and let you know.
Cheers, Alison
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: alisonbcd on Saturday 15 September 12 19:41 BST (UK)
You're correct Skoosh, there does seem to be a connection to the traitor. I shall have to read further on this subject.
Cheers, Alison
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: Skoosh on Sunday 16 September 12 10:18 BST (UK)
Adds a bit of colour to the tree Alison!

Skoosh.
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 16 September 12 13:04 BST (UK)
Sorry, Skoosh  :P...I too should have read on.... ;)

Monica
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: Skoosh on Sunday 16 September 12 14:13 BST (UK)
Cheers Monica, a colourful character Murray, and much reviled. Doubtless he had his reasons, but an interesting addition to a anybody's tree. I'd draw the line at Irma Grese though.
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: alisonbcd on Sunday 16 September 12 15:30 BST (UK)
Hi Skoosh and Monica, Evidently we don't get to choose who our ancestors were or what they did. As you say, Skoosh, adds a little colour to the tree!!
Have a great day, Alison
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: neil mcivor on Monday 28 July 14 17:52 BST (UK)
My grandfather worked there and there were cottages, he was a member of shotts mission church, then they moved harthill pentecostal, they then moved to balbairdie pit in Bathgate and he then became a crane driver at bathgate steel works, Jim McIvor was his name, he died of silicosis.  I go there a lot to climb the bing, there's east benhar and west benhar. Somebody wrote on this post there's a book with pictures of the cottages and people, where can you get a copy of the book? thank you.
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: carlineric on Tuesday 29 July 14 10:12 BST (UK)
West Lothian Council's Local History Library published a booklet on called "The Lost Village of East Benhar". You could try contacting them on  01506 282491 or email  sybil.cavanagh@westlothian.gov.uk to obtain a copy. There is an interesting report on the condition of the housing on the Scottish Mining website and there is a little on Canmore.

Eric
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: SANMIS on Friday 19 February 16 21:40 GMT (UK)
This is a real place, and contrary to a post that an elderly 'Miss' in a home is the only person alive from there, my mother was born there and is still alive.  The whole community was moved down into Fauldhouse into council houses before the Second World War.
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: deebel on Sunday 21 February 16 23:41 GMT (UK)
Lanarkshire Sheet IX.SE (includes: Shotts; Whitburn)
Publication date: 1899   Date revised: 1897

On this OS Sheet
Title: Re: East Benhar-is this an actual village?
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 22 February 16 09:29 GMT (UK)
Lanarkshire Sheet IX.SE (includes: Shotts; Whitburn)
Publication date: 1899   Date revised: 1897

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=15&lat=55.8381&lon=-3.7274&layers=6

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