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Title: Townhead school, Montrose
Post by: urbsintacta on Saturday 30 April 11 22:34 BST (UK)
My grandfather would have attended this school in the 1880's. It was situated almost on the site occupied by the present St Margaret's. I wonder if anyone would have a photo of the old School or knows anything about it.

Title: Re:Townhead school, Montrose
Post by: ev on Sunday 01 May 11 14:55 BST (UK)
hi  :)

would that also be known as the north links school ?

http://www.montrosesociety.co.uk/Past%20And%20Present.pdf

see page 31

ev
Title: Re: Townhead School, Montrose
Post by: urbsintacta on Sunday 01 May 11 16:14 BST (UK)
Hi Ev

My apologies. My request should have been for Townhead School.At the 1871 census the present North Esk Road area was known as Townhead and the school was situated almost exactly where St Margaret's School now stands in Blackfriars Street. I had had a very good look at St Margaret's while in Montrose in July 2010, and the latter building could very well be the old Townhead school  - but I have my doubts. Hence my query.

Thank you so much for the PDF of Montrose: Past and Present. It really adds to my store of knowledge. Unfortunately the North Links School is NOT the North End school.

I'm going to start another thread with the subject, Townhead School.

i have modified the heading to townhead school - ev
Title: Re: Townhead school, Montrose
Post by: ev on Sunday 01 May 11 16:37 BST (UK)
yes , i did see townhead school on an old map(national library of scotland)

http://maps.nls.uk/townplans/view/?sid=74416142&mid=montrose

modern map -

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=371500&y=757500&z=120&sv=montrose&st=3&tl=Map+of+Montrose,+Angus+[City/Town/Village]&searchp=ids.srf&mapp=map.srf

ev
Title: Re: Townhead school, Montrose
Post by: luciacw on Sunday 01 May 11 22:36 BST (UK)
I thought the St Margaret's building was the building used by the Townhead School. That's what I know from people here in Montrose anyway. I will try and find out for you.

- Lucia
Title: Re: Townhead school, Montrose
Post by: luciacw on Monday 02 May 11 11:25 BST (UK)
I have a book about Montrose which contains an old photo of Townhead School boys 1903-04, although you cannot see much of the building in it. Would you like to see it anyway?

EDIT: Just recently had a look at St Margaret's School and the building there is very similar to the one in the photograph.

- Lucia
Title: Re: Townhead school, Montrose
Post by: urbsintacta on Tuesday 03 May 11 18:13 BST (UK)
Yes, please. Send on a scan of the picture.
Title: Re: Townhead school, Montrose
Post by: luciacw on Wednesday 04 May 11 12:11 BST (UK)
Here goes. Unfortunately cannot see very much of the building in this except to get quite a vague idea of what it looks like but I thought this would interest you nonetheless. I'll be on the lookout for more photographs. This picture is from a book called Montrose: Its People (2004).

- Lucia
Title: Re: Townhead school, Montrose
Post by: luciacw on Wednesday 04 May 11 16:25 BST (UK)
Looking in the library earlier and a book indicates that the building where St Margaret's School is now is the same as the one which was the Townhead School. I'm thinking this is quite a reliable source (a local history book). Sorry for all of the confusion. I will let you know if I find any more pictures of the school.

- Lucia
Title: Re: Townhead school, Montrose
Post by: urbsintacta on Thursday 05 May 11 00:09 BST (UK)
Thanks again. I felt that the present St Margaret's building was a good bet to be the old Townhead School. That was from looking at the architecture and the materials used for the building - dressed stonework (red sandstone) etc., and I attach a photo that I took of the school in July 2010.

On looking through my Montrose collection I found that I actually have the photo you sent me (schoolboys 1903/04). More photos are very welcome of course.

I must say that all the people who replied to my thread have been more than generous of their time. Thank you all again. You are only confirming the high opinion I had formed of Montrose people.
Title: Re: Townhead school, Montrose
Post by: luciacw on Friday 06 May 11 02:03 BST (UK)
Thanks again. I felt that the present St Margaret's building was a good bet to be the old Townhead School. That was from looking at the architecture and the materials used for the building - dressed stonework (red sandstone) etc., and I attach a photo that I took of the school in July 2010.

On looking through my Montrose collection I found that I actually have the photo you sent me (schoolboys 1903/04). More photos are very welcome of course.

I must say that all the people who replied to my thread have been more than generous of their time. Thank you all again. You are only confirming the high opinion I had formed of Montrose people.

Good to be of help in some small way. It would be great if we could get a photo of the school from the time your grandfather was there. The school looks good in your photo. I've realised recently that I never stop often enough to admire the buildings in Montrose.

Lucia
Title: Re: Townhead school, Montrose
Post by: bluerover on Wednesday 08 August 12 14:21 BST (UK)
I have been looking at the Townhead area of Montrose and my Neill ancestors are recorded as living there in 1871, next to the Brown Horse Inn. Jessie Neill, who married James
Smith, was my Great grandmother. I have lost touch with my Scottish relatives and have no pictures of them, so I was fascinated to see the picture of Ann Birse Smith, who would have been my grandfather's (another James) young sister. How brilliant to be able to share this. Thank you. :)
Title: Re: Townhead school, Montrose
Post by: urbsintacta on Wednesday 08 August 12 23:22 BST (UK)
Hi bluerover

I sent you a private message but I thought I'd send a public post as well. We share a great-grand mother - Jessie Niell. If you'd like I'd love to correspond with you so that we could share information about the Niell and Smith families. I have been researching my family's history since 1998 and have a detailed family tree including lots of photographs.

Let me know and maybe we could arrange to correspond privately.
Title: Re: Townhead school, Montrose
Post by: bluerover on Thursday 09 August 12 18:23 BST (UK)
Hi urbsintacta

I am new to Rootsweb and I understand I will not be able to respond to Personal messages until I have made three postings. Once I have made another one I will get back to you. (I don't have any photos of the school to share - photos from my last visit to Montrose seem to have been mainly of the Football Club!)

Bluerover
Title: townhead infants, montrose
Post by: Sally Cundall on Thursday 20 July 17 10:51 BST (UK)
To the lady who was asking about Townhead infants, I have a copy of a school register for North Links school from 1912 if you would like I can look up your relative, I cannot seem to locate your post now.
My mother was 5 when she went to Townhead School and 7 when she went onto North Links until she left, age 14.

My mother went to Townhead Infants Montrose from 1910 to 1912. She then went to North Links School Montrose from 1912 to 1919.
Title: Re: Townhead school, Montrose
Post by: ev on Thursday 20 July 17 15:56 BST (UK)
Hi Sally , welcome to RC :)

Is this the thread you are looking for ?



ev
Title: Re: Townhead school, Montrose
Post by: Sally Cundall on Thursday 20 July 17 16:32 BST (UK)
My mother went to Townhead Infants from 1910-1912 then onto North Links School in 1912, until she left 1919 aged 14.
I have a cop of a school register for North Links from 1912. If anyone would like me to look up any relatives names for that time, just let me know.
I think it was 1987 when North Links was pulled down to make way for housing for the elderly.
Title: Re:Townhead school, Montrose
Post by: Citizen Smith on Thursday 20 July 17 16:58 BST (UK)
hi  :)

would that also be known as the north links school ?

http://www.montrosesociety.co.uk/Past%20And%20Present.pdf

see page 31

ev

Thanks Ev for posting this.
My 3xGt Grandfather, Michael Allen, was proprietor of The Black Horse inn from the late 1860s to early 1880s. He moved there after he retired from his job as gamekeeper at Inglismaldie estate. He would have lived in the older building as I believe it burned down after his tenure (not during!).
Have you any idea of the date of the older photo on Page 25?
Sarah
Title: Re: Townhead school, Montrose
Post by: ev on Thursday 20 July 17 17:25 BST (UK)
Hi Sarah ,

Not sure about the date , William R Jack veterinary  surgeon was 52 in 1881.
R S Batchelor auctioneer & land surveyor was 45 in 1881.



ev
Title: Re: Townhead school, Montrose
Post by: Citizen Smith on Thursday 20 July 17 17:53 BST (UK)
Hi Sarah ,

Not sure about the date , William R Jack veterinary  surgeon was 52 in 1881.
R S Batchelor auctioneer & land surveyor was 45 in 1881.



ev

Thanks Ev, that's useful. I wonder if they took over from Michael or if there was another reason for that photograph.

Sarah