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Family History Documents and Artefacts => Graveyards and Gravestones => Topic started by: Malmackenzie on Saturday 18 June 11 14:31 BST (UK)
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Will some kind person point me in the right direction. Looking for grave AS 495. Spent 3 days looking for gravestone of family member with no luck. Able to locate the AS area on map and have searched it. Found AS 500 & AS 494. Is there a map available with grave location. Looks like there is no grave stone and would like to put one on but need to locate the site. Any help welcomed. Regards Malcolm MAckenzie
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Hi
I would contact the cemetery itself and ask them, also you would probably need to ask them who has the rights to the grave as you may need their permission to erect a grave stone.
Andy
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Thanx Andy, this is all new to me. There is no warden at the Ford, so think I will have to get in touch with Liverpool county council and seek advice
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Hi
Ford Cemetery is a Catholic Cemetery and may not be the responsibility of the council,
I would ring the Catholic Archdiocese on the number on the link below
http://www.liverpoolhome.com/Merseyside_Cemeteries/catholic_archdiocese_of_liverpool_cemeteries.htm
Andy
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Ford Cemetery does have a webiste, which is so confusing to use that I gave up and I know that I have some relatives there!
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Will some kind person point me in the right direction. Looking for grave AS 495. Spent 3 days looking for gravestone of family member with no luck. Able to locate the AS area on map and have searched it. Found AS 500 & AS 494. Is there a map available with grave location. Looks like there is no grave stone and would like to put one on but need to locate the site. Any help welcomed. Regards Malcolm MAckenzie
If you live on Merseyside, visit a gravestone and monumental mason showroom, preferably one in Litherland or Seaforth, and ask them for guidance. They probably have a detailed site plan of the cemetery.
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Will some kind person point me in the right direction. Looking for grave AS 495. Spent 3 days looking for gravestone of family member with no luck. Able to locate the AS area on map and have searched it. Found AS 500 & AS 494. Is there a map available with grave location. Looks like there is no grave stone and would like to put one on but need to locate the site. Any help welcomed. Regards Malcolm MAckenzie
Ask any staff at the cemetery for guidance and directions.
Second option: Some headstones may have the section/plot number marked in small letters on the back of the stone. Look on the stones nearby for their plot number and you may be able to deduce from that where your As 495 actually is.
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I went in search of my grandmothers grave at Ford, this was about 4 years ago.
Outside (at the time) was a notice board with a phone number. I think it is manned Mon-Fri.
I called them they gave me lots of information about the grave including the names of people I had no idea were buried alongside my nanny.
If you call them they may be able to advise when a groundsman or member of staff will be on the site.
My own nan was also buried in AS, it took us a while too, in parts there appeared to be a pattern but in others it was quite random.
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Hello,
this may be of help:-
Contact Name: Sandra Brennan.
E-mail address: s.brennan@rcaol.co.uk
Sandra is in the Ford Cemetry office and may be able to check the record for you. If there is no Memorial and you wish to erect one then you must determine who is the owner of the grave or burial plot. This may not be so difficult as it sounds if you are an only surviving relative of the deceased. To erect a new memorial you will have to obtain a 'Right of Burial' form from the cemetery, complete it and pay £100:00 as a 'cemetery fee'.
Have just been and going through the exercise myself.
Hope this helps,
Best of Luck
13/9/2011
just to add, everything went well, help from S.Brennan & M.Gornall at cemetery office was excellent and stonemasons able to erect replecement stone without any problem. Hope all goes well for you.
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Hi, here is a plan of Ford: http://www.fordcemetery.co.uk/plan.htm
It seems like Section AS is on the right as you enter the graveyard. It is not a public area but like you suggest may not have a headstone.
I presume this may be the contact number for above, this is the Roman Catholic Cemeteries Board no: 0151 522 1017, who may be able to help.
a note: do not pay for accessing any records as ringing the number above you can find out information for free.
Hope this helps,
hsu29
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Hello
I'm aware this is a little old but I wonder if someone could please help. I'm about to visit Liverpool and Ford where my relative is buried (Peter Dougherty 1800-1870). I've got the maps now (many thanks for posting these) but is anyone able to clarify the grave number as I can't make out if its 'S.l' or 'L.l' or indeed something else?
And if there are any other tips, hints or updates on searching the graves at Ford?
thanks
Denis
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Hi Denis, from looking at the grave map sections, the nearest that looks like it is: JL. Also looking at it if it was an S then it would be more curved at the end instead of straight. A slight comparison can be made with the J on John. Thats what i'd be inclined to go with.
If you haven't searched for graves before its helpful to note that the sections and numbers are marked (generally) on the back of the stones. Sometimes on the sides. Some dont include them. The plot numbers go up in numbers along the rows of the section they are in so you are able to track the headstone - or if one is missing, almost the exact spot your ancestor is buried as a patch of grass between headstones.
public graves are different but the maps suggest it is a private section.
As to finding the sections, its helpful to get your barings from the main entrance using the map & follow the paths around. the grave numbers will tell you the section you are in if you are stuck.
I hope that helps & is the sort of information you are after.
Good luck in finding Peter this time.
Susanne
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Hi. My brother and I were able to visit Ford last week and search for Peters grave. Thanks to your help Susanne we were able to find what we thought was the plot but with no headstone, so we looked further afield. We came across a memorial to those whose graves are unmarked, so we returned to what we thought was the site of his grave which was in the middle of a number of large memorial stones for priests and nuns who were buried there. On looking at the record we saw that Peter was buried with fourteen others, mainly children and assumed then this 'space' must be a paupers grave. However, on another link its suggests that Ford cemetery had no paupers graves? Would be interested in any ideas on this?
Sad to think that Peter travelled the world (Portugal, Australia, India) fighting for King and country (with the 63rd Regiment) and ended up in a paupers grave. Many thanks
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There are no Paupers' graves at Ford Cemetery. Public graves are sometimes thought to be Paupers' graves because a number of people not related to each other are buried in the same plot. Interments in Public graves are paid for by the family or friends of the deceased but they do not own the plot. There is no shame or sadness connected to Public graves it was a very common form of burial in the old days. It's only in more recent times that people have thought it important to have a family plot and gravestone.
Blue
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Hi, Just found your post, hope this helps.
If you look on the back of some headstones (not all), they have plot numbers and are usually in rows of 10.
So if you stand looking at the back of the headstones, the nearest may say (for example) 'AE420' with another 9 plots in front. Then step left, 'AE430' with 9 plots in front, step left ' AE440' and so on.
As I said not all have plot numbers on, so a little detective work will usually locate the missing grave.
There you go, clear as mud......
Good luck
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I have spoken with a company that make and erect cemetery headstones and I was informed that the centre of each grave is 46 inches apart. That would mean that in section AS the centre of grave 494 would only be 46 inches form the middle of grave 495 hope that might help.
Tom P
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hi does anybody know.... some of my relatives are buried in ford cemetery and I have the image of the grave but when I type their names to search for burial records etc nothing comes up? I am so confused