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Title: Blagge of Car Colystn Lineage
Post by: Graceofblagge on Wednesday 03 August 11 16:18 BST (UK)
I am researching my great-great grandfather, Francis Blagge who had 4 children 3 boys 1 girl with his stepdaughter Anne Elizabeth Rogers while married to Anne's mother Mary Rogers. We were told by family members that Francis was a member of the R.C.O.S., but have found info that a man of the same name at Car Colston monument same name and member R.C.O.S.. My father's name was Thomas Blagge Rogers, his father Walter Irving Rogers, his grandfather Thomas Blagge-forgot to add-Rogers of England b 1848 in Lincolnshire.

link: http://southwellchurches.nottingham.ac.uk/carcolston/hmonumnt.php

link:http://southwellchurches.nottingham.ac.uk/carcolston/hmonumnt.php
Title: Re: Blagge of Car Colystn Lineage
Post by: Glen in Tinsel Kni on Saturday 13 August 11 11:16 BST (UK)
I haven't looked deeply at the Blagg family but one of my relatives married into the family, although much of the info is based on the census at present;

Generation 1
 
1. Thomas Blagg was born ABT 1803 in Car Colston, Notts and died 1876. He married Grace Goulson 18 Feb 1833 in Car Colston, Notts. She was born 1812 in Knipton, Leicestershire and died Mar 1898 in Car Colston, Notts, daughter of Page Goulson and Dorothy Sampey. 

  Other events in the life of Thomas Blagg
Burial: 1876 in Name Thomas BLAGG Date 30 Aug 1876 Aged 74 Place South Collingham Description All Saints 
 
 
Children of Thomas Blagg and Grace Goulson:
   i.         Mary Blagg was born 1834 in Car Colston, Notts
   ii.         Rebecca Blagg was born ABT 1835 in Car Colston, Notts
   iii.         Thomas Blagg was born ABT 1837 in Car Colston, Notts
   iv.         Henry Blagg was born ABT 1839 in Car Colston, Notts
   v.    2.    Page Blagg was born ABT 1841 in Car Colston, Notts
   vi.         Francis Blagg was born 1843 in Car Colston, Notts
   vii.         Grace Blagg was born 1845 in Car Colston, Notts and died 1883 in Collingham, Nottinghamshire
   viii.         Robert Blagg was born 1846 in Car Colston, Notts
   ix.         Edward Blagg was born 1848 in Car Colston, Notts
   x.         Sarah Blagg was born 1850 in Car Colston, Notts
   xi.         Unknown Blagg was born 1855 in Langford, Notts
   xii.         Arthur Blagg was born 1858 in Langford, Notts
 

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Generation 2
 
2. Page Blagg was born ABT 1841 in Car Colston, Notts. He married Augusta Howsin 1873 in Newark District. 




I also have some headstone images from the church at Collingham and a couple of images of the church at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/50125734@N06/sets/72157624085752292/

If this is the same family i'd be interested to hear from you, the Goulson family in the area had surgeons amongst the occupations.
Title: Re: Blagge of Car Colystn Lineage
Post by: Graceofblagge on Saturday 13 August 11 21:49 BST (UK)
My father's name was Thomas Blagg Rogers, his father was Walter Irving Rogers, his grandfather was Thomas Blagg Rogers b 1848 in South Leverton Lincolnshire died 1930 in Deptford, New Jersey USA. His father was Francis Blagg, b 1802 d1860 East Retford Nottinghamshire. We have no other information available on Francis Blagg. Thomas Blagg Rogers (of England)- his mother was Ann(e) Elizabeth Rogers b1824 North Leverton,Nottinghanshire d 1862.  Francis Blagg was married to Ann(e) Elizabeth's mother Catherine Sharp Rogers b 1796 d 1872-her first husband was Thomas Rogers b 1794 d 1833.There were 4 illegitimate children from this liason; Thomas Blagg Rogers, who later emigrated to the US and was a veterinarian, Elizabeth M., Walter Vincent, and John James.

I believe Francis Blagg was from the Retford area, he had a large home in Rockley near Retford. Any of this help?





Title: Re: Blagge of Car Colystn Lineage
Post by: Glen in Tinsel Kni on Sunday 14 August 11 10:30 BST (UK)
It doesn't look like there is a direct link between the two family groups, maybe they are linked through earlier generations but I haven't gone backwards on the Blagg line (my interest being the Goulson family, researched back to the late 1600's).

There are a couple of Goulson family born in the 1870's-1880's in the Retford district but that family group eventually finished up in Lincoln.
Title: Re: Blagge of Car Colystn Lineage
Post by: Valgenie on Saturday 14 April 12 17:20 BST (UK)
Hello,

I came across your enquiry while researching an incident in North Leverton connected to Francis Blagg, surgeon. if you would be interested, let me know.

Valerie
Title: Re: Blagge of Car Colystn Lineage
Post by: Graceofblagge on Saturday 14 April 12 22:09 BST (UK)
Hi Valerie,

Yes, very much interested. Thank you!

Grace
Title: Re: Blagge of Car Colystn Lineage
Post by: larkspur on Monday 16 April 12 17:35 BST (UK)
Marriage South Leverton Francis Blagg and Elizabeth Rogers 29-8-1833
Baptisms S Leverton
Mary Ann dau of Francis & Elizabeth 24-5-1834
Francis son of francis & Elizabeth 19-3-1836
There are 8 baptisms at Car Colston with Parents Francis and Mary Blagg, Francis is a surgeon.
A marriage at Car Colston Francis Blagg and Mary Abbott 23-1-1803
Title: Re: Blagge of Car Colystn Lineage
Post by: Valgenie on Monday 16 April 12 20:49 BST (UK)
Grace,

I am investigating my own family (Hibbert) who lived in North Leverton, and was actually in the Nottinghamshire Record office when I came across the story of a Sarah Drake. She was accused of the murder of a small child whose body was shipped to North Leverton.  Francis Blagg was the medical examiner to whom E. Smith (County Constable) brought the body, and later appeared as a witness.  Incidentally both North and South Leverton are in Nottinghamshire (not Lincolnshire) and as you might expect, the villages are side by side.
I am writing a story about this, and as Francis Blagg was named, I decided to do a bit of research into the characters involved.  The accused was actually at one time a servant to Francis Blagg.  (Source ...newspaper).  When I examined the census, I notice the odd relationship of the Rogers children living with Mr. Blagg.  Now, you have explained all that.
I see that Francis died young.  On the census he is listed as a member of RCOS , but I will do some more work looking for proof of that.  I believe his father had the same name. 
On the census and in the paper the E was not on the end of Blagg, but as you may well know that is really of no matter.  if you are interested, I will tell you more of what happened to Sarah, but I realise the Blagg's are your main interest.  My g.g.g. grandfather lived down the road from the Burton family, to whom the body of the child was sent.

Valerie
Title: Re: Blagge of Car Colystn Lineage
Post by: larkspur on Tuesday 17 April 12 10:00 BST (UK)
Have you seen the 1851 census for South Leverton?
Francis Blagg age 43 born Car Colston occ MRCLL general practitioner.
Ann E Rogers daughter 24 housekeeper N Leverton
Thomas Rogers son 2
E Matilda Rogers dau 2 months.

Burial South Leverton
16-3-1860 Francis Blagg age 51 notes Chas. S Burnaby Coroner 13-3-1860
The Nottingham Guardian thurs March 22nd 1860
Fatal Accident to surgeon
Francis Blagg surgeon of South Leverton--his father and grandfather both in the same trade, both died accidently, the former drowned in the Trent and the latter died from taking snuff without washing his hands after a surgical procedure...
Francis seems to have been on a pub crawl on horseback, he was known to ride too fast, it appears he collided with a gate post and died instantly, the coroners verdict was accidently killed by fall from a horse.
Title: Re: Blagge of Car Colystn Lineage
Post by: Graceofblagge on Wednesday 18 April 12 01:08 BST (UK)
Oh Ladies Thank you a thousand times!!!!!!! This is fantastic information, and confirms what we had heard that Francis Blagg died in a riding accident. To think the paper mentioned my g-grandfather Thomas. Sounds like this Dr Blagg was not the best man, but certainly a human one.

My sister and I thank you again!!!

Grace
Title: Re: Blagge of Car Colystn Lineage
Post by: Valgenie on Wednesday 18 April 12 15:45 BST (UK)
Hello Grace,

Are you a member of British newspapers online? If so, you can get the article about Francis Blagg's ride, but if not, I will be happy to send it to you by an e-mail attachment. Isn't RootsChat great, last year I was helped by several people in Australia and went on to meet my mother's half brother.  It is a tremendous forum!

Valerie
Title: Re: Blagge of Car Colystn Lineage
Post by: Graceofblagge on Wednesday 18 April 12 18:26 BST (UK)
It is a fantastic website; it's overwhelming that so many strangers will help do research. Had to be quite an experience to meet your half brother.
Title: Re: Blagge of Car Colystn Lineage
Post by: Graceofblagge on Wednesday 18 April 12 18:28 BST (UK)
Valerie,
 Not a member of any newspapers, if you could email it to me I'd be grateful.

Grace

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Title: Re: Blagge of Car Colystn Lineage
Post by: Valgenie on Wednesday 18 April 12 22:29 BST (UK)
Mailed it to you 5.30 pm EST
or 10.30PM BST

V
Title: Re: Blagge of Car Colystn Lineage
Post by: Graceofblagge on Thursday 19 April 12 13:18 BST (UK)
Received it, thank you. Amazing article-seems to try to be kind in recounting someone who drank heavily and rode too fast-I guess the equivelent of today's DUI-driving under the influence. My father also drank too much, and it was a blessing that our old car was just too slow. Getting an ale while still on horseback, seems almost comical now.

Thank you, that fills in alot of the blanks. His son Thomas Blagg Rogers lived to be an old man here in the US, became a veterinarian. One of his sons  (my grandfather) died very young, likely from leukemia.

Grace
Title: Re: Blagge of Car Colystn Lineage
Post by: NikkiGriff on Thursday 06 September 12 12:56 BST (UK)
I am new to this site and not even sure if I am allowed to jump on like this. I live in Australia and have been recently looking in to my paternal roots. The connection between Blagg and Rogers plus some very interesting stories that the previous postings seem to match. Both names were included in my father's middle names which included Francis. I know his mother is a Rogers so just trying to fit where it all fits.
Title: Re: Blagge of Car Colystn Lineage
Post by: Valgenie on Thursday 06 September 12 15:02 BST (UK)
Like all family history research, you MUST start with yourself and work backwards. If you knew your father's mother was a Rogers, you will need her birth cert. to prove it. Then go from there backwards. Yes, you can jump on a comment to an existing message, that's how we can sometimes help each other. 
Any reference to Francis + Blagg+Rogers seems to indicate you might link up with the Blagg's mentioned here.  But you need to prove it!!!
Welcome to the wonderful world of Rootschat Forum, it can be very helpful!!
Title: Re: Blagge of Car Colystn Lineage
Post by: Glen in Tinsel Kni on Saturday 18 July 15 22:57 BST (UK)
Somehow I missed the replies after my post, fascinating stuff as always from the old newspapers.