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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Tipperary => Topic started by: Paul Peter on Monday 29 August 11 13:22 BST (UK)
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Hi
How do I found out who is buried in a grave in St Patrick's cemetery. I have been told that there are more in the grave than is listed on the headstone but not sure who they are?
thanks Paul
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Clonmel Borough Council keeps records of everyone buried in St. Patrick's Cemetery. 20 years ago I wrote a letter to the Town Clerk and got a reply so try e-mail or snail mail.
This may be of interest
http://www.clonmelgraveyards.com/index.php/st-pats-cemetery
Which Drohan are you researching in Ck on Suir by the way?
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Hi Mick
many thanks for the response. I will try that. It is my grandparents grave and I have details of the names on the headstone but I l know there are 3 others buried there who are not on the headstone and I need some details of dates etc to get birth or death certificates.
My grandfather's brother was Frank Drohan. My great grandfather James Drohan moved from Carrick On Suir to Clonmel when Frank was about 7 in 1878. James's father was David Drohan and I believe that he was a brother of Patrick Drohan the coachbuilder. James started a coach building business in Irishtown in Clonmel when he moved there.
thanks again
Paul
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A friend of mine is the great-grandson of Edward Drohan from Carrick who was killed at Gallipoli in August 1915. I'm not sure if your Drohans and his are connected though.
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Hi Mick
there were 4 family of Drohan's in Carrick on the 1799 census. If he is related to the coach builders of Carrick, Patrick Drohan and family then he would be. Philip Drohan was Patrick's father and he only died in 1906 aged 101 !!
Contacted the Clonmel Borough Council and got an answer in 24 hours - brillant. Gave me details of an aunt who dies aged 7 in 1933 and the fact that she had a disability. Had heard rumours of this but could never find out any detail . Never been able to find details of her birth or death on the family search website or the rootsireland site. Now that I have exact date have sent off to Roscommon for cert. Would they have been able to bury her without registering it first as I have another uncle who is buried there having died age 2 and again can't find him on any website ?
Paul
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Just heard back from the GRO - no trace of her birth or death certificate ! Have drawn a blank on this now - how would they have been able to bury her without a death certificate ? Different times I suppose. Is there anywhere else I can look for details. I do know that she was not raised in the family home - was there a home in Clonmel or nearby where children with disability were placed ?
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Have you tried the local registrar's office?
And the children would definitely have been baptised so you could try getting baptismal certificates.
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I see you're reaearching the Butlers of Dungarvan. One of my uncles married a Josie Butler from Dungarvan. They lived in London. He died in 1992 and is buried in Kilgobnet.
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Dear Paul,
I recently spent 4 weeks working solidly on the Drohan family tree of Carrick on Suir. My primary interest is the Davin family - as you would know Philip Drohan married Mary Davin. I have built up quite a large tree that I would like to share with you. I don't have very much on the branch you appear to be researching though so it would be great to compare notes. I hope to hear from you. Joanne
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just a note to say there are still Drohans living in upper Irishtown, Clonmel opposite where the old Coach works were, I believe they are of the same family.
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Death certificates are not required at time of burial.
Death certs are required for legal purposes ie Disposal & distribution of Assets (property)
It can take a week to get death Certificate.
Post Mortem and coroners report may cause delay for sudden or unexpected deaths.
Is it possible that the children who died young were registered with different first names ?
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I was wondering...is this the Catholic Cemetery in Carrick on Suir?
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The cemeteries I know of in Carrick are The Friary and St Mollerans, both in Carrickbeg. There is also the New Cemetery, Faugheen and Churchtown. There is probably others but these come to mind off the top of my head. Joanne
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I think my father is buried in one of the cemeteries there. How can I find out?
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I'm not sure, but I don't think there is burial records. Do you have his death certificate or registration. Depending on when it was it may be on irishgenealogy.ie. It should tell you where he died. Also sometime the obituaries say where they are to be buried. It may be in the munster express if there was one. If you give me a name and a year if you have it, I'm happy to search the irish newspaper archives for you.
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His name is JOHN F MURRAY 28/09/1914 - 13/07/1986. I am told he died in Dublin. I applied for his death certificate at Rosscommon and they can't find it. I am not even certain he is in the family grave in Carrick. Maybe his name is just a memorial on the headstone and maybe the date is incorrect? I was brought up in care and have been searching for my father for most of my life. Thanks for looking...it is much appreciated!!
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buried at St Mary's cemetery. There is an obituary in the Munster Express. I've taken a copy if I can email it to you.
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You should be able to pm me your email address.
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Thank you so very much for this information. I am very grateful :)
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http://www.clonmelgraveyards.com/
Burials in St. Patrick's Cemetery, Clonmel are available at the link above. Some records from other cemeteries in the area also.