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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Moray (Elginshire) => Topic started by: mariahswind on Sunday 11 September 11 02:11 BST (UK)
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I am researching Jane Simpson b: 28 Jun 1789 & cr 30 Jun 1789 Urquhart, Moray, daughter of John Simpson and Margaret Duncan. I have in my notes that John was of Mossland, Urquhart.
Jane was second wife of James Matthew, they married 7 Jul 1814 in Elgin, Moray. His first wife was Jean Christie.
Jane Simpson Matthew died 3 Apr 1861 in Elgin, Moray.
Their children John and Jean Matthew migrated to Toronto, Canada. John married Christina Morrison and Jean married John Dunn. I descend from John and Christina.
I would like to know more about the Simpson family from this area and hopefully find out more about John Simpson and Margaret Duncan and thier parents.
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Have you tried doing a search on the free Libindx site which gives masses of information about people from Moray?
Graham.
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I've sent you a personal message (PM) because I have been in touch with a descendant of Jane's brother James.
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Have you tried doing a search on the free Libindx site which gives masses of information about people from Moray?
Thank you.
I found 2 John Simpsons christened in Urqhart, one in 1764 the other in 1755. I am leaning towards him being the older one, son of John Simpson and Isabel Maver. The younger one's mother was Agnes and John and Margaret didn't use Agnes as one of their 13 children's names. But their first daughter is named Isobel. She is living with Margaret in 1841 at Moss of Meft. Margaret is 80, Isobel 55 and younger son William 35.
There are Shand's living at Moss of Melf too. I mention this because I believe Margaret is the daughter of Alexander Duncan and Barbara Shand. Margaret and John use both Alexander and Barbara for two of thier children's names.
Too bad the marriage records are so scant for both Urquhart and Speymouth for this period.
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Hi ,
Just seen this post, don't know anything about Jane, but do have the Simpson's in my tree your John and Margaret are about as far back as I can go don't have anything prior to that. do have Jane's siblings though Jane is listed as Jean in my tree , but definitely the same person
Let me know if you are interested
Are you by any chance a member of Genes Reunited then it would be easy to let you look at my tree
Regards
Jim
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Jim,
Hi! Yes I am interested and I do have a Genes Reunited account... just don't have my tree on there.
I will inbox you my email address.
Kind regards,
Shanan
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I found 2 John Simpsons christened in Urqhart, one in 1764 the other in 1755. I am leaning towards him being the older one, son of John Simpson and Isabel Maver. The younger one's mother was Agnes and John and Margaret didn't use Agnes as one of their 13 children's names. But their first daughter is named Isobel. She is living with Margaret in 1841 at Moss of Meft. Margaret is 80, Isobel 55 and younger son William 35.
I think you are probably on the right lines here, because my wife was a Maver by maiden name and I have traced her family back. They lived at Upper Mest. There were definitely Mavers in Mest at that time, in Overmest and Uppermest anyway and at various neighbouring farms. But it is Mest not Meft... that was how they used to write "s" back then!
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But it is Mest not Meft... that was how they used to write "s" back then!
I didn't even think of the Meft being Mest because of the s/f confusion. I have only seen the f instead of s when there is another s. Thank you for mentioning this.
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But it is Mest not Meft... that was how they used to write "s" back then!
Absolutely not. It is genuinely Meft with an f not a long s.
See the map at http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ2663 or try the Royal Mail Post Code Finder http://www.royalmail.com/postcode-finder/ if you want confirmation.
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thank you for clearing this up... like I said I have only seen f as an s when there is a second s in the word.
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Whoops, that's what I get for listening to an old guy who had lived there!
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Whoops, that's what I get for listening to an old guy who had lived there!
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Interesting. I'll go and ask around when I am passing (it's only 5 or 6 miles from where I live, and I once viewed and almost bought a house there before common sense prevailed - it has vast acres of lawn which would have taken ages to look after), but it's signposted with the 'f' and the 19th century censuses also say Meft. Googling for meft moray produces 57,100 results, but mest moray produces a load of stuff in Norwegian so it's difficult to say how many results there would be - in the first six pages there are only two real hits for Mest referring to this place, one of which is this thread. LIBINDX has Meft Cottage but no Mest.
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Howdy
Very old post. But an interesting read for me. The family tree obsession is only new for me and unfortunately Ive not been able to leave it alone.
The Jane Simpson b 28 June 1789 in Urquhart to John Simpson and Margaret Duncan I have discovered (after many frustrating hours, plenty of reading and a bit of luck) is my 4th great grandmother.
Her daughter Ann Mathew b 1814 married John Campbell (Im stuck with him) a coal miner and left the area.
Ann passed away in Edinburgh 1893.
Mcsqueel
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Whoops, that's what I get for listening to an old guy who had lived there!
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Interesting. I'll go and ask around when I am passing (it's only 5 or 6 miles from where I live, and I once viewed and almost bought a house there before common sense prevailed - it has vast acres of lawn which would have taken ages to look after), but it's signposted with the 'f' and the 19th century censuses also say Meft. Googling for meft moray produces 57,100 results, but mest moray produces a load of stuff in Norwegian so it's difficult to say how many results there would be - in the first six pages there are only two real hits for Mest referring to this place, one of which is this thread. LIBINDX has Meft Cottage but no Mest.
I've come late to this debate but I can absolutely confirm that the croft was called Moss of Meft - because my Great Granny lived there and I spent most of my school holidays there when I was a young boy. It was very different then - I remember the excitement when my Auntie Nell got a Calor gas cooker, so she didn't have to cook on the fire.
RWT