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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: Wicklow Rose on Wednesday 21 September 11 16:31 BST (UK)
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The databases that form the Family Search collection of Irish records has gone live today on Ancestry.
This includes the Civil Registration Indexes as follows:
Births and deaths for the entire island 1864 to 1921
Non-Catholic marriages for the entire island 1845-1921
Catholic marriages for the entire island 1864-1921
Births, marriages and deaths for the 26 counties of the Republic 1922-1958.
In addition, Roman Catholic parish register entries from various sources (the old IGI as well as incomplete data culled from some parish registers).
The benefit of the Ancestry option is that the marriage searched returns can be additionally searched to find all the names that appear on that page of the register volume. That's a real improvement. And the search facility just feels better (never have liked the LDS search). But, of course, it doesn't come free.
You pays your money and you makes your choice.
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Thanks a million for that. It will certainly make searching a lot easier for Ireland. Just a word of caution though. Be open to spelling variations. My grandfather and his 4 siblings were born between 1861 and 1873 and in the parish registers they had 5 different surname spellings. Almost wrecked my head trying to ensure they were the correct family, as the registers were not in good condition and print was poor. Hopefully the transcribed versions will help. Do you know if Ancestry have included the images, as they usually have very good quality scans?
Irishrose
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Thanks for posting the information. I've stickied it on the board for the moment to keep it more visable.
Note: if you don't have a subscription to Ancestry and don't wish to give credit card details to use the free trial then check with your local library- many have Ancestry Library Edition which you can use free of charge as a member. Remember that due to Ancestry's terms & conditions Rootschat does not allow you to request look-ups.
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Looks like these have been updated on Ancestry.
You can click on a marriage record and view all the people who were married on the same page (normally four couples). Very Useful indeed.
Irish Catholic Parish Records, 1742-1884 have been added too.
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Irishrose.
There are no images. Only text.
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Ancestry claims that these are 'new' records? ???
Ancestry’s ‘New’ Irish Records get Thumbs-Down from Genealogists (http://www.abroadintheyard.com/ancestrys-irish-records-get-thumbsdown-from-genealogists/)
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Ancestry always seem to say their records are 'new' but the new feature here is that it's possible to find possible spouses in the marriage index.
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I've just found 2 more elusive marriages there so am
delighted.May wait til October the 4th for the update to
the parish records on Irishgenealogy.ie though before
ordering the certs'.
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It also appears that you can find children born to a couple after about 1927 when the mothers maiden name was also indexed.
I have just found 3 cousins that I previously only had basic details of.
H
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Aghadowey, you mention the library version of Ancestry. Are there any libraries in the Dublin area with such a subscription?
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You'll need to check with your local library/libraries. Most have website these days and mention any online databases they provide. For example, here's the Dublin City Libraries page-
http://www.netvibes.com/dublincitypubliclibraries#Home
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Hi All
Just a slight word of caution here to those checking this index. I get the Ancestry newsletter and in it there is an article about his collection which reads:
“Ancestry.com has posted indexes to Irish Civil Registrations which began in 1864 for births, marriages, and deaths (1845 for non-Catholic marriages). In addition there is an index to births and baptisms that dates back to 1620, extracted from a variety of records. Three other collections that were also posted caught my eye–Catholic baptisms, marriages, and deaths (the latter being the smallest). Although these collections are works-in-progress that are smaller in size and not all-inclusive....” it continues “A plurality of the records currently available on Ancestry.com are from County Meath, but there is also significant representation from other parts of the country. (See the list of counties at the end of this article.) The list is as follows- Counties with representation in these three collections include: Antrim, Cavan, Cork, Fermanagh, Galway (marriages only), Kerry, Kildare, Laois, Louth, Mayo, Meath, Offaly, Roscommon, Sligo, Tipperary (marriages only), Tyrone, Westmeath, and Wexford.
So not all inclusive at this stage.
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Thanks for posting that but I read it as they have the civil registration index and then In addition there is an index to births and baptisms that dates back to 1620... .
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Yes, I read it like that also ,however it is that last bit that seemed significant to me - just prior to the listing of counties Counties with representation in these three collections
and then alarm bells rang.
I am always most cautious when looking for Irish information, it's just too easy to think great they've got it all and spend so much time looking for information that isn't there. :-\
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Aghadowny, you wrote:
"You'll need to check with your local library/libraries. Most have website these days and mention any online databases they provide. For example, here's the Dublin City Libraries page-
http://www.netvibes.com/dublincitypubliclibraries"
I think the answer is 'none' and with scarcer resources in public sector in future, it is likely to continue to be the case. I once had access to Ancestry in Pearse Research Room. But later it was gone. They said perhaps it was a trial period that it was there. If any library were to have it, it think that would be the best one. I know nothing of the National library.
At this stage I have paid enough to Ancestry and with bulk of research completed, it is not worth further subs. I can access it in UK in libraries there when visiting. It is also available in NA in Kew.
Thanks for link.
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just read today GRO Belfast has announced a tender for companies to digistie their holdings and provide an online search facility the same as the GRO Scotland with an of being online Jan 2014expectation
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just read today GRO Belfast has announced a tender for companies to digistie their holdings and provide an online search facility the same as the GRO Scotland
Details posted last month on this topic-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,606412.0.html
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the Library Edition of Ancestry is available for use in all Northern Ireland Public libraries, and it is free !! I regularly take the train from Dublin to Newry and do my family tree chasing there. Library cards are available to anyone from the island of Ireland with any form of ID.