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Independent Islands => Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark => Topic started by: Cathy_Aus on Thursday 13 October 11 04:33 BST (UK)
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GDAY:)
Looking for a Jean Pierrre(john Paul) Simmounds on 1841 Census in Jersey
he was Born circa 1817 in st martins Jersey
Looking too for his parents and Possible Siblings too please
He came to australia , and died in South Australia in 1872 Aged 55 yrs
We have not yet found his entry into Australia but talk is he had a few male siblings came here also
Any help would be much appreciated
Thanks
regards
Cathy:)
Early death Certs in SA give very little info, just age at death, place and cause of death
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I can't do anything now until next week but I'll check the St Martin's baptism registers for you then.
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Gday Jersey:)
Thanks!!!!That would be Fabulous!!!Much Appreciated!!
Cheers
Regards
Cathy:)
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Hi Again Jersey:)
Theres a Possibility John Paul (jean Pierre) Simounds may have had Brothers james and thomas...Also one of his daughters had a Middle name of Jackson
Interesting, May be a direct line on female side
Thanks again:)
regards
Cathy:)
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Hi Cathy- if you are from happy Valley, we may have met in the past .
I have been doing quite a bit of reseach on both the Simounds and Gater Family Trees and if you like to contact me I will give you copy of the CD of What I have. David & Cariol Westerly are planning to visit the Cahhnel Island shortly.
Jean Pierre Simounds born circa 1817 in St Martins , Island Of Guensey- his parents were John Simounds & Elizabeth Jane Sauvage of the Island of Jersey
We are not sure, but we believe John Paul [or Jean Pierre] came out to NSW and came across with two brothers William & James [ born circa 1816] driving a mob of sheep from Sydney to Adelaide. John Paul ended up at Willunga where he met Johanne O'Neill .
James ended up in Parks NSW and died iin Broken Hil in 1902l. Not sure of what happen to William as yet.
Every branch of the family tell the same story of Jean Pieere having a duel over a young lady and the opponent was severly wounded- as duels were banned and also the other family's brother were after Jean, he first fled to England and then migrated out to Aust
Interesting bit is that John Paul was reportably very tall ie 6'7" and had a very good deep singing voice. His son Peter was the smallest son in the family. Cheers Geoff Chapman (*)
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Gday geoff:)
Thanks for your Reply...Im a Friend of Sherrae and graham Simmonds helping them research family tree
Wondering do u have Jean Pierres actual Birth cert with parents John and Elizabeth Jane Sauvage?
I have uk/aus ancestry and seen a few obvious mistakes on family trees there
Noticed there was a Martha Elizabeth Sauvage born 1844 st Peter Port Guernsey married a Newell here in SA..Maybe it might be an idea trying to follw that line see if connects to Elizabeth Jane Sauvage
Great someone going to channel Islands too, not that easy sometimes to research in oz, tho lotsa stuff on line these days
regards
cathy:)
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Hi Kathy
I now know where your friends fit;
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My Grand mother was Maggie-May Coote nee Symonds- Norma's Aunt
I have some family photos wjth Norma in them with Peter & Alice Simounds
No I do not have not got John Pauls birth certificate and thats why David & Carol are going to the Channel Islands. David works in the Geneological Society as a helper/ professional researcher.
Do want a coy of the gater & Simounds family tree?
Does Graham have any photos? I went down to cousin Isla Clark [ nee Simounds] the other day but she has started to start losing her memmory and she is the last one to really identify people in my photos.
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I checked the St Martin Jersey baptism register and there is no one with the name of Simmounds or anything similar. However as another poster has said there is also a St Martin's parish in Guernsey.
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Dear Geoff Chapman, I would love to get a copy of the Simounds family information. My grandmother (Mater-Nanna) was Edith Simounds (from Perlubie) who married Bertie Thompson (from Haslem) in the Streaky Bay area of South Australia. I have been trying to muddle though stuff in Mundia to sort out why Jean Pierre came out to Australia and how he connected to the Sauvage family. And also, i haven't been able to find anything at all for his wife Joanna except County Poor House, County Cork i think. No parents, siblings, etc. If I could possibly get the CD you speak of, or any written information, i would be happy to send what it costs. I am in North Queensland, but was born in SA. cousin Bruce has been doing some research through Ancestry.com. Aunt Daphne also mentioned a Clarke connection in Blight, SA, who was going to do a Simounds family history but i came across that in a very old letter and don't have any further info there. I would love to be able to connect all the dots for Jean Pierre and Joanna. L A Thompson
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Look at Jerrioedis.....an amazing site for all Jersey researchers
Ringros
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Sorry...finger tapped wrong button...Jerripedia
Ringrose
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Re Joannah O'Neill. Some researchers have her now being born at Marlow, County of Cork in a family of about 11 or 12 siblings. If you look at the conditions of the lower classes in Ireland in those days, no wonder that some of the children ended up in the Poor Houses. If fact, I think they must have been lucky to get in, as many children at the time must have died by starvation.
Jean Pierre Simounds continues to be a mystery- where he was born etc as no one can actually find a direct link in the channel Islands. There are several possibilities but nothing definate.
We do know that his father was John Simounds as it was recorded on his wedding certificate. His brother James apears to have came out from England and eventually died in 1902 at Broken Hill, NSW. There is still the mystery of other brothers Thomas & William.
Geoff Chapman Reynella South Aust
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Update jan 2013 Re Joannah O'Neill. Some researchers have her now being born at Marlow, County of Cork in a family of about 11 or 12 siblings. If you look at the conditions of the lower classes in Ireland in those days, no wonder that some of the children ended up in the Poor Houses. If fact, I think they must have been lucky to get in, as many children at the time must have died by starvation.
Jean Pierre Simounds continues to be a mystery- where he was born etc as no one can actually find a direct link in the channel Islands. There are several possibilities but nothing definate.
We do know that his father was John Simounds as it was recorded on his wedding certificate. His brother James apears to have came out from England and eventually died in 1902 at Broken Hill, NSW. There is still the mystery of other brothers Thomas & William.
If you like to contact me, I can send you a copy of the CD. Yes there is a connection with the Clarke family tree from BLYTHE [or the tiny town of Kybunga]. Edith Simounds married John Clarke a farmer at Kybunga. [Moderator edit: Names of living persons and personal contact details redacted to protect personal privacy. Please use the Personal Message system to exchange personal information]
Dear Geoff Chapman, I would love to get a copy of the Simounds family information. My grandmother (Mater-Nanna) was Edith Simounds (from Perlubie) who married Bertie Thompson (from Haslem) in the Streaky Bay area of South Australia. I have been trying to muddle though stuff in Mundia to sort out why Jean Pierre came out to Australia and how he connected to the Sauvage family. And also, i haven't been able to find anything at all for his wife Joanna except County Poor House, County Cork i think. No parents, siblings, etc. If I could possibly get the CD you speak of, or any written information, i would be happy to send what it costs. I am in North Queensland, but was born in SA. cousin Bruce has been doing some research through Ancestry.com. Aunt Daphne also mentioned a Clarke connection in Blight, SA, who was going to do a Simounds family history but i came across that in a very old letter and don't have any further info there. I would love to be able to connect all the dots for Jean Pierre and Joanna. L A Thompson
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Hi Geoffrey. long time no talk. how's every thing down in the cold !! . i have lost your email address. could you please contact me. I need to get another Family History disk from You. MY won't work anymore. too much humidity up here for things to last too long
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Please contact me for an updated CD at 13A Riverway Court , McCracken, SA 5211
my email address for Roots is geoffreyc98@yahoo.com but I am not sure if they will block ant reference to direct contact. I have not used Roots for about 5 years so it took me quite a while to reactivate my access so I could reply to you. In the last 5 years I have remarried and shifted from James Street, Reynella to McCracken [ which is Victor Harbor], so I am back in family territory- Port Elliot is about 5 Km to the east of where I live.
If you send me your postal address I will send you the CD.
Geoffrey Chapman
Mobile 0416216380