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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Wexford => Topic started by: MaggieTag on Monday 17 October 11 23:03 BST (UK)
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Hi Rootschatters,
Henry L Linn (sic) - family from Fethard, Wexford - of his Majesty's Preventative Service (Coastguard??) stationed at St Johns Point, Co Down married Margaretta Ferres of Larne, County Antrim, daughter of Dr Samuel Ferres, Larne, Co Antrim in Oct 1828. Had two know children William Henry Lynn, Architect (born Dec 1829 St Johns Point, Co Down) and Samuel Ferres Lynn sculpture and architect (born 1836 Fethard, Wexford)- both died Belfast. Samuel Ferres in 1876 and William Henry in 1915).
Adam Loftus Lynn Esq, of Inyard Wexford married Mary Anne Ferres daughter of Dr Samuel Ferres of Larne Feb 1833.
Does anyone know of this Lynn family? Could Adam Loftus Lynn and Henry L. Linn be related - it seems more than a coincidence that both married sisters. Information of any other children born to either of the couples would be appreciated.
Any information on the families of the Lynn's in Wexford would be appreciated.
Thanks
Margaret
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Hi Margaret
I cannot provide any information regard the two families, but the following may be of some use.
Henry Johnson Lynn was nominated as a Chief Officer to the Preventative Service on 22 Jan 1822 ( ADM 175/99 pdf 63), at the time of his nomination he gave his age as 23, single, and that he had been born in Pembrook. His first posting was to Mizen Head PS (ADM 175/15 pdf 108), this shows that previously he had been living in Feathars [sic].
He joined the Preventative Service at the point when it was making the transition to the Coastguard Service (1822), so it is correct to use both terms.
I list below his subsequent postings:
5 June 1822 to Ballymoney
18 Oct 1822 to Blackwater
1 March 1825 to Ballygally
5 April 1828 to St Johns Point
20 Oct 1833 to Kilmore
Discharged Dead 23 April 1836 (ADM 175/16 pdf 40)
Martin
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Martin,
This is brilliant! Thank you very much.
I'm assuming that he was born in Wales then moved to Fethard, Wexford.
When you say nominated to the Preventative Service does this mean that this was when he initially joined up? Also was his last posting to Kilmore in Wexford? He died very young I wonder if he died whilst on duty?
Again many thanks,
Margaret
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Margaret
Yes, the nomination would indicate a first job in the Preventative service, and to have an initial posting as a Chief Officer suggests that he was from a family of some social standing. A significant number of these posts were occupied by naval officers, but because he is shown as 'Mr' and not 'Lt' I think this is unlikely for Henry.
He may not have died as a direct result of any action, the DD (discharged dead) note indicates that he died while in post at Kilmore, this could be through illness.
Martin
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Thanks Martin,
Your help is much appreciated.
Margaret
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Adam Loftus Lynn migrated to Australia in 1850 - he kept a diary of the journey. After some experiments as a Solicitor in Sydney and an unsuccessful miner in
outback NSW, he went to Melbourne, but then shifted to Ballarat where he repeated the same mining career path as in NSW, then became Ballarat's first Solicitor; he represented the Scobie family at the Enquiry into the causes of the Eureka incident. He became one of Ballarat's prominent pioneer citizens. He ended his career as Secretary of The Cemetery Trust - Ballarat has two large Cemeteries which operated simultaneously. He helped build and run the first Hospital and reputedly built the first 'house' in the city.
He and his wife Marianne had eleven children, three boys and eight girls, one if whom was born on the voyage out. One boy was born in Sydney.
None of his sons had children, though his eldest had a step son. His daughters all married, but only the eldest was childless. His and Mariannes descendants are numerous and spread over most States and the Northern Territory of Australia. Some are in New Zealand.
A portrait of Adam Loftus exists as does a photograph of a lady believed to be Marianne.
By the bye, he is never referred to as other than as 'Adam Loftus' and his wife other than 'Marianne', though it is suspected Adam Loftus never managed to pronounce it properly- try Adrianne, drop the 'Adr' and use 'Mar' instead. Adam died aged 84 and is buried in the Old Cemetery. Marianne outlived him and died in the home of her youngest daughter's husband's house. She is buried in the New Cemetery.
I have an extensive history of Adam Loftus and of each of his children.
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I’m a descendant of Adam & Marianne’s daughter Jemima Lynn, She married William John Waddell from Co Down, Ireland. She was his second wife and they had three children Arthur Lynn, Helen Marian and Olive Muriel.
Arthur had a son named William Lynn, William Lynn named his son Thomas Lynn and his son was named Patrick Lynn.
I’ve been trying to trace the Lynn family but have hit a brick wall. I can’t seem to find any information about Adam and Henry’s father John Lynn, although I’ve managed to find information about their mother Wilhelmina Glascott.
If anyone has any information they’re willing to share I would be most grateful.
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Hi Lizre,
I have large files on Adam Loftus Lynn [ALL] and his wife Marianne Beers nee Ferres , plus many of their descendants. Below is a small portion. If you would like more, please send me an email address as the files are far too big to include here. However, the piece of Jemima information, I am missing, is where she is buried. I also have a photo, I believe is Jemima, plus more on Adam Loftus and Marianne. ALL wrote a Diary of his trip to Australia; an edited copy is available.
Jemima Lynn,
• seventh daughter, eighth child of the eleven of Adam Loftus Lynn and Marianne Beers neé Ferres,
• born on 18 October 1847, at "St Kerin’s", or “ St Kerns”, Salt Mills, Co. Wexford, Ireland,
• died on 9 October 1927, aged 80, at the residence of her daughter (Mrs. Harold Birtchnell), Mt Gwynne, Mulwala, NSW, 2
• place of interment unknown, does not appear to be in any of the Springvale group of cemeteries,
• left an Estate, by will dated 10th August 1925; personal property valued at £12,206 to her children and grand-children. 3
• in widowhood, had home in Malvern, as had her two of her widowed sisters,
• arrived in Australia fifteen days before her third birthday.
• married, aged 34, he 35, on 3 January 1882, as his second wife, William John Waddell, a prominent merchant of Donald, Victoria and four years after her father’s death, 1
• marriage took place at the residence of her mother, in Ballarat,
• when they married after their father’s death, the last two unmarried Lynn daughters, Jemima and her sister Sarah Eliza, were both in their early thirties,
• according to LL, this was due to the necessary delay caused by the seeking of “suitable” husbands of good “family”,
• whether ALL was dead or not, when Waddell appeared on scene is not known; but he was unlikely to have been known ALL, as WJW’s first wife didn’t die until 1880 and ALL was dead by then,
• according to the CWP’s, Jemima was once proposed to by Fenwick Hamilton, future husband of her sister, Sarah Eliza Cherry,
• like Fenwick Hamilton, as a merchant of some standing, it is an interesting speculation whether William John Waddell would have fared any better than Hamilton, had Adam Loftus Lynn been alive to have a say! [on his suitability as a husband]……………………………….
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Hi Scracka,
Wow! Thank you so much for the information you’ve provided. I would love to see the other files you have. I don’t have any information about where Jemima is buried, but I will get in touch with a family member over the next few days and find out if she knows where she’s interred.
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This is the rest of the info on Jemima...……………..
• the residence of her mother, stated to be, 34 Urquhart St, has not been visited so the present condition [1995] of the site cannot be described,
• LL says all eight of the Lynn girls were good-looking talented redheads – on this the CWP’s agree,
• ALL was redheaded and one of his three sons certainly was; there is no confirmatory evidence Marianne, the mother, was one way or the other, but that would be most unusual genetically,
• certainly, LL’s mother, Sarah Eliza, was of striking appearance even in old age,
• LL makes references to "…Aunt Jemima being a governess to the Hamilton children" the children of Sarah Eliza.
• from this and other references, it would seem Jemima was one daughter of Adam Loftus Lynn with whom LL had some contact,
• her notes about this aunt are tinged with signs of obvious affection,
• LL certainly would never have met the oldest aunt, Minna,
• apparently LL had little intimate contact with another older aunt, Marianne, otherwise she would have known the fate of the eldest son, [Adam] Loftus; knowledge that Marianne certainly had, but Sarah Eliza did not, if the quite erroneous story LL told of his early death had its source with her mother. [See Part 14: The Sons].
• it is difficult to see how the "…Aunt Jemima being a governess to the Hamilton children" could have come about.
• it is also difficult to see how the children could have ‘gone ridees’ on Jemima’s long button up boot, unless she visited Ballarat frequently in the years of the Hamilton children’s early childhood.
• Sarah Eliza Cherry Lynn, married on 10 April 1882 in Church of England Christ Church pro-Cathedral, Ballarat, just three months after Jemima married,
• the Hamilton children were
1. Fenwick Loftus [Dick] Hamilton, born 1884,
2. Marianne [Tiger] Lynn Hamilton, born 1886,
3. Rupert James Lynn Hamilton, born 1890,
• at the date of Jemima’s husband’s death, they would have been 12, 10 and 6 respectively; ages where a governess might be employed.
• however, why would Jemima undertake the task? it certainly would not appear that she was short of money and needed employment,
a) being a partner in her late husband’s successful business in Donald and
b) dying wealthy, see 2 below,
• one is led to surmise that LL may be recalling some other relationship altered by the passing of the years,
• perhaps Jemima stayed with her younger sister for an extended period either after W J Waddell died 17 August 1896, or after Fenwick Hamilton died just two months earlier on 23 June 1896. Coincidently, both died of the same disease,
• it might be noticed that the address given in marriage notice is not that in Muir Street, the residence of ALL, where he lived before his death, though it is not far away, and of course, it is not that in Alfred town, where Marianne Lynn would spend the rest of her life, for as yet her youngest daughter, Sarah Eliza Cherry had not yet married Fenwick Hamilton.
1. Donald Express, 20/1/1882, and Argus, 26/1/1882,
WADDELL - LYNN. - On the 3rd inst. at the residence of the bride's Mother, [34 Urquhart St., Ballarat], 1 by the Rev. H Swan - Wm John Waddell, of [son of Wm Waddell of County Down] Donald, to Jemima, seventh daughter of the late Adam Loftus Lynn of Ballarat, solicitor.
2. Argus, 11/10/1927,
WADDELL-On the 9Th October, 1927, at the residence of her daughter (Mrs. Harold Birtchnell) Mt Gwynne, Mulwala, (NSW), Jemima, widow of the late W J. Waddell, of Donald, in her 80th year. [Contradicts Obituary below].
3. The Dandenong Journal, Thursday 12 January 1928
Jemima Waddell, - formerly of Dandenong, and recently of Mount Gwynne Mulwala, N.S.W., who died on 9th October 1927, left by will dated 10th August 1925; personal property valued at £12,206 to her children and grand-children.
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Thank you once again Scracka, this is all very interesting. I believe I may have found where Jemima is buried. Possibly Yarrawonga Cemetery in Victoria. This person died on the same day as our Jemima.
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Hi.
Yarrawonga makes sense and is probably right. I'll see if I can access the Cemetery Records soon.
Thank you for that. You may have received a couple of emails under a strange name to you. I apologise for any confusion caused thereby. Scracka was my childhood nick name and like a lot of such, I am still better known by that name to some, than by my real name.
Look for my emails with address containing mcadie. I have sent you my 'Part 12: Jemima Waddell' file [659 kb].
I'll send you a list of all the parts, so you can choose.
Regards.
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From 'Houses of Wexford' (with special thanks to David Rowe & Eithne Scallan)
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Innyard House, Fethard-On-Sea.
(also Inyard-Inguard-Irmgard)
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History.
Innyard house was probably built about 1780.
An Eleanor Mildway, daughter of Loftus of Fethard Castle, married John Lynn, who came to Fethard before 1746.
Around 1780, Lynns vacated Fethard Castle.
The father, John, and son, Adam, went to Dungulph, but John jnr went to Inyard where decendants resided until about 1900.
Lewis in 1837, remarked, 'Inyard, the seat of the Lynn family, is situated in tastefully disposed grounds.
According to Cloney, Thomas Keogh Lynn (surgeon) lived the last 30 years of his life in Inyard where he died in 1890 aged 89.
The last Lynn of Innyard was Henry's son, William Henry Lynn.
The date of his death is 1915 and included among detailed memorial inscriptions dating from 1800 onwards in the cemetery in Fethard-On -sea.
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Thanks for the information. In the Adam Loftus Lynn family papers here, the indications were that Inyard [sometimes spelt Innyard] was village and not a house. My error obviously. I understand Inyard fell into disrepair and has recently - last few years - been reconstructed and is now a guest house. Adam Loftus Lynn went from Inyard to the village of Salt Mills.
Thanks again.