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feather weight boxer circa 1920s from NSW.
Mother: Mary Bridget (Quinn) Finnie.
Interested in Jack's dates; photos of him boxing; siblings.
malsie 8)
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Maybe this is his birth ?
564/1902 FINNIE JOHN J SYDNEY W MARY SYDNEY
Maybe his Father's death ?
17178/1950 FINNIE WILLIAM SYDNEY ROBERT JOHN RACHAEL GLEBE
There are quite a few stories about him on Trove, but I can't see any Photos:
Regards
Alison
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Hi there,
Have you tried Trove ?
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/20255934 6 September 1918 The Brisbane Courier
What was his middle name?
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2298659 24 August 1933 The Canberra Times
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/1727923 17 September 1936 Sydney Morning Herald
Cheers, JM
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His parents Marriage :
7858/1896 FINNIE SIDNEY W QUINN MARY NEWTOWN
Siblings:
18350/1897 FINNIE MABEL M SYDNEY W MARY SYDNEY
27220/1899 FINNIE WILLIAM C SYDNEY W MARY SYDNEY
19047/1904 FINNIE ADELINE E SYDNEY W MARY SYDNEY
23796/1906 FINNIE VERONICA E SYDNEY W MARY GLEBE
16526/1909 FINNIE RACHEL C SIDNEY W MARY B MOSMAN
Siblings marriages are on BMD NSW online.
His mother's death :
4637/1919 FINNIE MARY B JOHN BRIDGET SYDNEY
Regards
Alison
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:) :) :)
thanks JM, Alison,
I believe he had a son who played for St George ?
And lived at Hurstville.
all very interesting !!
malsie
desperate to find photo: maybe he was featured in Women's Weekly ?! Ha heh
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:)
There seems to be a link between Jack Finnie and Clarence Thomas;
that they were cousins !
Who are the Thomas' and how are they related to Jack ?!
Can anyone help me, please ?
malsie :)
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Malsie,
I see in the 19th October 1937 SMH that a Clarence Henry Thomas, 36 was shot dead in Sydney.
Regards
Gerry
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Hi
The following website may help you, regarding his fights.
http://www.anbhof.com/
http://boxrec.com/search.php?status=all&cat=boxer&first_name=jack&last_name=finney&submit=Go&pageID=2
Cheers
Genni
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Hi again
Clarence Henry John Thomas serviced in World War 1. He was 18yrs & 2mths (he lied about his aged born 1901) when he joined the army in 1916. His NOK is listed as his brother Frederick William Thomas of Erskinville.
Clarence Thomas & Jack Finnie are mentioned in a book "Gangland Sydney" by By James Morton, Susanna Lobez
I think his parents were William J THOMAS & Mary ABARDEN.
Cheers
Genni
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Hi Malsie, Your Jack boxed and trained at the same Gym at Hurstville as my Dad and his two brothers Merv and Art Todd. I dont believe "JACK" did a lot of professioanl fights but I know that they were aqainted.
My dad used to regail me about the depression and the Razor Gangs, SP's and sly grog shops. Tough times bred tough people!!
I believe Jack Finnie became embroiled in this era in some of those areas.
Maybe a Mug shot available, seems they had plenty on the two ladies.
Maybe you should watch the last episode of "Underbelly Razor"
Neil
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:) Thanks folk,
Yes, I received the book "Gangland Sydney" today.
My Grt Uncle Len (L A Stanley) taught me basic boxing as a sm child; I was told he had a gym recently
by an older relative;
maybe the one at Hurstville was it ! I thought it was Rozelle. Jack was definately his cousin.
I have read on Trove that Jack did do a bit of boxing as a f/wt: ads etc. Another relie said he got paid etc...and
a family member used to collect it for him & take it home while he went off to party.
I agree: Hard to judge ppl unless you walk in their shoes.
I'm not too keen on violent shows.
Yes, I read that 'Clarey Thomas' was the youngest WW1 soldier.
But I'm not sure how he's related to the Finnies. Thomas & Abarden are unfamiliar names to me. MAYBE, they just felt like 'kindred spirits'.
Thomas' death gave Finnie an out: he blamed him...and got off the charge - apparently.
Thanks, Neil, Genni and Gerry for info and links.
Particularly interested in the gym, Neil, do you have any photos ? Or info on L A Stanley ?
malsie :)
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Hi Malsie, The Gym at Hurstville wasn't Stanleys it was as we referred to in Town. It may have well been Rozelle. My Uncles Boxed at lots of places and my Dad was "connected" nice expression isn't it. He was a great Historian much better than me, as for the moment I cannot recall the name of the Gym at Hurstville even though I was born there.
I can place exactly where it was and know that it was where lots of Blokes spent a Ill spent youth. It was also a pool Hall or Snooker Parlor.
No photos except of my relies at different times, not much use!
I am still checking and if I come up with something i will post.
Neil ;D
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Thanks, Neil,
Probably Len only worked at whereever the gym was !
I'm sure it's a bit of family exaggeration.
I was told - and believed - he liked to go 'dancing' Saturdays;
and he liked the girls, though never married. He lived with his unmarried sister.
It seems that the ladies of the family didn't have a clue about
Jack etc. By all accounts they seem to have been lovely ladies.
Boxing of that era; and the street fighting etc of that time are fascinating.
Will have to explore, eventually !
Both Len's Dad and grand dad died in Hurstville. As a child I was taken to
Hurstville on a regular basis by mum and with nanna for a shopping day.
Indeed, I remember having a doll fixed at the 'Doll Hospital' near the station.
Years later - in my 20s - I rented in the main street of Hurstville but at the very end
in a house !
malsie
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Just wondering if your Jack Finnie was the son of Sidney William Finnie. Our family line comes through Sidney's sister, Emily Jane. Her son is mentioned in a newspaper clipping in regards to John Joseph Finnie.
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Yes, Sidney William Finnie ( ?- 1950) m Mary Bridget (Quin) Finnie (1875-1919). I have his parents as John and Rachael. Sid and Bridget had 8 kids; the eldest, Jackie. I am related to Bridget via my g'ma; Bridget's sister, Adeline. Very intersted in any info, photos.
regards,
malsie
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Have lots of information on the Finnies in Australia. I have an old photo that was given to me of most of Sidney Finnies children at a wedding. Sidney's father was Laurett Finnie and his mother was Rachel Solomon. I was interested to read about the boxing and football interests of the family. One of Jack Finnies cousins was a famous Australian boxer and other played football for South Sydney Football club. Would love to exchange information with you. I am new to this Forum, so not quite sure on how to send pics and personal information.
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I think there is some rule re 3 x posts first; then you can email...looks like you've done 3, so I think you can send me a messagein rootschat then I'll give you my email address - happy to receive your info! I have examples of Len A Stanley n'paper ads for him boxing at Sydney stadium; he even boxed Jack Finnie once.
looking forward to hearing from you, malsie
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I remember going to his wife's house as a small child. Grew up with many stories about him. Knew Sid Finnie as well
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There are 2 of u : U and Misty
:) :)
malsie
note livpete
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Yes! Misty is my wife, I only realised she had posted on here the other day after i said I had had a reply! That and i am not on the computer very often.
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;D all sorted then
malsie
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Hi, my name is Stephen Finnie - I am from NSW, Australia.
I am the grandson of jack and I have read with great interest the posts on this thread.
Perhaps I can be of assistance if anyone is seeking info or is just curious about my grandfather?
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Hi, Stephen,
I am related to Mary Bridget (Quinn) Finnie by her sister Adeline ( my grt g'ma). I recently found 2 graves you may find interesting. I know other people who would be very interested in making contact - I'm sure.
If you email me directly: mer@live.co.uk I can better communicate.
Lovely to hear from you. I also am in NSW; and, on Facebook with these other folk; so, you would be very welcome.
;D malsie
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Steve,
You may find it easier to post information you wish to share here.
So looking forward to learning more about Jack Finnie.
:)
malsie
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Hi Stephen, I've only just realised I didn't answer. My husbands grandmother Vera and your Grandfather were brother and sister. My father in law, Barry, has wonderful memories of your grandparents. Am happy to share any info we have.
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Yes, Stephen,
I have been remiss not replying also.
I'm afraid I don't have much family history info re Finnies, VERY interested in any and photos.
However, Misty and Paul are very good with ancestry.
I do have some photos and info about Leonard Austin Stanley (and the Stanleys in general) in respect to Boxing. My great Uncle Len ( he was a lot of fun) was Jack's cousin. Indeed, they fought each other at the Sydney Stadium. Many articles on them in Trove as you and Misty probably know.
malsie
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Hi, my name is Stephen Finnie - I am from NSW, Australia.
I am the grandson of jack and I have read with great interest the posts on this thread.
Perhaps I can be of assistance if anyone is seeking info or is just curious about my grandfather?
Hi Stephen. My great-grandmother, Emily Jane Finnie, was Sidney Finnie's sister, and thefore Jack's aunt. I'd love to hear from you. Cheers, Lynne.
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Hi Lynne,
My name is Martine. (malsie)
Hope we all make contact - in the near future.
Mary B Quinn was my grt gma's (Adeline) sister
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Hi Lynne,
My name is Martine. (malsie)
Hope we all make contact - in the near future.
Mary B Quinn was my grt gma's (Adeline) sister
Hi Maisie,
I've been researching the Finnie family for years.....such a fascinating history. So far I've managed to trace back to my 5th great-grandparents in Ayrshire. I'm so excited to hear from you!! :)
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ovely to meet you, Lynne. I 'know' Paul - facebook friend.
another friend is married to a Finnie descendant - nice if u
could join us
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Hi Malsie. Please make contact. I am married to a Tormey relation and researching Eleanor Dawson.
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Very interested in Tormey and Dawson
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Tried to send a message but Wombats box full re Tormey
Please personal message me an email address
kind regards,
Martine
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Very interested WOMBATS
Please reply
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Maisie,
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Sarah
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Hello Maisie,
Trying hard to contact you regards Tormey family, I am a new member.
Regards,
Wombats
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Thanks Sarah
Hope to make a connection with Wombats soon
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Hello Malsie I am * would like to discuss Tormey in Dunedin.
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Sorry, I know nothing of the Tormeys at all...can you tell me what you know ?
kind regards,
Malsie