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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Topic started by: andrewp91 on Monday 21 November 11 03:06 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I was wondering if someone could help me try and find a few pictures or even wereabouts of where my 3Great granddad worked. He and his family worked as Tailors according to Ancestry.co.UK. Here are the FACTS of the family's that worked as tailors.
BENJAMIN SEDGWICK - B.1796 (Armitage, Staffordhire, England) - D.1878 (Warwickshire, England)
1841 census; - Margaret Sedgwick (wife, formally Yeomans),
- William Sedgwick, James B Sedgwick, Thomas Sedgwick (Children)
- TAILOR (Occupation)
- Blackemore Terrance, Birmingham, England (Address)
1851 census; - Elizabeth Sedgwick (wife, formally Burdett)
- Henry Sedgwick (Children)
- TAILOR (Occupation)
- Bath Row?, Birmingham, England (Address, but living with Burdett family)
1861 + 1871 census; - Elizabeth Sedgwick (wife, formally, Burdett)
- Henry Sedgwick, Sarah Jane Sedgwick, Frederick Sedgwick (Children)
- TAILOR (Occupation)
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His Son WILLIAM SEDGWICK b.1819 (Armitage, Staffordshire, England)
1841 census; - Living With Parents (As above)
- TAILOR (Occupation)
- Blackemore Terrance, Birmingham, England (Address)
1851 census; - Hannah Sedgwick (wife, formally Bailey)
- William T Sedgwick (Children)
- TAILOR (Occupation)
- 233 Great Colemore Street, Birmingham, England (Address)
1861 census - Hannah Sedgwick (wife, formally Bailey)
- William T Sedgwick, Kate Sedgwick (Children)
- TAILOR (Occupation)
- Phillip Street, Aston, Warwickshire, England (Address)
1871 census - Hannah Sedgwick (wife, formally Bailey)
- William T Sedgwick, Kate Sedgwick (Children)
- TAILOR (Occupation)
- 196 High Street, Aston, Warwickshire, England (Address)
1891 census; - Living With Child (As Below)
- TAILOR (Occupation)
- 173 Shenlock Street?, Birmingham, England (Address)
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His Grandson WILLIAM T SEDGWICK B.1847 (Birmingham, England)
1851 census; - Living With Parents (As above)
- SCHOOL
- 233 Great Colemore Street, Birmingham, England (Address)
1861 census - Living With Parents (As above)
- SPECTICAL MAKER (Occupation)
- Phillip Street, Aston, Warwickshire, England (Address)
1871 census; - Living With Parents (As above)
- TAILOR (Occupation)
- 196 High Street, Aston, Warwickshire, England (Address)
1881 census; - Felicia Annie Sedgwick (wife, formally Corbett)
- William T C Sedgwick (Children)
- TAILOR (Occupation)
- Sheldon, Birmingham, England (Address)
1891 census; - Felicia Annie Sedgwick (wife, formally Corbett)
- William T C Sedgwick, Godfrey Carl Sedgwick (Children)
- William Sedgwick (Father, As above)
- TAILOR (Occupation)
- 173 Shenlock Street?, Birmingham, England (Address)
1901 census; - William T C Sedgwick (Children)
- TAILOR (Occupation)
- Yardley, Birmingham, England (Address)
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Because of this, i feel like there might have been a business due to how many generations had past and so many Tailors. I Would be VERY greatful if people could have a closer look for me into find whether or not they did have a business and where about it might have been. I Would also be greatful if any pictures could be found, if not, please notify me on how to find pictures myself.
Once again Thank you very much for your help!
Andrew
PS: There could have been more Tailors in the family, but the 1841 census is the furthest i could see on the census records, if any more information is found before 1841 (or any other information after) i would be really greatfull!
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Try http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/ Historical Directories is a digital library of local and trade directories for England and Wales, from 1750 to 1919
Stan
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thank you! Very much appreciated. Very helpful for now and any other enquires that I might have about my ancestors in the future. Do you think that I would e able to get any photos of them and what would my best bet be? Much appreciated for the look up and the site!
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Photos will depend on whether or not your ancestors operated as tailors out of a proper shop, or just from home. And even then will depend on any photos having been taken in the area. Photos generally date from the 1860's; anything before that becomes rarer.
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hi andrew
for photo,s have a look in the FRANCIS FRITH site he was one of the most prolific photographers way back who went over most of england taking pics and his collection does include a good part of warwickshire .
you may strike lucky on there
regards
trevor
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Thanks trevor! I will gladly give that site a look. Never saw the site before. Is it free?
Many thanks
Andrew
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hi andrew
yes a free site , also it,s always worth doing a google search just in case something comes up worth looking at .
regards
trevor
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I was half way through typing, so started again after reading your last post t mo. :)
Even if you do a google image search, you might strike it lucky.
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hi pf
blimey that,s a first me being ahead of the game ;D ;D
regards
trevor
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Thank you bot for the suggestions. I will do the advice you have given me and hopefully I can strike it lucky. I really appreciate both help from you! Much Apericated. Andrew
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Post on here how you get on, Andrew. It makes our efforts feel worthwhile to know what outcome there is.
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And Trevor, it pays never to type without the light on when you have a black keyboard.
;D
Darren
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I tried the google search but found nothing with William t Sedgwick 1842. There wa a few pictures but none that said William t Sedgwick on. I tried taking the T out and the 1842 and more came up but none that was fitted. With the site that was suggested I did not have any look. I could only see the maps of the Birmingham area. I struggling to find individual people search or business search. Do you think that there is any other way I could find out to see pictures? Thank you for the advice you have given me still. Andrew
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As I said above, finding old photo's can be hit and miss. Another option to explore is to contact any relevant family history, or local history groups or societies, or even local archives and libraries. They might hold old photo's, especially of businesses.
I don't know if you tried the historical directories site yet, but I did a quick search and found Benjamin Sedgwick listed as a tailor in 78 Bromsgrove St Birmingham in Pigot's Directory of 1828-29, the volume that includes Warwickshire.
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White's Directory of Birmingham 1849 has William Sedgwick, tailor and draper in Ryland Rd.
PO Directory for Birmingham, Staffordshire & Worcester 1850 has William Sedgwick , tailor, at 12 Ryland Rd. Edgbaston.
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I have used that site yet (would you be able to give me the website please)?
Thank you having a look up for me and I very very sure that the one you found in Edgbaston is the one as I just searched the road and it is right next to where they use to live on Bath Row and which is also right next too Great Colmore Street. I am very sure these would be the same people I am trying to find! Great to know that. So does this mean that they did have a business there?
The weird thing about this all is that all the sedgwicks come from my one nan side (about 4 or 5 great granddads side down the line) and my nan on the other side use to live on cregoe street untill recently (which is between both Bath Row and Great Colmore Street!)! Its the road off it! Amazing how life works!
So does this mean he did have a business then?
So to try and find any pictures I will have to go into the birmigham library to see any? Do you need a library card to use there? I never been to it before. Thank you very much for your help in finding this!!
Does it give you the name of what the building was called?
Much appreciated
Andrew
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I have used that site yet (would you be able to give me the website please)?
Andrew
Try http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/ Historical Directories is a digital library of local and trade directories for England and Wales, from 1750 to 1919
Stan
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To answer your questions in order:
There are several ways of searching. I have found the easiest way is to search by keyword. Then you can type in the surname you are researching. You can also narrow down the search by county or decade.
It is hard to say whether they had an actual shop or not. I would tend to think so, by advertising in these directories. One thing you must remember is that just because they are not in the directories, does not mean they weren't still in business. To put your name into the directories was an added cost.
I can't answer about the Birmingham library; but don't rule out local history and family history groups, or even the nearest archives. Any of them could hold photos.
Try a google search for "photos of old Birmingham"; I came up with a lot of hits. You might get lucky that way.
And no, it doesn't give the name of the building, judt the address.
And thanks Stan, I was still typing when you posted; I edited before I posted it. :)
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Thank you both very much for helping. Confusing site but got there in the end!
Thanks for the site and advice given. Will look into local history's on google. Much appreciated! Will write back with what I find.
Amdrew