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I took up researching my fathers ancestry over recent years and this was as far as I could get. Is anyone out there related or could help dig any deeper???
Peter Clancy, Farmer, Died 12 Apr 1891 at about age 60, as farmer of Derryherk since atleast 1857.
Married Bridget Gilaspie/Gillespie (Biddy) on 3 Feb 1845 in Kinlough, Leitrim, Died 14 Aug 1898 in Derryherk.
8 Children:
1. William Clancy Born 8 Apr 1846 in Kinlough, Leitrim, Died 26 Feb 1923 in Anderston, Glasgow.
Married Margaret O’Neil on 23 Sept 1872 in Bundoran, Donegal, Ireland, Died 28 Aug 1937 in Glasgow. Margaret Born about 1853 in Ireland to Father Arthur O’Neil & Ann Blane of Dunmuckrum, Donegal. Their Gravestone was erected by John O'Neil (of Christchurch, NZ) at Assaroe Abbey Cemetery, Ballyshannon. Headstone reads: "father Arthur, died Mar 26 1901, age 84; mother Ann O'Neil, died Jan 5, 1902, age 82; also sisters Mary and Catherine O'Neil". Arthur's death record was submitted by another daughter Anne Connolly.
They had 6 Children:
(a) Susan Clancy Born 13 July 1873 in Craighall Head, Maryhill, Glasgow, Died 18 Jan 1940 in Glasgow. Married John McGlone on 20 Jan 1898 at St Patricks, Anderston. Born 8 Jun 1868 in Collooney, Sligo, Died 14 Nov 1934 in Glasgow. They had 5 Children by 1911.
(b) Mary Clancy Baptised 3 Feb 1875 in Kinlough, Leitrim, Died Aug 1953 at 11 Kintra Street, Govan, Glasgow or 1928 in Glasgow. Married Joseph Sands on 25 Aug 1897 at St. Patrick’s, Anderston, Glasgow. Born 7 Apr 1873 in Belfast, Antrim, Ireland, Died in Victoria Infirmary, Glasgow. By 1911 they had 6 children.
(c) Margaret Clancy (Maggie) Born 22 Sep 1877 in St Rollox Parish, Glasgow, Died 14 Oct 1910 in Anderston. Married Thomas Kelly on 31 Dec 1903 at St Patricks, Anderston. Born 19 Nov 1877 in Rathavesteen, Mayo.
(d) Ellen Clancy (Nellie) Born 13 Apr 1879 at 46 Cathrine St, Glasgow, Died 1958 in Glasgow. Married Patrick McGinty on 12 Jul 1906 at St Patricks. Born 31 Jan 1872 in Raphoe, Donegal, Died 12 Dec 1941 in Stobhill Hospital, Glasgow.
(e) Catherine Clancy (Kate) Born 13 Aug 1881 at 75 Clyde St. Glasgow. Married John Doyle on 2 Aug 1909 at St Patricks, Anderston. Born abt 1888.
(f) Charles Peter Clancy Born 23 Mar 1885 at 25 Clyde St, Anderston, Glasgow, Died 2 Aug 1933 in Public Hospital, Timaru, NZ. Buried 4 Aug 1933 at Timaru Cememtery, RC section. Married Jane Whyte, Brush maker, on 1 Jan 1906 at St Patricks, Anderston, Glasgow. Born 11 Jun 1886 in Anderston & Died 11 Jan 1957 in Timaru. They had 4 Children, 2 in Glasgow & 2 in Christchurch, NZ after emigrating abt 1911.
(g) Agnes Clancy Born 3 Apr 1888 in Anderston, Died 27 Oct 1848 at 465 Keppochhill Rd, Glasgow. Married Arthur Patrick Short on 17 Jul 1913 at St Patricks, Anderston. Born 1886 in Glasgow.
(h) William John Clancy Born 25 Aug 1891 in Anderston, Glasgow City, ?Died 1976 in Govan? Married Teresa Frances Barry in 28 Jun 1918 at St. Patricks, Anderston. Born 1896.
2. Susan Clancy Born 30 Oct 1848 in Kinlough, Ireland.
Married William Kyle on 21 Jul 1884 at St Patricks, Anderston. William Born abt 1862 in Glasgow.
They had 3 children:
(a) Mary Kyle Born 3 Aug 1885 at 30 Clyde St, Glasgow, Died bef 1891.
(b) Bridget Kyle Born 3 Aug 1885 at 30 Clyde St, Glasgow. Married George Campbell on 18 Apr 1911.
(c) Francis Joseph Kyle (Frank) Born abt 1890 in Glasgow. Married Annie Duff on 4 Jan 1909.
3. Mary Clancy Bap 25 May 1851 at Kinlough RC Church.
4. Ellen Clancy Bap 23 Aug 1854 at Kinlough RC Church.
5. Charles Clancy, Insurance Agent, Baptised 18 Oct 1856 at Kinlough RC Church. Married Mary McCartin on 21 Feb 1887 at St Patricks. They had 3 Children:
(a) Mary Anne Clancy Born 4 Mar 1890 in Glasgow.
(b) Charles Clancy Born 19 Jan 1892 in Anderston. Married Margaret McGurn on 31 Oct 1913 at St Patricks. Born 1893 in Anderston.
(c) Margaret Clancy Born about 1894 in Anderston. Married Arthur Murphy on 19 Jan 1914 at St Peters, Glasgow. Had son Charles Clancy in 1914 in Anderston.
6. Bridget Clancy Bap 3 Sep 1861 at Kinlough RC Church.
7. Margaret Clancy Bap 3 Sep 1861 at Kinlough RC Church.
8. Edward Clancy Born 23 Dec 1864, Baptised 25 Dec 1864 at Kinlough RC Church. Edward registered fathers death in Apr 1891 and emigrated to America where he Married Elizabeth Monahan (Bessie) on 14 Oct 1894 in Manhattan, New York. They had lived in Manhattan & the Bronx until atleast 1940. They had 5 Children:
(a) Margaret E Clancy Born abt 1895 in New York. Married ? Dolan abt 1924. They had 2 Children.
(b) Edward J Clancy Born abt 1897 in New York. In 1940 when he was still single.
(c) Bessie E Clancy (Elizabeth) Born abt 1904 in New York.
(d) William G Clancy Born abt 1906 in New York. Married Pearl by 1940 when they lived in NY City where William was still a Taxi Driver.
(e) Anna Clancy Born abt 1909 in New York.
9. Elizabeth Clancy Married John Clancy on 22 Nov 1896 at Kinlough RC.
(a) Peter Joseph Clancy Born 10 Feb 1898 in Derryherk, Leitrim.
(b) Edward John Clancy Born 1900.
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One ancient family of the Corca Laidhe are the Meg-Fhlannchaidh, now Clancy or Mac Clancy. O'Donovan wrote in 1849: "The property of the Mac Clanchys was confiscated after the rebellion of 1641, but their name is the prevailing one in (Leitrim) the barony of Dartraidhe, or Rossclogher, to the present day." Their genealogy is in Appendix B of this book:
http://ia700302.us.archive.org/7/items/miscellanyofcelt00celt/miscellanyofcelt00celt.pdf
You might also find this book of interest:
Historical Notes on the Ancient Sept of Clancy/Glancy by Maria Clancy
http://www.clancyhistory.com/clancy-book.asp
If you are inclined to submit to a DNA test you might find yourself genetic cousins to persons named Coffee and Driscoll consistent with the ancient genealogies. Consistent is a key word because I don't want to imply proof when I say that one Clancy already tested does share ancient ancestors with some o'Driscoll and o'Coffey. Therein lies my interest in the Clancy and I hope in time we can define the DNA signature of the ancient MacClanchy, see http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Corca_Laidhe/
Cheers,
Colin
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Fantastic, thanks for the reply. I have been debating doing a Y chromosome surname test for some time. I also bought this amazing book last year, I found it absolutely fasinating. Really looking forward to the book coming out on the Kinlough area and its many (incl. MacClancy) families later this year. I'm currently looking for these items which apparently have info on MacClancy family:
- Land Index Registry of Deeds (maybe at 'www.landdirect.ie'):
Leitrim Vol 25 (1811-1820) & Vol 57 (1739-1810)
Donegal & Sligo Vol 41 (1821-1825) & Vol 42 (1826-1828)
- Royal Irish Academy:
Deeds of Roscommon 1812 M24 & M35
- National Library Ireland:
Leitrim estate rental
Donegal poll of electors 176
Annual Irish Catholic Directory
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Hi Aaron,
The Indexes to Registry of Deeds records are on LDS Film; see http://home.wavecable.com/~colin/genuki/CAV/Deeds/Townlands.html
http://home.wavecable.com/~colin/genuki/CAV/Deeds/Grantors.html
An online index in progress is here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~registryofdeeds/index.html
Once the memorial number of interest is found in the index you can find the memorial on Film.
http://home.wavecable.com/~colin/genuki/CAV/Deeds/Transcripts.html
Landed estate rentals are here:
http://www.findmypast.ie/
Electoral Registers 1837-1838 with some Roger Clancy in Sligo. He appears to be a dealer of some sort on New Bridge Street
http://www.findmypast.ie/
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http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/l/a/James-E-Clancy/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0023.html
This family is strikingly similar to ours only Thomas would have to be Peter Clancy of Kinloughs brother.
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Hi Aaron,
I have found a 12 marker DNA test reported here:
www.familytreedna.com/public/IrelandHeritage/
kit: N49150, name: Clancy, ancestor: Philip Clancy, b.c. 1868, Killavoggy, Ireland
According to Goggle maps Killavoggy is only 6.6 km from Killanummery
Cheers,
Colin
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Have assessed my DNA results through Family Tree DNA. My 37 point test first gave me the result that I was descended from Niall the ancient ruler of Ireland from whom the O'Neil clan is descended and 1 in 12 Irish people. However, after digging through the results and many Irish names I found a close link (genetic distance of two) to three Clancy men and there is a 88% chance we share a common ancestor within the last 300 years. One of these men is 'Willie Joe Clancy' who according to the book "Historical Notes on the Ancient Sept of Clancy/Glancy by Maria Clancy" is descended from James Murragh MaGlannaghy, Chief of Darty who was beheaded in 1642 after a rebellion against the English. They are from the Glenade region of Leitrim/Sligo however.
Much of the Clancy lands of Darty in the north of Leitrim ended up with Cahir Clancy & Mary Fitzgerald (nee Crofton). Cahir was the son of Melaghlen McGlanchie (aka Maelsechlainn) who died in 1603 and left the Darty lands to him. The Doongarbry castle & lands were taken when Meleghlen conquered Teige Og Maglancie in 1590. Cahir became protestant and made a deal with English forces for peace and probably his own legal title to the Darty lands. However their only successor was Catherine (Isabel) who inherited the castle, lands and town of Doongarbry, Tullaghan, totalling 4,000 acres around the parish of Kinlough and Loch Melvin around 1640. This was eventually divided up between families like the Whites, Windsors & Johnsons among others. Perhaps the family was divided amoung the various regions and whether they remained there between 17th century to 19th centuries remains a mystery lost due to the religious persecution of the Catholics of Ireland.
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Slight update on Irish roots: Daughter of Peter & Bridget was Elizabeth Clancy who married John Clancy 26 Nov 1896 at Kinlough RC, the son of Peter Clancy & Kitty McGowan most likely in a desperate bid to keep the family farm in the Clancy name. John first took ownership of the 4.3 Ha Clancy property with a house on the banks of Loch Melvin in Derryherk. When John died 17 Mar 1920, age 72 in Derryherk the farm was in Elizabeth's possession and changed hands to Charles Kerrigan on 13 Jun 1928 and in 1957 to Thomas Kelly who turned the old house into an Office. Records are scarce around so recent of such events so if anyone in Ireland could help we would be excited to get in touch with any family in Ireland and around the world. This information would not have been possible without the help of Maria Wootton (nee Clancy), author of Historical Notes on the Ancient Sept of Clancy/Glancy.
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Aaron, a few Clancys have turned up on my wider family circle however they are from Glenade, (both Aghamore and Drummans). They may be connected but there is a book on all Clancy families in the area.
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Hi I am from Ireland and Elizabeth Clancy who Married John Clancy on 22 Nov 1896 were my great great grandparents
Peter Joseph Clancy Born 10 Feb 1898 in Derryherk, Leitrim was my great grandfather he married Elisha Regan from Boyle Co.Roscommon he died when he was 44 years old leaving 9 children my granny being one of them. I have been to the house at derryhurk it is now in ruins I taken some photos and will try and up load them for you. I have now started trying to dig deeper and I am going to go back to derryhurk in a few weeks to see if there is any info in the local church etc..if u have any questions let me know :-)
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What a gift thanks, have been hoping to find out more about your branch, and to see the home on the Loch that our ancesters lived in!!! I had Maria Wootton (nee Clancy) the author of "Historical notes on the ancient sept of Clancy/Glancy (MacFhlannchadha) of Dartry" helping me with your branch. She was the one who found Elizabeth Clancy, as I could never find her baptism at the family Catholic Church in Kinlough. Once I tracked the family land in the Griffiths Valuation she helped me find records of the home ownership. I'd hoped that Edward John and Peter Joseph hadn't died in WWI/WWII, do you know what happeded to Peter's brother Edward? I have attached all I know so far on your branch before meeting you. Where do you live now and is it near your Clancy family? Looking forward to hearing more and having someone to help locally ;D
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Dear Aaron,
Thank you for all the research you have done into our mutual family connections!
I can contribute to the completion of William John Clancy's (son of William and Margaret) line. I am one of his grandsons.
William was born on 25 September 1891 in Glasgow and was baptised at St Patrick's Anderson on 27 September. He died on 6 September 1968 in Glasgow.
William was married:
(first) to Teresa Frances Barry (1896-1922) on 28 June 1918 at St Patrick's Anderson. They had two children Virginia (1919-1942) who died without children and Margaret (May 1922-September 1922).
(second) to Mary O'Donnell (1899-1979) on 20 February 1924 at St Joseph's Glasgow. They had two children William (1925-1989) who married Patricia Quinn (1930-2003) in 1950 (my parents) and Moira (1928-2015) who married Ralph Mills and who died without children.
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So your a Clancy descended from the line on William's! Well that is just fantastic! I have hoped to get in touch with the branch of family that stayed in Glasgow one day. This photo is from William John Clancy's Navy record off Scotlands People. I found much of the family on this website but I struggled with finding more recent family. Thanks for the info and help finding more on your family.
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Thought I'd add my place in this family tree for those interested. My great great grandad was Charles Peter Clancy who came to New Zealand in 1911 from Anderston, Glasgow with wife Jane Whyte (m1906). He was a Barman and got his first job here in Christchurch with his uncle John O'Neil at the Grosvenor Hotel. His son George Clancy (b1909,d1983), a Salesman & Caretaker and wife Mavis Ellen Cambridge (m1927) had child Ross Frederick Clancy (b1929, d2000). Ross was a Postal Officer, Singer & Sax player who married Nola Ruth Lawton (1952) and had 2 Children, one of who was my father Donald John Clancy (b1955, d1990). Don was Manager of the first Courier company in NZ and died in a vehicle accident in Rotorua, New Zealand.
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Is there a family tree online somewhere for Peter Clancy & do of his descendants have their DNA analysis anywhere. I am on MyHeritage, Ancestry & Gedmatch.
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Hi there, I have a ydna test at familytreedna, and am about to receive my autosomal test from ancestry. I only have the same ancestral tree on there. If you’d like to know more about the tree I’m always happy to trade research. I’ve done heaps and spent lots of money on buying records at rootsireland and scotlandspeople. Let us know what branch your from at least. Thanks.
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AAron,
I am originally from the area known locally as the Loughside, with Kerrigan & Clancy links. I don't think I am connected to the Derryherk Clancys, but I have connections to some of the other people mentioned in the thread. However most people in the Loughside area are connected in some way so it will be interesting to see if we come up with a DNA match. I also suggest that you download your DNA raw data from Ancestry & upload it to other sites, particularly Gedmatch. Do you know if the Derryherk Clancys were connected to the Laureen Clancys? Also wondering if anyone has spoken to the current owner of the land. I understand we shouldn't mention names of living people in this forum. I received your PM but I don't seem to be able to reply to you by PM. Can you PM your email address to me.
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Hi Michael, I haven't been able to reply privately but I'd love to keep in touch. You can get in contact via Removed. Would love to share info and family stories but generally just connect if I ever make it to Scotland and Ireland. Hope all is well, Aaron
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Regards
Sarah
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Hello Aaron - My name is John Edward Clancy, I think we are on adjoining Y DNA paths in the Y-DNA Block Tree. My GG Grandfather was Pat Clancy, born 1846 in Glenfarne / Cloonclare not far from Derryherk. His parents were James Clancy and Anne McMannus. Anne travelled with her family to Boston in 1854, the oldest son was Dennis, a sailor. I have a couple of paper trail items establishing that much, but that's as far back as I can go. I have a Facebook group called Clancy Cousins of County Leitrim Ireland you would be very welcome to join.
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Welcome to RootsChat, JEC :)
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Some links to statements from earlier in the thread-
…Elizabeth Clancy who Married John Clancy on 22 Nov 1896...
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1896/10507/5826796.pdf
…Peter Joseph Clancy Born 10 Feb 1898 in Derryherk, Leitrim
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1898/02095/1798317.pdf
Derryherk townland
https://www.townlands.ie/leitrim/rosclogher/rossinver/gubacreeny/derryherk/
When John died 17 Mar 1920, age 72 in Derryherk...
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1920/05123/4409790.pdf
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Some more links to earlier text-
Peter Clancy, Farmer, Died 12 Apr 1891 at about age 60, as farmer of Derryherk since atleast 1857..
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1891/06072/4731220.pdf
Married Bridget Gilaspie/Gillespie (Biddy) on 3 Feb 1845 in Kinlough, Leitrim, Died 14 Aug 1898 in Derryherk.
Her death record 1898
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1898/05821/4648062.pdf
Edward Clancy Born 23 Dec 1864, Baptised 25 Dec 1864 at Kinlough RC Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03585/2321286.pdf