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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Angus (Forfarshire) => Topic started by: Fkelleyf on Sunday 04 December 11 19:21 GMT (UK)
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Hello,
I'm trying to locate information on my grandfather's family who lived in Kirremuir.
William Wood immigrated from Ireland at some point between 1943 - 1978
Margaret McIntosh [born 1886] married William Wood January 28, 1879
Her maiden name was Findlay, I believe her mother was Jessie or Janet
Their children were William born 1880, Alexander Findlay born 1882, Margaret & Mary.
Alexander married Jean Bell; Mary married [unknown] Taylor.
I've worked with Scotlandspeople and they have been very helpful, but I haven't been able to find out what happend to my great grandfather after 1881. He's not listed on the 1891 census where Margaret is listed has head of family.
Any guidance would be most appreciated.
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat
Margaret McIntosh [born 1886] married William Wood January 28, 1879
Can you clarify Margaret's birthyear please
William Wood immigrated from Ireland at some point between 1943 - 1978
I think you mean 1843 and 1878 but what year was William born
What is his occupation on the marriage cert/1881 census
Margaret McIntosh [born 1886] married William Wood January 28, 1879
Her maiden name was Findlay
Was Margaret previously married?
Where was she born
Where were the children born and where was Margaret living in 1891 as I can't find an 1891 entry that fits the profile given nor can I find them in 1881
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Hi,
Is this them in 1891 living at 17 Watson Street, Dundee
William Wood 48 Head born England gen lab
Margaret Wood 37 wife born Kirriemuir, Forfarshire
William Wood 10 son born Dundee
Alexander Wood 9 son born Dundee
Mary Jane Wood 3 daub orn Dundee
Margaret Wood 8 months dau born Dundee
1881 living at 63 Blackscroft, Dundee
William Wood 37 Head born England wood yard lab
Margaret Wood 27 wife born Kirriemuir, Forfarshire
William Wood 3 months son born Dundee
1901 living at 18 Kirkwynd, Kirriemuir
Margaret Wood 44 Head born born Kirriemuir, Forfarshire
Alexander Wood 19 son born Dundee
Mary Wood 13 dau born Dundee
Maggie Wood 10 born Dundee
Sharon
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SP has the following deaths for William Wood
1893 aged 48, St Mary Dundee (this is a strong possibility).
1893 aged 59, Forfar Angus
1900 aged 63, Forfar Angus
Sharon
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Hi Sharon & Carol,
Yes those are the census entries for my Wood family members. I'll do some more research on the death dates. Another possibility is that he left for America. I know both sons immigrated, Alexander in 1906 [via Canada]. I haven't been able to locate the date of arrival for my grandfather [son William] yet. Alex was going to his brother William in NYC.
William was a private with the 50th Foot at the time of his marriage. He was born in 1843 and came to Scotland at some point between his birth and his marriage to Margaret. I have to do some more research on the military angle, as that might have been why he was in Scotland. At 36, I would have thought he'd be married with children. Their marriage license lists his as a bachelor.
I haven't been able to locate Margaret's month and day of birth, and she is listed as a "spinster" on their marriage document. Her father was Charles & her mother Jessie [could this possibly be Janet?]. I did locate a Margaret McIntosh living with her great aunt and a Alexander Findlay [visitor] and Janet. Findlay was Margaret's mother's maiden name.
Thank you both for all your help. It's been very difficult tracking a man with such a common name. I've come to really appreciate middle names...sigh.
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Hi
A bit confused --you say that William was not with the family in 1891 but have now confirmed that the 1891 census found by Sharon is the correct one - with William in it
He's not listed on the 1891 census where Margaret is listed has head of family.
You also say William immigrated from Ireland but the census entry shows birthplace as England
I had discounted that 1891 entry in view of what you said as the info did not fit
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Hi Carol,
Yes, I misspoke with regard to the 1891 census. I should have said the 1901 census, where Margaret is listed as head of family. I was told by a distant relative who knew my Uncle Alexander that his father, William1 [as I refer to him] was Irish.
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Thanks for the suggestions Sharon. It turns out that the William Wood who was deceased in 1893 aged 48 [St Mary Dundee] was single. His parents were David and Helen. I know from his marriage registration that my William1 parents were William and Mary.
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A few bits on Margaret McIntosh and her family ...
I think her birth registered at Kirriemuir 16 Apr 1858 as 'Margaret Peter Finlay', mother Janet Finlay, no father listed - this from IGI, check out original on SP to be sure
1861 census - as you had found - Margaret McIntosh living with her Great Aunt, Margaret Peter, Alexander Findlay, Janet Find/lay her mother, in Kirk Wynd, Kirriemuir
1865 - Janet Find/lay marries William Peacock in Dundee, they have a daughter Barbara Duncan Peacock (see Ancestry for family trees for her)
1866 - Janet Find/lay Peacock, mother of 'your' Margaret McIntosh dies in Dundee
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Wow...thank you Gali for this information. This is definitely my Margaret McIntosh. The Peacock name is listed on Margaret's marriage registration.
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I've just been looking at the marriage cert, it's not the clearest of handwriting from the registrar! What do you think the names of the witnesses are? David Blackwell or Bracewell and Maria or Mary Farquhar or Ferguson? And what is William Wood's mother's maiden name - Finch? Firmin? Very difficult to read ...
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Hi Gali,
I haven't been able to decipher my g-grandfather's mother's maiden name either, even with the SP copy I ordered. I see a F and two i's with an n. I ran it through the surname list and came up with a couple of possibilities. It's a dead end for now, until I can confirm where they came from.
I read the first witness as David Blackwell and the second witness as Mary Ferguson. I'm not sure if they were friends or just people from the registrar's office. I've had very little luck researching my grandfather William1 or g-grandfather [William-1]. Most of what I've found is by tracking their brother/son Alexander Findlay Wood and culling from that information.
Her story (as I've pieced together so far) makes me sad. A lot of abandonment in one form or another from various family members. I've spoken to a distant relative who knew my Uncle Alex and even he didn't have anything nice to say about his mother. I have a photo taken of her in the early 1900's and she looks completely beaten down.
Thanks again for all you help with this.
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Yes, I have ancestors in my tree who seem to have had lives blighted by sadness, although I suppose the picture we have of them can only ever be incomplete, it's all compelling stuff trying to find out more about them.
I have had no luck finding Margaret on the 1871 census. It looks as if she died in 1943 in Kirriemuir.
It looks as though her daughter, Mary Jane was married in 1908 to a David Taylor in Kirriemuir, potential 1911 census entry for them in Tannadice. David Taylor is the next of kin on the death cert for Margaret.
I note from his marriage cert that William was living at Dudhope Barracks at the time of his marriage in 1879, interestingly this was the last year that the buildings there were used as a barracks.
I've looked at this site http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ and found a couple of potential stories relating to William:
Dundee Courier and Argus, Oct 22 1889 - William Wood, labourer, Watson St (same address as per 1891 census) before Dundee Police Court
Dundee Courier, Nov 22 1892 - William Wood, labourer, Lilybank Road (which backs onto/continues into Watson St) before Dundee Police Court
It might be worth speaking with Dundee Archives team to find out if there are records still in existence from the Police Court?
PM me your email address and I'll send you copies of the above.
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Morning Gali,
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