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My grandmother sailed from Liverpool, England on the SS Vedic. I am trying to find any records. She was born 12/12/1901. Trying to find any history. her name was Florence Edith May Yates.
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Hi there and welcome to Rootschat :)
I'm guessing that your grandmother was a single lady when she emigrated to Australia? I can't see a birth for her under the surname Yates in England. I'm wondering if perhaps she was Irish? Any idea of her parents' names? Dazey
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Have you got her maiden name? There is nothing in the out going passenger lists for Florence Yates.
VEDIC (White Star Line) did make several voyages to Australia in 1928.
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hi , and welcome to rootschat .
i,ve looked in passenger lists leaving england using the info you,ve given and there are no records for a florence yates on the ship vedic but there is a pos for a florence yates born 1901 occ nurse leaving on the 26 march 1925 for sydney on the ship sophocles ,
can you give us more info on your florence please .
regards
trevor
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Australian Archives website has Florence Yates arriving in Sydney on 14 Nov 1928 from Liverpool on board the Verdic
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VEDIC sailed from the Mersey 6th October 1928 for Sydney. Arrived back in UK 4th Feb 1929 at Hull.
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Hi Guys,
Thanks so much for your help. Florence was single. For some reason she lied about her age for many years.She married in Sydney, Australia & even her husband thought she was younger. She was born in Poplar, England. Although Barking & Hornchurch were only ever mentioned. Her home address was 57 Garford street, Barking. She had an older sister Emma & brother Joe who was younger. Emma never married. Joe married Sarah & they had a daughter Josephine Patricia, who had 3 children & was divorced. I think the ship stopped in Perth. She arrived in Sydney 28 Nov, 1928. I think it stopped in Fremantle 14 Nov, 1928. There was a lot of secrecy about her past & I think something terrible happened prior to her departure which made her leave the UK. Wish I knew more.
Regards.
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She lied about her 'age.'
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Hi,
I think I've found Florence on a passenger list,
Ship: VEDIC
Date of departure: 6 October 1928
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Sydney, Australia
Miss Florence YATES
Last address in UK: 32 St Johns Road, Barking, Essex
3rd Class
Age: 23
Occupation: Domestic
Regards,
Daisy
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Did Florence marry John F HANNA in 1930? If so this looks like her death cert. info,
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ikr/
which gives her parent's names as Joseph and Florence. Do you have either of the certificates?
I found this death and will info,
Joseph YATES Mar Q 1932 Romford 4a 724
Age: 65
YATES Joseph of 32 St Johns Road Barking Essex died 30 March 1932. Probate London 18 May to Emma YATES widow. Effects £1008 8s. 1d.
This address fits the passenger list, but who is Emma, a second wife perhaps? Or could the death info be incorrect?
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We aren't allowed to do 1911 census transcriptions here because of copyright. I can find the family at Ancestry but I can't seem to find them by name, address or piece number at Findmypast ??? the Garford Street you mention seems to be in Poplar not Barking. Joseph seems to be married to Emma.
This looks like the family in 1901, at the same address but although the image does show Joseph to be 24 I think he should be 34 as he is 44 in 1911,
RG13/355 f.154 p.45 Poplar
69 Garford St
Joseph YATES Head 24 Blacksmiths Hammerman Limehouse
Emma Wife 31 Stepney
Emma Daur 2 "
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Checking Emma's birth on FreeBMD shows she was registered in Stepney District. There is a birth for Florence Yates registered in the Sept quarter 1904, so perhaps she didn't lie about her age ;D
Colin
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In 1911 Florence is shown as 2 and Girlwithacurl say Florence's birthdate was 12/12/1901, so I wondered about this birth reg,
Florence YATES Mar Q 1902 Poplar 1c 646
I think these are the christenings for Emma and Florence,
Emma YATES
St James, Ratcliffe
Baptism Date: 7 May 1899
Born: Apr 15
Parents: Joseph & Emma
36 Bromley St
Hammerman
Florence YATES
St James, Ratcliffe
Baptism Date: 5 Jan 1902
Born: Dec 12
Parents: Joseph & Emma
59 Garford St
Engineer
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Apologies for delay in replying...computer issues. Florence's parents were def Joseph & Emma. I will blame my Aunty B..I'm pretty sure she would have supplied details when Nan died. Another Aunt has confirmed Josep & Sarah is correct & it matches other doc's. You are like a detective 8)
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I am also looking for information on passengers on the SS Vedic. My Grandmother came to Australia on the SS Vedic with the Salvation Army. I am finding it hard to determine when she left England, and when she arrived in Sydney. I think she left on the 17th Dec 1926 but not sure if that is correct and do not know when she arrived in Sydney. Her name was Sybil Knight. aged 19 years at the time she left England.
Any help would be great
Jackie
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Hello and welcome to Rootschat.
You are correct with the sailing date from London. Your Grandmother is listed as a "Domestic" contract passenger number 711, He last address is somewhat smudged but looks like 35 Portland Street?
I understand VEDIC arrived Sydney NSW Thursday 4/Feb/1927.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=vedic&dateFrom=1926-01-01&dateTo=1927-12-31
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Jackie, if you haven't already seen it, the file for that journey of the Vedic is here:
http://soda.naa.gov.au/record/467911/1
Sybil is listed on page 21 as a Canberra Domestic.
The reports of the Welfare Officer and Matron are always interesting reading.
"Passengers and Stewards will talk to girls, and unless one takes a very firm stand from the beginning it would be a hopeless task to expect discipline."
Imagine having to go for that long onboard a ship without talking to anyone except the other girls :P
Debra :)
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Thank you all for your help. My Grandmother's first assignment was at a house in Mt Stromlow in Canberra. She was a little unsure about dates when i asked her a few years before she died.