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Title: andrew barnett
Post by: coralreef on Wednesday 11 January 12 20:28 GMT (UK)
I am looking for the parents of Andrew Barnett born in1832 at Stoke on Turn Shropshire
I have found him in 1841 cencus nine years old he died in 1913
I also have his marriage cert 1855 to Ann Fox can anyone please help
Coralreef
Title: Re: andrew barnett
Post by: suzard on Wednesday 11 January 12 20:32 GMT (UK)
What is his father's name and occupation on the marriage cert?

Who were witnesses -sometimes they are family members

Suz
Title: Re: andrew barnett
Post by: charlotteCH on Wednesday 11 January 12 20:39 GMT (UK)
As well as Suz point about father's name on marriage cert., isn't it in 1841 census as the household he was in etc?

charlotte
Title: Re: andrew barnett
Post by: suzard on Wednesday 11 January 12 20:48 GMT (UK)
1841 census doesn't give relationships -but this looks like him in 1851
Stoke Heath Stoke on Tern Salop

Elizabeth Barnett Head widow 86 Maintained by son Eccleston Staffs
William Barnett son U ag lab Lee Bridge Salop
Mary Barnett daughter U 39 dressmaker Lee Bridge Salop
ANDREW BARNESS relative U 17 Sawyer Stoke Salop
HO107 1996 449 21

If there is no father's name on birth cert -maybe Andrew was illegit -and possibly mary his mother ???
Just guesswork


Suz
Title: Re: andrew barnett
Post by: charlotteCH on Wednesday 11 January 12 20:55 GMT (UK)
Suz, you are quite correct about 1841 census and relationships :-[

From 1851 it is possible that Mary is the mother.   The birth cert. should clear that up.

charlotte
Title: Re: andrew barnett
Post by: suzard on Wednesday 11 January 12 20:56 GMT (UK)
another possibility - have you noticed in 1841 there is a Robert and Hannah Barnet living next door but one - and Andrew is with the same "relatives"???

1841 Stoke Heath
Stoke on Tern Salop
Elizabeth Barnet 65 ind N
Mary 25 Y
William 25 ag lab Y
Andrew ( Y

next but 2

Robert Barnet 35 Sawyer Y (Andrew also became a Sawyer)
Hannah 25 Y
Edwin 2 Y
HHarriet 4mth Y
HO107 901 11 10 13

Suz
Title: Re: andrew barnett
Post by: suzard on Wednesday 11 January 12 20:58 GMT (UK)
From 1851 it is possible that Mary is the mother.   The birth cert. should clear that up.

charlotte

There will not be a birth cert - registration did not begin until Sept qtr 1837

It's the baptism we need to find - hopefully coralreef will provide us with the information from the marriage cert, too

Suz
Title: Re: andrew barnett
Post by: charlotteCH on Wednesday 11 January 12 21:06 GMT (UK)
 :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: andrew barnett
Post by: coralreef on Wednesday 11 January 12 21:12 GMT (UK)
Sorry I should have written his father was Andrew on marriage cert
I thought birthcerts started 1837 five years after his birth
Title: Re: andrew barnett
Post by: suzard on Wednesday 11 January 12 21:15 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Birth reg's began sept qtr 1837 - but not everyone registered then.

What was Andrew (the father's ) occupation and who were witnesses at the marriage ???

Suz
Title: Re: andrew barnett
Post by: coralreef on Wednesday 11 January 12 21:38 GMT (UK)
His father was a labourer
witnesses Dan William Evans
George Plant
this one was from his wifes family surname Fox I cannot read the christian name