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Title: Alfred & Charlotte Mitchell
Post by: caseyjo on Friday 13 January 12 23:21 GMT (UK)
Hello

I am looking for information on Alfred Mitchell Oct 1, 1845-Jan 27, 1934. Alfred died Denbighshire & his wife Charlotte 1847-Feb 6, 1930 died Conway Caenarvonshire.
Both are buried in Sale, Cheshire.

Possible to get a directory lookup or any other info? Alfred was a tailor and have tracked him from Manchester to Sale to Denbighsire.

Thank you
caseyjo
Title: Re: Alfred & Charlotte Mitchell
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 14 January 12 00:11 GMT (UK)
Hi

The 1901 shows Alfred was b Hulme and Charlotte was b Bootle - both Lancs

No children with them in 1901 or 1881

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Possible to get a directory lookup or any other info

You have their addresses from census entries - are you looking to see if he had a business address as well?

When did they move to Wales?  What other info are you looking for?
Title: Re: Alfred & Charlotte Mitchell
Post by: caseyjo on Saturday 14 January 12 03:34 GMT (UK)
Hello

I have them in Bucklow in 1911 so it was after that they went to Wales. They never had children. I was wondering if he had business there as he was a master tailor. I am curious as to why he went to Wales. He is listed in the 2 following directories so it was after 1913 he went to Wales.
1901 Directory:
Alfred MITCHELL, tailor 82 Portland St.
residence 96 Northenden Road, Sale
1913 Directory:
82 Portland St
Alfred MITCHELL, tailor
Title: Re: Alfred & Charlotte Mitchell
Post by: wrjones on Saturday 14 January 12 14:05 GMT (UK)
There could be a simple explanation as to why he came to Wales?He may have come in retirement.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Alfred & Charlotte Mitchell
Post by: wrjones on Saturday 14 January 12 14:09 GMT (UK)
He did leave quite a considerable amount of money for the time.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Alfred & Charlotte Mitchell
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 14 January 12 15:22 GMT (UK)
Interesting that Probate was granted in Manchester. I'm not all that up on probate locations at that time but would that indicate that the bulk of his estate was in the Manchester (Sale) area?

I see sub-registries at Liverpool, Manchester and Cardiff



gnu
Title: Re: Alfred & Charlotte Mitchell
Post by: caseyjo on Saturday 14 January 12 21:56 GMT (UK)
Alfred was originally from Manchester, than went to Sale. He then went to Wales for reasons unknown, perhaps retirement but he and his wife both died in Wales and are buried in Sale. Alfred originally had family in Manchester areas as well so  and I am trying to track them now but he must have made up his will before he went to Sale if probated in Manchester.

Thank you everyone
caseyjo
Title: Re: Alfred & Charlotte Mitchell
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 14 January 12 22:04 GMT (UK)
A Mr A Baker, formerly steel works superintendent is mentioned as an executor - maybe a relative :-\  The other person is probably his banker.
Title: Re: Alfred & Charlotte Mitchell
Post by: caseyjo on Monday 16 January 12 02:30 GMT (UK)
My next step is to get a copy of the will and take it from there.

Thank you everyone
caseyjo
Title: Re: Alfred & Charlotte Mitchell
Post by: caseyjo on Tuesday 17 January 12 01:38 GMT (UK)
I have a copy now of Alfred's probate. Where would I now send for a death certificate for him?

Thank you
caseyjo
Title: Re: Alfred & Charlotte Mitchell
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 17 January 12 08:37 GMT (UK)
Hi

You can order online if you have the full GRO reference:  March q, 1934, Conway, vol 11b page 654

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/


gnu
Title: Re: Alfred & Charlotte Mitchell
Post by: caseyjo on Tuesday 17 January 12 12:26 GMT (UK)
Hello

I already knew this part, my mistake but Thank you. The question should of been where do I obtain a copy of the will? I assume more than likely from Manchester but would it all be from the same place in hte UK to order copies of the will?

Thank you
caseyjo
Title: Re: Alfred & Charlotte Mitchell
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 17 January 12 12:39 GMT (UK)
Hi

Details are buried in here:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/wills-and-probate-records.htm

Look for Wills after 1858.

I've ordered the few that I needed from Leeds (address given in the link)  and it takes a while!


gnu
Title: Re: Alfred & Charlotte Mitchell
Post by: caseyjo on Tuesday 17 January 12 15:28 GMT (UK)
I have filled out the applications to the best of my knowledge and will get them sent away. How long does it take to receive the copies?  I am in Canada so assume a few weeks?

Thanks
caseyjo
Title: Re: Alfred & Charlotte Mitchell
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 17 January 12 16:10 GMT (UK)
It took 6 weeks when I last got one and I was in UK  :-\

gnu