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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: Mayne711 on Sunday 12 February 12 01:32 GMT (UK)
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I am trying to figure out my heritage.
William Isaac Payne(1876) parents were Smith Payne (1843-1897) & Elizabeth Blake (1852-1924)
But I can't find much information on William Isaac Payne.
He was married a couple times, but can't find much info on them either.
Does anyone have William Isaac Payne in their family tree & have any information on them?
Thank you,
~Lori
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Dear Lori,
Welcome to Rootschat.
Do you know where William Isaac PAYNE was born?
Cheers, Ted
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I believe he was born in Remington, IN.
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My grandmother was Gertrude Payne > (her father was) William Isaac Payne > (his father was) Smith Payne.
William Isaac Payne is my biggest problem.
He lived in both IN & NY.
He was married a couple times with a child from the two marriages that I know of, but can’t verify the wife’s names.
I believe William died in NY, but I can’t find his death date or resting place.
His son William "Billy" died as a teenager, can’t find anything on him either. I believe his mothers name was Crable {aka “Mable” (unk maiden from Maine)} Payne
William Isaac’s other child was Gertrude Lillian Payne. Her mother was Ida Shaw from Ireland. May have been an actress. Sometime after Gertrude’s birth, they divorced & Ida returned to Ireland.
Gertrude was an unruly child. William shipped Gertrude to live with his mother Elizabeth Blake Payne to raise in Remington, IN area.
Thank you for your time, or any information you would be willing to share with me.
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There is a US Passport application for William Isaac Payne.
William Isaac Payne
Born 6 Apr 1876 - Remington, Indiana and aged 46 years
Residence: 39 Edgewood Park. New Rochelle, New York. Occupation:- Insurance
Needed the passport to go to England on Commercial Business - leaving NY August 1922 on SS Baltic.
Passport Issue Date was 4 Aug 1922 (with photograph)
Sandra
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William 1905 - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/SPNW-Q5Z
William Isaac Payne with wife Mabel and 2 children in 1910 (indicates this was a 2nd marriage for both - marriued 10 years)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M544-KT9
Sandra
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Living in Edgewood Park New Rochelle Ward 4, Westchester, New York in 1920
William Payne 45 Born Indiana. Roomer. Manager Insurance.
Mable Payne 54 Born Maine.
William Payne 15 Born NY.
Sandra
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Aaah - see you have most of the info on your anc tree.
Death record for a William I Payne - May 1934 Manhattan - aged 58 years ???
William I Payne 58 y May 19 1934 12557 Manhattan
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0k7a/
Sandra
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There was a death notice in the New York Times that indicated Mabel P. Payne died 23 Feb. 1937 at New York Infirmary. It says internment private.
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On www.fultonhistory.com, there is a death notice in the Sun and New York Herald for William I. Payne, son of William & Mabel, who died at New Rochelle on 26 Feb. 1920 in his 16th year. Funeral services at Trinity Church, New Rochelle.
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There was a death notice in the New York Times that indicated Mabel P. Payne died 23 Feb. 1937 at New York Infirmary. It says internment private.
Seems to fit with - http://www.rootschat.com/links/0k7d/
Mabel G Payne - 70 y Feb 23 1937 5164 Manhattan
Sandra
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THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!!
Regarding your last post:
there is a death notice in the Sun and New York Herald for William I. Payne, son of William & Mabel, who died at New Rochelle on 26 Feb. 1920 in his 16th year. Funeral services at Trinity Church, New Rochelle.
I have been searching the site, but haven't found the death notice yet. What is the secret search phrase?
I've used: William I. Payne
William & Mabel
Death notice 26 Feb 1920
~Lori
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If you do a search for the exact phrase William I. and Mabel Payne, it should be the first result that comes up.
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THANK YOU!
I will try to locate any additional information on Billy!
Norman Rockwell Museum requested that I send them the actual date of death.
They didn't have any records back in the day on Billy, not even his date of death.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!
~Lori
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How about your reference to:
There was a death notice in the New York Times that indicated Mabel P. Payne died 23 Feb. 1937 at New York Infirmary.
It says internment private.
I can't pull this up from fultonhistory.com
~Lori
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That wasn't on fultonhistory.com. It's on a subscription site, or it can be seen for a fee at the New York Times archives.
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Would you mind sharing which pay site?
I would like to see it.
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~Lori
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Billy died 26 Feb 1920 in his 16th year.
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ew York Tribune
Saturday, February 28, 1920
Page 17
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The Sun and New York Herald
Saturday, February 28, 1920
Page 7
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