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Title: The last sibling
Post by: Simon Mead on Saturday 24 March 12 06:00 GMT (UK)
Further to a post in 'Deciphering & Recognition' - 1911 census - birth place - I wonder if anyone can offer any suggestions/advice/assistance as to where I might go now?

My paternal grandfather had 9 siblings and we have managed to trace the descendants of all but one and it was the post referred to that I hoped would help me to trace the descendants of the 10th.

The post I refer to enabled me to trace the wife - Mary Ann GREEN - of one of my grand uncles. He was William Thomas MEAD, born in Oxgate, Hendon in 1878. He served in the Boer War and re-enlisted for WW1. He married Mary in 1915, and he died in County Kildare in 1917. He left behind a daughter Marjorie S MEAD born in Salisbury in 1916. It's Marjorie - and any of her descendants - that I was hoping to find.

I can find no record of her after her birth. I entertained the idea that Mary re-married and Marjorie took her new father's name but can find no record of Mary re-marrying. In fact the only record I can find after 1917 is the death of a Mary Ann MEAD in Devizes, Wiltshire in March 1932. She was 55 at the time of her death which would make her birth date right for 'our' Mary.

I don't know if there is anywhere else I can look, anything else I can do which is why I'm asking those with far more experience than I for suggestions.

Simon
Title: Re: The last sibling
Post by: Wiggy on Saturday 24 March 12 06:09 GMT (UK)
Have you looked in old papers for any evidence of her marriage - (I am having trouble with my own family from the 20th century and it is because many of the records are too recent to be online - and I have to rely on past newspapers for information.)   

Born 1916 so her marriage if any, wouldn't be until about 1936-ish - give or take a couple.  Might be worth a go!  Also newspapers often give lots of information about other family members.   If I knew how to access British newspapers I'd look, but . . . . .    :-\     

Wiggy     ;)

Edit to add     Seems British records come up to much more recently than Australian records - - so, if she stayed in UK, it should be there shouldn't it? 

Title: Re: The last sibling
Post by: Wiggy on Saturday 24 March 12 06:16 GMT (UK)
Try this site - it means a long trawl but  - good luck!

http://www.bl.uk/reshelp/findhelprestype/news/blnewscoll/

Wiggy    :)
Title: Re: The last sibling
Post by: Simon Mead on Saturday 24 March 12 08:03 GMT (UK)
How do you suggest I use the site?  ??? ???
Title: Re: The last sibling
Post by: Pels. on Saturday 24 March 12 08:23 GMT (UK)




You could try this one until someone comes up with another solution :

http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/

I've had the quickest of looks, but you might do better !  :) :)

Kind regards,

Pels.
Title: Re: The last sibling
Post by: suzard on Saturday 24 March 12 11:07 GMT (UK)
there is this marriage reg which may/may not be of interest???

Edwin L C Mitchell
Marjorie S D Mead or Halstaff
Mere
Wilts
7c 937

Suz
Title: Re: The last sibling
Post by: suzard on Saturday 24 March 12 11:14 GMT (UK)
It looks like \marjorie was the 3rd wife of Ewdin Leslie C Mitchell

His birth was reg Dec qtr 1905 Amersham Bucks 3a 141

and death

Leslie C Mitchell
born 16 Oct 1905
death reg Mar 1975
age 70
Shrewsbury
Salop
30 0278

don't know if this will help or confuse???

Suz
Title: Re: The last sibling
Post by: heywood on Saturday 24 March 12 11:31 GMT (UK)
there is this marriage reg which may/may not be of interest???

Edwin L C Mitchell
Marjorie S D Mead or Halstaff
Mere
Wilts
7c 937

Suz

There is a birth for a Marjorie S D Halstaff in Devon
Title: Re: The last sibling
Post by: andycand on Saturday 24 March 12 11:37 GMT (UK)
Hi

Marjorie S D MEAD is not the person Simon is looking for. Marjorie S D was born Marjorie S D Halstaff and married Wilard W MEAD in 1931

Andy
Title: Re: The last sibling
Post by: Simon Mead on Saturday 24 March 12 12:30 GMT (UK)
Yes, that one had me going to. I would have mentioned it but thought it too complicated! :-[
Title: Re: The last sibling
Post by: heywood on Saturday 24 March 12 12:53 GMT (UK)
Hi

Marjorie S D MEAD is not the person Simon is looking for. Marjorie S D was born Marjorie S D Halstaff and married Wilard W MEAD in 1931

Andy

I know - that is why I posted. :)  Sorry, I thought it would be more clear.
Title: Re: The last sibling
Post by: Simon Mead on Saturday 24 March 12 21:05 GMT (UK)
Gerald Ashworth? Father used to deliver bread in Whitworth? Asks Patricia Mead (nee Mudd)

Title: Re: The last sibling
Post by: softly softly on Monday 26 March 12 15:03 BST (UK)
Simon,
Couple of questions. Do you know the second christian name of Marjorie "S" Mead born 1916. You also state that you found in Devies the death that fits your Mary A Mead aged 55. Do you know her exact birth date, as there are approx 7 deaths that could easily fit the critria you have posted.

John
Title: Re: The last sibling
Post by: Simon Mead on Monday 26 March 12 22:10 BST (UK)
No, I don't know Marjorie's middle name, all the information that I have has been obtained without access to certificates and, obviously, I'd have to get copies of them to absolutely confirm what I believe to be:

This is the chronology as I see it. I have more data on William but no further information about Mary or Marjorie.

Mary Ann GREEN b Dec 1878 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire - Abergavenny 11a 71. Parents George and Jane b 1858.

1881 Census aged 2 living at home

1901 living at home, aged 22. Siblings Louisa, Thomas, Alice.

1915, September married William MEAD Paddington 1a 75. (Married at William's home?)

1916, December Marjorie S MEAD born Salisbury 5a 245.

1917, December William Thomas MEAD dies.

1932, March Mary A MEAD d. aged 55 (born 1877/78) Devizes 5a 139.

No further trace of Marjorie as yet.

Simon
Title: Re: The last sibling
Post by: andycand on Wednesday 28 March 12 04:33 BST (UK)
Hi

As has been mentioned in another forum Mary Ann GREEN is the daughter of Adam Ferguson GREEN, a gardener. (the marriage certificate is on Ancestry in London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 as is the 1911 marriage of her brother Adam GREEN.

Mary Ann GREEN was born c1880 in Clyne, Sutherlandshire, Scotland according to the 1881 Scottish Census (1891 Scottish census has birthplace Rogart, Sutherlandshire) She is the daughter of Adam Ferguson GREEN and Annie (probably Ann DUNCAN) who married in Forres, Morayshire, Scotland 3rd August 1867.

This would mean that the Mary Ann GREEN is the one in the 1911 census for Landford Lodge amd her place of birth that we had so much difficulty decifering is in fact Inverness, Invernessshire written badly. It is not uncommon for a person living a long way from home to give the nearest large town as place of birth rather than some tiny village.

One thing to consider now is whether, having been left a widow with a small child, could she have moved back to Scotland

Andy
Title: Re: The last sibling
Post by: andycand on Wednesday 28 March 12 05:38 BST (UK)
Hi

There is a marriage in Scotland that might be of interest.

1940 Marjorie Sybil MEAD.

I haven't amy credits for Scotlandspeople so can't see who she married and where she married. Also the marriage is too recent to download but you could see if anyone in Scotland visiting one of the locations where the registers are accessable could look up the marriage details for you. Scottish marriages are good in that they name both sets of parents.

Andy

Edited to add that the 1940 marriage was in Inverness.
Title: Re: The last sibling
Post by: Simon Mead on Wednesday 28 March 12 07:27 BST (UK)
This is doing my head in, not sure that I'm cut out for all this 'juggling'.

I think you've nailed it though Andy, deep in the recesses of family memory is the thought that Marjorie married a MATHESON. Following your trail I found, on Scotland's People, that she'd married Wiliam James MATHESON. Not only that but the same family folklorist (?!?!) had a vague recall of the name *. There is a birth for * in Inverness in 1943.

So now the hunt can begin in earnest! All being well * would be a spry 68, not unlike myself (I wish), so there is a chance that he's out there.

I'll take a couple of Aspro and try and think what to try next!

Simon

*details of possibly living person removed in accordance with Rootschat policy. Please send infmation which may involve living people by PM rather than posted on the boards.
Title: Re: The last sibling
Post by: andycand on Thursday 29 March 12 00:12 BST (UK)
This is doing my head in, not sure that I'm cut out for all this 'juggling'.

I think you've nailed it though Andy, deep in the recesses of family memory is the thought that Marjorie married a MATHESON. Following your trail I found, on Scotland's People, that she'd married Wiliam James MATHESON. Not only that but the same family folklorist (?!?!) had a vague recall of the name *. There is a birth for * in Inverness in 1943.

I'll take a couple of Aspro and try and think what to try next!

Simon

*details of possibly living person removed in accordance with Rootschat policy. Please send infmation which may involve living people by PM rather than posted on the boards.

I think it might be an idea to update any forum on which you have raised the question of Marjorie MEAD so that people don't spend time duplicating information already found.

Andy