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Title: ALexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: maddiewillis on Sunday 01 April 12 20:38 BST (UK)
Hello, I am trying to trace Alexander McKenzie believed born 1821 at Strathconnon Parish of Contin. I also believe he was married on the 30.12.1853 at Urray. Any information on Alexander's birth and marraige details would be very helpful.
Thanks Maddie
Title: Alexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: maddiewillis on Sunday 01 April 12 20:48 BST (UK)
Hello, I am researching Alexander McKenzie,born 1821 in Strathconnon, Parish of Contin. I am looking for his date of borth and also his parents name. I believe he was married in Urray on the 30.12.1853 to Isabella McRae. Any information would be helpful.
Thanks. Maddie
Title: Re: ALexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 01 April 12 20:49 BST (UK)
Hi

He married Isabella MacRae according to the IGI entry

Because they married before 1855 - you may get very little useful info from the marriage entry - this is from the Scotlands People website

Quote
INFORMATION IN AN OPR BANNS & MARRIAGES RECORD

Do not expect too much from OPR banns & marriages records. The amount of information recorded can be variable and most entries contain very little detail.

At best: date(s) of the proclamation of intended marriage and/or date of marriage, names of bride and groom and their parish of residence, sometimes the occupation of the groom and occasionally the name of the bride's father.
At worst:the names of the bride and groom recorded along with the fee paid in caution.


You would be better looking for his death cert as that will give you his parents names and his mothers maiden name

Do you know when he died?
Title: Re: ALexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 01 April 12 20:55 BST (UK)
Have I got the right 1861 entry - living in Nairnshire?

Alexander McKenzie 38 b Contin - quarryman
Isabella   28 b Urray
Donald   6 b Inverness
John   4 b Nairn
Christina 2 b Nairn
Nairn ED 2 Page 12 Line 18
 
Title: Re: ALexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: maddiewillis on Sunday 01 April 12 21:00 BST (UK)
Not sure the marraige was proclaimed 0n the 26th December 1853. Thats all I have got.
Maddie
Title: Re: ALexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: maddiewillis on Sunday 01 April 12 21:02 BST (UK)
Could be correct as i believe the children were Kenneth,Duncan,Isabella,Betsy,Amelia,ALexander,Christina,John,Daniel.
Maddie
Title: Re: Alexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 01 April 12 21:29 BST (UK)
Hi Maddie  :)

Could this be his baptism:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VQQB-CFJ

Do you have a list of his children in date order - they might have used the trad naming pattern.


gnu
Title: Re: Alexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 01 April 12 21:35 BST (UK)
The baptism entry has their abode as something that looks like Phirbui(e) - I don't see it on the map yet but will look on the NLS maps site  :)


gnu

PS - nearest so far is Fairburn but I'm not that confident of that
Title: Re: Alexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: maddiewillis on Sunday 01 April 12 21:54 BST (UK)
Hi GNU. I realised I was in the wrong area. This looks useful but agree dont understnd the place.
Thanks
Maddie
Title: Re: Alexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 01 April 12 22:07 BST (UK)
I was passed there this morning  :D

Just bringing this from your other thread as it lists the children:

Could be correct as i believe the children were Kenneth,Duncan,Isabella,Betsy,Amelia,ALexander,Christina,John,Daniel.
Maddie


These don't seem to fit with the parents that I've found  -will check to see if there's a Kenneth having children  in the area around then.


gnu
Title: Re: Alexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: maddiewillis on Sunday 01 April 12 22:11 BST (UK)
Hi GNU,
Thanks
Maddie
Title: Re: ALexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 01 April 12 22:25 BST (UK)
The 1861 is the right entry so it may be as well to have this post merged with the other

CHRISTINA MAC KENZIE   Birth:  01 FEB 1859   Nairn   Father:  ALEXANDER MAC KENZIE    Mother:  ISABELLA MC RAE 
Title: Re: Alexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 01 April 12 22:29 BST (UK)
Hi Maddie

Where did you find that he was born in Strathconon? I note that he was working at Muir of Ord when he married.


gnu

Title: Re: Alexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 01 April 12 22:31 BST (UK)
Parent search on IGI shows children John 1857, Alexander 1863 and Emelia 1865 all b Nairn

Also - Donald b 1854 Inverness  
Title: Re: Alexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 01 April 12 22:34 BST (UK)
yes Carole but we're trying to find Alexander's baptism - his death will be difficult as this name was a bit like John Brown in the Highlands

gnu
Title: Re: Alexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 01 April 12 22:36 BST (UK)
I know - but there are so many of that name I thought it may be better to track him via the children through the censuses to see when he died - possibly in Nairn

His death cert will give his parents names and therefore make it easier to pinpoint the right baptismal entry
Title: Re: Alexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 01 April 12 22:42 BST (UK)
I'm trying to trace back - a possible in Urray in 1851 - that's next door to Contin. Muir of Ord (where he was in 1853) is in Kilmorack, Invernesshire.

Title: Re: Alexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 01 April 12 22:50 BST (UK)
Have you found them after the 1861, apart from the births?
Title: Re: Alexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 01 April 12 22:55 BST (UK)
Just found this posting:

Looking for any info on Alexander MacKenzie born Jan 1823 in Contin and believe he died March 1899. I believe his father was William MacKenzie born May 1806 in Parish of Contin.
Any information would be useful
Thanks
Maddie
Title: Re: Alexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 01 April 12 22:57 BST (UK)
Thanks Gnu

Maddie - if he died in 1899 - have you not viewed his death cert to get his parents names and mothers maiden name?
Title: Re: ALexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: maddiewillis on Sunday 01 April 12 23:18 BST (UK)
Hi,
yes this looks correct
Thanks
Maddie
Title: Re: ALexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: maddiewillis on Sunday 01 April 12 23:19 BST (UK)
Is it definate Mac instead of Mc?
Maddie
Title: Re: ALexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 01 April 12 23:27 BST (UK)
Hi Maddie
 
Mc and Mac were used as alternatives.


gnu
Title: Re: ALexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: ev on Monday 02 April 12 09:01 BST (UK)
Topics merged and edited , other post locked , redirect to this topic placed on locked post

ev
Title: Re: ALexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: Gadget on Monday 02 April 12 09:52 BST (UK)
looks like there's another related thread:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,590067.0.html

Of particular interest~


From the burial records of Cambusnethan cemetery -
ALEXANDER McKENZIE, quarryman, Wishaw, aged 66 years, married.
Parents - Donald McKenzie & Isabella McCrae.
Interred in plot D121, 25th October 1888.
There may have been some confusion with the parents of Alexander who died in 1888, looks as though the widow's name was entered where his mother's name should have been. Or, his mother may also have been an Isabella McCrae, you would have to check the death certificate.
The IGI has a marriage for Aleander McKenzie and Isabella Macrae on 30th December 1853 at Urray, Ross & Cromarty.
There is also someone from Helensburgh making submissions for this family on the IGI.
Title: Re: ALexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: Gadget on Monday 02 April 12 09:59 BST (UK)
I've checked the death cert on SP as it looks as if I'd accessed it before,  so no credits to pay. The parents are given as


Donald McKenzie, farmer (deceased) and Isabella M.S McRae  (deceased)

gnu
Title: Re: ALexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: sancti on Monday 02 April 12 11:18 BST (UK)
1881 census


Alexander McKenzie 58 born Countin (Gaelic), Ross-Shire occ Quarry man
Isabella McKenzie 50 wife born Urray (G), Ross-Shire
Alexander McKenzie 17 son born Nairn, Nairnshire occ Engine keeper
Amelia McKenzie 16 daur Nairn, Nairnshire
Isabella McKenzie 8 daur born wishaw
Kenneth McKenzie 5 born Wishaw, Lanarkshire

Address Steels Land Wishaw
Title: Re: ALexander McKenzie Strathconnon
Post by: maddiewillis on Friday 06 April 12 16:53 BST (UK)
Hi Lodger and GNU,
Thanks for that. the details from Cambusnethan cemetry appear correct. Yes dont understand about the same name for his mother however I have applied for the death Cert. so hopefully this will help.
Thanks again for your help I do appreciate it.
Maddie