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Title: 1767 madely baptism lookup request please
Post by: bradelkington on Sunday 08 July 12 14:29 BST (UK)
Hi all my 5x great grandmother was sally/sarah Wase born around 1767. I found this reference about her about her her great grandson ( my 2x great grandfather's cousin samuel aurther peake was a professor born in leek 1865 and a primative methodist preacher)

"His great-grand-
mother on his father's side was a god-daughter
of the famous John Fletcher, Vicar of Madely,
designated successor of John Wesley. She was
a member of John Fletcher's church, and was
associated with Wesley in his evangelistic work.
It was customary for the Methodist preachers to
stay at her home when taking services in the
district
Sarah/sally married george peake in 1788 in lapley their child benjamin peake born 1789 also a primative methodist preacher is my 4x great grandfather. i found sarah/sally living in stafford in 1851 a widow born in madley, please could someone be kind anough to find a baptism for her, her maiden name  is Wase
many thanks in advance dave
Title: Re: 1767 madely baptism lookup request please
Post by: mauricej on Sunday 08 July 12 15:10 BST (UK)
Hi Dave,

There's a Sarah Wase baptised Waters Upton, Shropshire, on 6th June 1767; parents John Wase and Sarah.

Regards,
Maurice


Added: Waters Upton is about 12 miles from Madeley, Shropshire.
However, there is also a Madeley in Staffordshire, near Newcastle under Lyme.


Title: Re: 1767 madely baptism lookup request please
Post by: bradelkington on Sunday 08 July 12 15:38 BST (UK)
Thanks maurice that could be very possible being born waters upton, it states madley salop in 1851 census. i live in telford in hadley so im not that far, wheres the nearest local history centre in shropshire? I might pay a visit and lookup some baptism/s marriages etc?
Regards dave
Title: Re: 1767 madely baptism lookup request please
Post by: mauricej on Sunday 08 July 12 15:47 BST (UK)
Hi Dave

wheres the nearest local history centre in shropshire? I might pay a visit and lookup some baptism/s marriages etc?

Shropshire Parish Records are held at Shropshire Archives in Shrewsbury; across Castle Street between the railway station and the castle.

Find their website here:- http://www.shropshire.gov.uk/archives.nsf

or contact them on archives(at)shropshire.gov.uk

Regards,
Maurice



Title: Re: 1767 madely baptism lookup request please
Post by: bradelkington on Sunday 08 July 12 16:08 BST (UK)
cheers maurice ive found the place on google maps now, i will have to visit on my next day off work. i will proberly spend a few hours in there!
many thanks again for your help all the best
 Dave
Title: Re: 1767 madely baptism lookup request please
Post by: bristolloggerheads on Sunday 08 July 12 18:57 BST (UK)
Lots of Wases in the Waters Upton register. This marriage entry suggests that Benjamin Wase was also a minister.

1755, Oct. 9. John Birn, p. Malpas, Cheshire, & Elizabeth Blakemore, lic. By BENJAMIN WASE
Title: Re: 1767 madely baptism lookup request please
Post by: bristolloggerheads on Sunday 08 July 12 19:02 BST (UK)
Indeed he was, see

http://www.theclergydatabase.org.uk/jsp/search/index.jsp

Search for Wase
Title: Re: 1767 madely baptism lookup request please
Post by: bradelkington on Wednesday 11 July 12 09:25 BST (UK)
thanks for finding and researching that for me much appriciated. My ancestors a this line seemed to be quite religious i know the peake side of the family was primative methodist preachers. Apparently my 4x great grandfather Benjamin Peake ran a night school in wheaton aston in the 1820's i wonder where i can find more out about this?
Title: Re: 1767 madely baptism lookup request please
Post by: wish I was fishing on Tuesday 08 April 14 20:29 BST (UK)
Hi there,
Only joined recently & came across your research.
Sarah  Wase/Peake was my 4Xgreat grandmother. I am descended via William, Thomas & Mary Jane Peake.

I too have been looking for her baptism without success. However the fact that she was John Fletchers God daughter interested me. It seems that he (Fletcher) regularly wrote to a William Wase of Madeley.
I found William's will online. He leaves some money to his deceased son John's son (also John) & to "each of his remaining children, Nicholas, Joseph, Sarah Peake (!!!) & Ann Ward".
I can only find baptisms for John 1767 & Nicholas bap 1789 but born 1770!. So it appears they may all have been baptised much later than normal.
Hope this is of interest.
 
Title: Re: 1767 madely baptism lookup request please
Post by: madeley on Thursday 10 April 14 18:57 BST (UK)
There used to be a wase familey that had the farm next to the beeches hospital on beech road madeley.
Title: Re: 1767 madely baptism lookup request please
Post by: bradelkington on Friday 25 April 14 20:29 BST (UK)
So now ive confirmed sarah wase born 1767 in madeley is the daughter of William wase and jane cranage. Jane cranage's father was George was of coalbrookdale who done sort of invention in 1766 to do with pig iron?
William wase was the son of Benjamin wase a vicar of bolas magna who died in 1758, and his father again was john wase, he seemed a very important man with lots online about him. He died in 1715 and had a charity, a extract of his will is inscripted in tibberton church, he left money to all the poor of waters upton. He was a barrister and also a councillor of shrewsbury. In 1703 john wase modernised a mansion in waters upton, I cannot find more about the background of john was other than this and he married Dorothy stockins in 1693 in much wenlock. As he was so wealthy that he had several properties and a barrister and left huge sums of money to his charity he must come from a well to do family? How can I go further back than that?
Title: Re: 1767 madely baptism lookup request please
Post by: wish I was fishing on Thursday 01 May 14 16:08 BST (UK)
I've seen the actual parish record for Dorothy stocking marrying at Much Wenlock & I'm not convinced it says John Wase, It's more like John Wyre. It gives his parish as Stoke St Milborough which is quite a distance from Stoke on Tern where he had Benjamin.
Title: Re: 1767 madely baptism lookup request please
Post by: wish I was fishing on Thursday 01 May 14 16:40 BST (UK)
Just found a reference for a John Wase at the Middle temple where he was admitted in 1684 & called to the bar in 1691. It describes him as the son & heir of William Wase gent. of Fankelow, Cheshire. I think they mean Hankelow which isn't far from the Shropshire border. I've also come across a reference to a document at Shropshire archives where Dorothy Wase (wife of John of Shrewsbury )gives up some land at Hankelow for some at Coleham Shrewsbury.  This has to be our John?
Title: Re: 1767 madely baptism lookup request please
Post by: Atcherley.org.uk on Saturday 15 November 14 22:39 GMT (UK)
The surname Wase was occasionally written as Waste (e.g. in the burial record of Benjamin Wase at Great Bolas). Hankelow, though now a parish in its own right, was a township in the parish of Audlem. In the Audlem parish register there is a baptism, dated 24 April 1661, for "John sonne of William Waste" - I suspect this was the baptism of John Wase who married Dorothy and went on to have children John and Henry at Market Drayton / Drayton in Hales (baptisms there in 1692 and 1695 respectively) followed by Rebecca and Benjamin at Stoke upon Tern (baptisms there in 1697 and 1699).

"William Wase, of Hankelow, yeoman" was an executor of the will made by John Sharples(s) dated 4 May 1682 according to The Bond family: descendants of Richard Bond, 1692-1997 (author Betty L Bond Pennington).

I have not found anything further on William (who is my ancestor too) however the Audlem register includes a burial for a lady whose name may have been Ann (the name is somewhat indistinct) "wife of William Wase buried ye 11th of January" 1672/3.
Title: Re: 1767 madely baptism lookup request please
Post by: Jan Keenan on Friday 31 July 15 08:36 BST (UK)
Hi Dave,

My 4x great grandfather is also Benjamin Peake (Lapley 1789).  We have his mother as Sally Wase, 1766-1765,  who married George Peake in Lapley in 1788.  It seems likely that we're talking about the same people, despite the minor discrepancy in Sally/Sarah's DoB.  I'd be interested to know how you decided that your Sally was actually Sarah, and would be grateful if you could point me in the right direction of the relevant records.  I'm new to all this, so would be grateful for any help.

With thanks,

Jan
Title: Re: 1767 madely baptism lookup request please
Post by: wish I was fishing on Monday 24 August 15 10:27 BST (UK)
Hi Jan
There is a will on line (can't remember the site off hand) for William Wase who was the son of Benjamin & Grandson of John that specifically mentions Sally/Sarah Peak as one of his heirs. There is also a will of her aunt Alice Wase, a spinster, who also moved to Lapley. 
Title: Re: 1767 madely baptism lookup request please
Post by: Jan Keenan on Monday 24 August 15 15:28 BST (UK)
Thanks, Dave.  I found William's will, and also found the baptism certificate for Nicholas, which confirmed that William's wife  was Jane (Cranage).  However in looking for Jane's father, George, Cranage I found two in Shropshire born 1699 & 1701, respectively.  One married Elizabetha Jones and the other married Elizabeth Palmer ( I think this was George of  Coalbrookdale.). Did you come across anything to confirm this?

Didn't know about Sarah's aunt - will look this up! :)

Jan
Title: Re: 1767 madely baptism lookup request please
Post by: bradelkington on Monday 24 August 15 20:24 BST (UK)
Hi there Jan sorry about the late reply someone managed to miss your question, I have a few interesting articles, I have sarah/sally wase/peakes death cert she died 23 april 1855 in Stourbridge aged 88 widow of George peake a tailor, she died of old age. now the death was registered as sally peake when the cert arrived in a column of its own states sarah substitute sally corrected on 25 april 1855 by me Edward levi registrar in the presence of henry Talbot and mary ann mountford both in attendance.

also a news paper notice which confirms it all which ive attached shows she was a widow of George peake of Stafford a tailor and eldest daughter of William wase esquire of madley
Title: Re: 1767 madely baptism lookup request please
Post by: Jan Keenan on Monday 24 August 15 21:28 BST (UK)
Brilliant!!  Thank you so much for this.  Certainly helps to prove the Cranage connection.

Jan