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Title: heenans from denny
Post by: minnie1703 on Saturday 18 August 12 14:44 BST (UK)
hi im lookining for any information on the heenans from the denny area my father is (*) heenan and i dont know anything about his family he married ann ferguson carter...i cant seem to get back to any of his family
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: down-under on Saturday 18 August 12 15:56 BST (UK)
?? Do you have a marriage certificate?

1901
Registration No 476/1
Denny Stirlingshire
16 Broad Street


Patrick Mcnally age 28 born West Calder Edinburgh Coalminer
Ann wife age 25 born Denny
Mary B dau age 5 Denny
Patrick son age 3 Denny
Lawrence son  no age born Denny
Thomas son no age born Denny
Laurence Heenan father in law age 50 coalminer Ireland
Lawrence Heenan brother in law age 18 Denny Coal miner
Thomas Heenan brother in law age 14 Denny
Maggie Heenan age 12 sister in law Denny
Mary Heenan sister in law age 16 coal pit leadworker

1891
Registration No 478
Dunnipace Stirlingshire
Stirling Row
Laurance Heenan age 42 Ireland coalminer
Margaret wife age 40 Monkland Lanarkshire
James son age 20 born Denny coal miner
John son age 18 Denny Coal miner
Ann dau age 16 Denny Paper Mill worker
Patrick son age 11 Denny
Laurance son age 8 broxburn Linlithgowshire
Mary dau age 6 Broxburn
Thomas son age 4 Rosehall Lanarkshire
Margaret dau age 2 Slamannan

1881

Registration no 408
Ballingry
Fife
Lochore Rows

Laurence Heenan age 31 Ireland Coal miner
Margaret wife age 29 Airdrie Lanarkshire
Alice dau age 11 Denny
James son age 9 Denny
John son age 7 Denny
Ann dau age 5 Denny
Ellen dau age 3 Denny
Patrick son age 2 Denny

1871
Registration No 476
Address Bridgend
Denny Stirlingshire

Lawrence Heenan age 23 Ireland Ironstone miner
Margaret wife age 20 Airdrie Lanarkshire
Alice dau age 6 months Denny

Regards Pam
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: minnie1703 on Saturday 18 August 12 16:15 BST (UK)
i cant seem to find a marriage for them
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: minnie1703 on Saturday 18 August 12 16:17 BST (UK)
this family seems about right but still cant find a cert
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: down-under on Saturday 18 August 12 16:35 BST (UK)
There are family trees on A...... Bainbridge family tree with laurance also Meridith family tree
Heenan/Hannan Looks as if both names were used at one stage also crossley and Dec family trees

Laurence Heenan died 1915 birth and  residence Denny Stirlingshire of the Princess Louise's(Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders) 10th Battalion
Number S/6222 Killed in action Western European Theatre death France and Flanders

1871 RG10

Registration No 476
Denny Stirlingshire
address Themaure

Peter Heenan age 33 Ireland  Ironstone MIner
Louisa wife age 31 Ireland
Mary dau age 9 Boness Linlithgow
Patrick son age 6 Denny
John son age 3 Burham Linlithgow
James son age 10 months Denny

1871

Denny
Stirlingshire
Registration No 476
address Themaure

Eliza Heenan age 33 Ireland Ironstone miner??

Pam
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 18 August 12 16:52 BST (UK)
Are your parents still alive given we are discussing their names and details online as we are?
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: minnie1703 on Saturday 18 August 12 16:53 BST (UK)
my mum is deceased but i dont know my father ???
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 18 August 12 17:01 BST (UK)
Minnie, I have made some edits and deletions on the posts we have, given how recent some of the events being discussed are.

I didn't want to take the post off the main board. There are very likely lots of useful information on potential Heenan family by Pam on the early census data.
 
RootsChat is not a forum for discussing details on people who may still be alive. As you know it is very much about ancestors who have since died. It is one of the key RootsChat guidelines that we must protect potentially/actual living people's identity and privacy. Your father may well still be alive, given the year of the marriage for your parents.

Can I suggest you order that certficate and then start working back from that. You may well also have to order your Heenan grandparents' marriage cert too, if the marriage was after 1935.

Very likely you will at some point be able to link up to all of Pam's data on the Heenan families in Denny that she has posted.

Monica
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: minnie1703 on Saturday 18 August 12 17:07 BST (UK)
ok , thanks and sorry. :-[
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 18 August 12 17:21 BST (UK)
Wish you every luck with these more recent searches, Minnie  :)

The marriage from 1976 in Denny will hopefully begin to point you in the right direction. Gets so much easier in most cases the further back you go....

Monica
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: apanderson on Saturday 18 August 12 22:06 BST (UK)
Following Pam's post (Laurence/Lawrence Heenan) WW1, the following is some additional infomation about him:


Laurence/Lawrence Heenan
Private
No. S/6222
Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders, 10th Bn.
Born at Denny, Killed in action 15th October 1915
Son of Lawrence Heenan
No Known Grave
Commemorated at: Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial, Denny Cemetery Memorial & Denny Town Memorial

Enlisted 27th October 1914 at Stirling, age stated as 28 years, 4 months, occupation Coal Miner.
Height 5ft 2ins
Father Laurence Heenan’s address listed on his Will as 19 Herbertshire Street, Denny
Father Laurence Heenan’s address listed also as 20 Broad Street, Denny on other documentation.

Family Details listed on Service Records:
Brothers James age 48, John age 46, Patrick age 30 & Thomas age 30, 3 Sisters (names and ages illegible)

Medal Entitlement: British War Medal & Victory Medal

Anne
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: minnie1703 on Sunday 19 August 12 02:40 BST (UK)
thankyou very much for this valuable information....i have also been looking for a wife but to no avail, you got any clues???? ;D
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: apanderson on Sunday 19 August 12 10:18 BST (UK)
Afraid not minnie.

His service record doesn't mention a wife, only siblings it's presumed he had never married.

If he was, there must have been a good reason for him not to mention his wife and any children!

I think once you download some registrations (births, marriages or deaths), you'll get on much better. At least you'll be able to confirm parents etc.

As we're really not getting anywhere fast, I downloaded the birth for Alice Heenan, the eldest child of Laurence & Margaret (Laurence's big sister) for you. I looked for Laurence but couldn't find him easily.

The details are:

Alice Heenan, born 30th September 1870 at Denny
Parents: Laurence Heenan and Margaret Heenan m.s. CURRENS, who married at Denny on 22nd October 1869
Father Laurence registered his daughter's birth and marked his name with an 'X'.

If you send me a PM with your personal e-mail address, I'll forward a copy.

Anne

P.S. I think you might have to consider using wildcards in any searches on SP. The 'H' for Heenan on Alice's cert could very easily be mistaken for a 'K' (Keenan)
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: apanderson on Sunday 19 August 12 10:49 BST (UK)
OK ..... 1911 Census - Lawrence Senior & Junior are listed as HANNAY!

Living at 198 Broad Street Denny:

Patrick McNally, Coal Miner Hewer, age 38, born West Calder, Linlithgowshire
Ann McNally, Wife, age 35, born Denny, Stirlingshire
Maggie McNally, daughter, age 16, born Denny, Stirlingshire
Patrick McNally, son age 14, Pithead Worker in Colliery, born Denny, Stirlingshire
Lawrence McNally, son, age 12, Scholar, born Denny, Stirlingshire
Thomas McNally, son age 10, Scholar, born Denny, Stirlingshire
Anne McNally, daughter, age 8, Scholar, born Denny, Stirlingshire
James McNally, son, she 7, Scholar, born Denny, Stirlingshire
Owen McNally, son age 5, born Denny, Stirlingshire
Catherine McNally, daughter, age 3, born Denny, Stirlingshire
Peter McNally, son, age 2, born Denny, Stirlingshire
Laurence HANNAY, Father-in-law, age 64, Coalminer Hewer, born Ireland
Laurence HANNAY, Brother-in-law, age 28, Coalminer Hewer, born Broxburn, Linlithgowshire

Laurence would have to have married between 1911 - 1915 and I can't find ANY marriages using any of the variants I can think between these years.

Does this mean that this Laurence/Lawrence is NOT the one you're looking for?  :-\

Anne
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: apanderson on Sunday 19 August 12 11:03 BST (UK)
I found the birth of a Lawrence HANNAN?

Born 19th April 1882 at 63 Haligate (?), Uphall, Broxburn
Parents Patrick Hannan, Labourer and Margaret Hannan m.s. McMillan
(Who married 7th November 1877 at Liff & Bervie)

There are 3 Lawrence Heenans (using Traditional Soundex for surname) born between 1880 - 1890 and the reason I went for the Broxburn birth was that Broxburn is listed as his place of birth on a couple of the census returns.

The other two - one was born at Partick, Glasgow in 1888, the other in Renfrew in 1881.

Anne
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: minnie1703 on Wednesday 22 August 12 12:21 BST (UK)
alice heenan is definately the right one, still looking at the others
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: minnie1703 on Wednesday 22 August 12 12:25 BST (UK)
OK ..... 1911 Census - Lawrence Senior & Junior are listed as HANNAY!

Living at 198 Broad Street Denny:

Patrick McNally, Coal Miner Hewer, age 38, born West Calder, Linlithgowshire
Ann McNally, Wife, age 35, born Denny, Stirlingshire
Maggie McNally, daughter, age 16, born Denny, Stirlingshire
Patrick McNally, son age 14, Pithead Worker in Colliery, born Denny, Stirlingshire
Lawrence McNally, son, age 12, Scholar, born Denny, Stirlingshire
Thomas McNally, son age 10, Scholar, born Denny, Stirlingshire
Anne McNally, daughter, age 8, Scholar, born Denny, Stirlingshire
James McNally, son, she 7, Scholar, born Denny, Stirlingshire
Owen McNally, son age 5, born Denny, Stirlingshire
Catherine McNally, daughter, age 3, born Denny, Stirlingshire
Peter McNally, son, age 2, born Denny, Stirlingshire
Laurence HANNAY, Father-in-law, age 64, Coalminer Hewer, born Ireland
Laurence HANNAY, Brother-in-law, age 28, Coalminer Hewer, born Broxburn, Linlithgowshire

Laurence would have to have married between 1911 - 1915 and I can't find ANY marriages using any of the variants I can think between these years.

Does this mean that this Laurence/Lawrence is NOT the one you're looking for?  :-\

Anne


i cant seem to fit this family in though
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: minnie1703 on Wednesday 22 August 12 12:25 BST (UK)
but i know they are connected because of broad street denny
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: apanderson on Wednesday 22 August 12 17:29 BST (UK)
Lawrence Junior's sister Ann was married to Patrick McNally.

The relationships listed of the 2 Lawrences (e.g. father-in-law and son-in-law) are the relationship to the head of the household who was Patrick McNally. (The husband of Ann Heenan)

Patrick and Ann would have married between 1891 - 1901.

Anne
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: minnie1703 on Saturday 25 August 12 16:44 BST (UK)
thanks for this wealth of information.....you are a star and obv very good at what you do....thanks a million cos it is the correct family i was looking for a census with heenan and mcdonald cos i came across it and now cant find it.......thankyou very much kind person ;D ;D
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: Croy Girl on Sunday 26 August 12 14:53 BST (UK)
Hi Minnie

If you are looking for recent family members maybe i can help you out.There is a (*) Heenan who worked with my daughter .My daughter is friends with his partner.The family live in (*).Mabe you could give them a phone and see if they are your dads family.

Marguerite.

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Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: apanderson on Sunday 26 August 12 18:33 BST (UK)
Hi minnie,

I've sent an e-mail to your personal address regarding Laurence's Service Record.

Anne
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: Croy Girl on Sunday 26 August 12 18:48 BST (UK)
Hi Minnie

Just private mailing you with some information about Heenan family .

Marguerite
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: minnie1703 on Monday 27 August 12 10:21 BST (UK)
thankyou very much on the heenans from denny.....could anyone shed  any light on  lawrence heenan 1920
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: lizzie merry on Wednesday 27 August 14 18:34 BST (UK)
Just seen this. I am descended from the Denny Heenans, at some point in the early 20th century they changed their name to Hannan though to make it extra tricky. My relative is Thomas Heenan/Hannan born 1887. He had a son called Lawrence but I think he was born before 1920 ? Not sure. I thought he and Margaret were born pre 1st World war and then the other 10 came tumbling after. 4 are still alive.
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: Mr.S. on Saturday 30 August 14 14:51 BST (UK)
Was Patrick McNally the son of Owen McNally from Ballina ,County Mayo ?His mother would be an O,Boyle(or Bile)
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: minnie1703 on Saturday 30 August 14 16:28 BST (UK)
Hi minnie,

I've sent an e-mail to your personal address regarding Laurence's Service Record.

Anne


 you private message me it as i cant get into the email please. much appreciated
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: minnie1703 on Saturday 30 August 14 17:01 BST (UK)
Hi minnie,

I've sent an e-mail to your personal address regarding Laurence's Service Record.

Anne
Title: Re: heenans from denny
Post by: christina279 on Sunday 17 December 17 14:50 GMT (UK)
if you need any info on family please i have the facts of them and certs