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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Sussex => Topic started by: dannibaggaley on Monday 20 August 12 21:40 BST (UK)
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Hi there,
Could anyone tell me who the father of Isaack or Isaac Ayling is b. 1797 in Aldingbourne d. 1881 in worthing please?
I have a possible William or Edmund
He married Frances Parsons in 1819 in broadwater
I would just like to know which guy is the father if anyone knows!!
Thanks x
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Hi dannibaggaley,
There is an Isaac Ayling baptised at St Mary the Virgin, Aldingbourne, on 2.4.1797.
The record says he is the son of John and Ann Ayling.
That doesn't seem to fit in too well with your idea of his father being either William or Edmund :'( but it's the only record for Isaac Ayling in Aldingbourne around that date.
Hope it helps a little. HL
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Hi hampshire lass
I found my info here http://www.rootschat.com/links/0qas/
Hope that works! And you'll see why I'm confused
Danni x
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Mmmm.....how annoying.
There's been a transcription error somewhere and we don't know which one is wrong!
I'll see if I can find a marriage or other baptisms which will possibly solve things.....get back to you in due course. HL
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The family search records say Edmund.....where did you get William from? :)
SFHG records quite clearly says John but it may well be that one which is wrong as there is no marriage for a John Ayling and Ann.
There is also no marriage for an Edmund and Ann.
There is a marriage at Felpham 19.5.1790 by banns between William Ayling and Ann Faulkner, bach and spinster, both of this parish.
There are also baptisms at Aldingbourne:-
Edmund 20.10.1794 son of William and Ann Ayling
Harriet 20.10.1794 daughter of William and Ann Ayling
Charles 25.12.1795 son of William and Ann Ayling
There are also other baptisms at Aldingbourne
for children of Thomas and Elizabeth Ayling
and children of Richard and Elizabeth Ayling.
Perhaps Isaac is really the child of William and Ann but that makes both familysearch and SFHG wrong ::) ???
Best wishes HL
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I got william from the family search link I gave u!
Third entry down, its isaack with a k, parents Wm and ann
Thank u for your hard work, I'll keep at it and see where it gets me! X
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:D I only noticed the first entry ::)
If you alter the search to encompass parents names and omit the childs first name it brings up a number of likely results for other children for William and Ann.....mainly on the 2nd page of results
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0qar/
This couple married in 1790 and it's the only likely marriage. Felpham isn't Aldingbourne but isn't many miles away. There was no marriage for a John Ayling or Edmund Ayling so they look the likeliest couple.
Of course the best answer would be to see the baptism records at Lewes because there has definitely been 2 transcription errors which throws it all into confusion.
Good luck. Best wishes HL
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Hello Danni & HL
I had a nose at Sussex Online Parish Clerk.They give Issac`s Mum & Dad Edmund & Ann ???
No marriage for them on SMI,unless they married just over the Border
in Hampshire.
The Aldingbourne Parish records are available on CD from Parish Chest
for a few pounds.
I have bought some CD`s from them :) & discovered a Marriage that was`nt on the SMI
Hope this helps
Kind Regards
omega
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Hello
You can also buy The Micro Fiche for Aldingbourne from West Sussex Record Office.
Kind Regards
omega
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Hi Omega :)
Glad you had a look at this one as it is confusing.... a good idea to look at Sussex Online Parish Clerk and Parish Chest (didn't think of that!)
I know there are a few errors (understandably) with SFHG and so perhaps Edmund is the answer... and the marriage is omited or over the border as you said
Best wishes HL
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Hello HL
Something is clearly wrong,hopefully it will all come out in the wash ???
Kind regards
omega
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Sorry sillgen.....didn't think of copyright :(
(I was just a bit worried about leading dannibaggaley down the wrong path.)
Best wishes HL
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A little late on this one but came up in google search. If you viw the original parish records for Isaac in 1797 for Aldingbourne, the father's name is "Wm" for William. It cursory look would come up with John or Edmund. However, if you compare to Williams in the entries below Isaac, you can see the the clerk is using "Wm" repeatedly for William. Yes, William married Anne Faulkner in Felpham is this is Isaac's likely parents. Question is: who was William's father? And where was he born?
Chris Ayling
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I think William might have been born, but not baptized, in Felpham, the next parish south of Aldingbourne where he is married. The only source we have for his place of birth is via the 1851 census. The 1841 does not list parish. I am guessing that Greatham was transcribed in error for Felpham. I note further there is a marriage of Thomas Ayling (1734-1794) and Elizabeth Greenwood in South Bersted, the parish next door to Aldingbourne, in 1769. This is William's date of birth (based on census info). See https://www.ancestry.com/boards/surnames.ayling/398/mb.ashx. Thomas resides in Aldingbourne and is buried there. Thomas' Will is available, but it is an Administration and not likely to mention a son. However, I will see if I can order it to confirm if a son William is mentioned. Thomas' father was likely John Ayling (B. 1712) of South Bersted. His father was likely Richard Ayling (B. abt 1680). I think the South Bersted and Aldingbourne Ayling families reach back further through Felpham. A lot of guess work but you can see the patterns by looking at the parish transcription compilation for Aylings. See https://www.ancestry.com/boards/surnames.ayling/mb.ashx.
See "John Ayling (B. abt 1540) of Petersfield Hampshire & descendants Family Tree" for the entire family line (which includes two other large Ayling trees joining via marriage).
Chris Ayling
Canada
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I have an autosomal DNA match with a descendant of William Ayling via his granddaughter Caroline Ayling (B. 1844). This puzzled me because I did not see a link between my Ayling ancestors (in the Graffham/Woolavington area) and the Aylings of Broadwater/Worthing.
In the 1851 census William says he was born about 1767 and from Greatham. I thought this might have been transcribed in error for Graffham. And there is a William born there in 1767...but he is deceased in 1767. However, there is a William Ayling born in 1766 in nearby Woolavington. There was a lot of movement between Graffham and Woolavington for Ayling families. For example, my 6X great grandfather James Ayling (1774-1860) was born in Woolavington. His father Thomas Ayling (1738-1820) was from Graffham. James' son John Ayling (1804-1890) raises his family in Graffham.
So what I am saying is that perhaps William Ayling of "Greatham" was the son of Thomas Ayling (1738-1820) of Graffham, brother to my 6X great grandfather James Ayling (1774-1860). If so, this other person and I would share about .7% of autosomal DNA from Thomas. Is this enough for Ancestry to pick up? I'm not sure.
The only way to know for sure would be for an Ayling male descendant of William to take a YDNA test and compare to my test results. If you are that person, contact me at aylinghistorian@gmail.com. Or contact me via the Ayling Surname Project at www.familytreedna.com/groups/ayling-surname/about/background
Cheers,
Chris Ayling