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Title: Andrew Wilson,Esq..New Brighton,Wallasey..1958
Post by: ajjbc on Thursday 13 September 12 17:58 BST (UK)
Assistance needed,if possible.
I am looking for an ...Andrew Wilson Esq..probably born mid 1870s to early 1880 in Cheshire England.
His parents were possibly Mary and John Wilson...yeah I know,common names.
In 1958 he lived at ..#20 Seymour Street,New Brighton,Wallasey,Cheshire,England.
Would be interested in any info one could provide and /or any contact with family members.
Andrew Wilson had a brother John Wilson born c 1870/2 who came to Canada after WW1 and settled in BC Canada,where he died in 1958.
Thanks for any help
Title: Re: Andrew Wilson,Esq..New Brighton,Wallasey..1958
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 14 September 12 13:53 BST (UK)
Hi
Could this be your man?

On www.familysearch.org there is this entry

John Andrew Wilson
Parents John Wilson and Elizabeth McCague
Birth 21st September 1877 Ireland
Death 28th November 1958 Vancouver, British Columbia Canada

Heather
Title: Re: Andrew Wilson,Esq..New Brighton,Wallasey..1958
Post by: Daisypetal on Friday 14 September 12 15:12 BST (UK)
Hi,

How about this family for John and Andrew WILSON?

Death
John William WILSON
26 Feb 1958 
Vernon, British Columbia, Canada 
age: 86 
Widowed 
DOB: 30 Sep 1871  Cheshire, England 
Father: John WILSON
Mother: Mary WALSH




1881  RG11/3761  f.82  p.7  Haigh, Lancashire    Registration district: Wigan,   Sub-registration district: Aspull   
Plantation Cott

WILSON
John         Head    34    Gardener            Shropshire Prees
Mary         Wife    35    Gardener's Wife    Cheshire Eastham
John Will.    Son     9    Scholar               Cheshire Eastham
Sarah Ann  Daur     6    Scholar               Lancashire Aspull
George Ed.  Son     4                                   "         Haigh


Birth
Andrew WILSON    Jun Q 1881    Wigan    8c  19



1891  RG12/2876;  f.48  p.2  Thurstaston, Cheshire    Registration district: Wirral 

WILSON
John      Head    44    Gardener Dom Serv     Shropshire Whitchurch
Mary      Wife    47                                   Cheshire Childer Thornton
George    Son    14    Gardener Dom Serv      Lancashire Haigh
Andrew    Son     9    Scholar                           "          "
Fred        Son     7        "                                "        Formby
David       Son     2                                 Cheshire Thurstaston
 

Regards,
Daisy

 
 
Title: Re: Andrew Wilson,Esq..New Brighton,Wallasey..1958
Post by: Daisypetal on Friday 14 September 12 15:55 BST (UK)
A possible birth for John William WILSON,

John William WILSON    Dec Q 1871    Wirral    8a  405


Cheshire BMD show this birth in the Eastham sub-district,

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/index.php



Even better news, the birth I found for Andrew can be found at Lancashire BMD and it shows the sub-district as Aspull and the mother's maiden name as WALSH :)

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Title: Re: Andrew Wilson,Esq..New Brighton,Wallasey..1958
Post by: ajjbc on Friday 14 September 12 16:07 BST (UK)
Thanks for your replays....Heatherjulie...No.. John William Wilson was not born in Ireland he was born in England and died in Vernon BC.

Daisypetal....You info looks like it might fit...I will spend some time and do further research.
I was on my way this weekend to get John William Wilson death reg in 1958 to see if light could be shed on his family.
What I am really hoping for is a family member /researcher will spot my post and reply....One must always hope.
John "Jack/Jock"William Wilson was my great uncle  and left wonderful impression on my childhood.
He served in the Boer War under Lord Baden Powell,he was a farmer,hunter,taxidermist and guide.
He was a guide to the Marquis of Lorne on his several occasional trips to BC.
So,like I say family contact would be  delightful,to say the least.
Many thanks.....
Title: Re: Andrew Wilson,Esq..New Brighton,Wallasey..1958
Post by: Certacito on Wednesday 19 September 12 13:17 BST (UK)
Could be just coincidence but my uncle was John Wilson (married in) and he lived in New Brighton until his death.  Obviously not one of your early ones but could be a descendant?  Seymour street is about two minutes walk from where he lived.

I could ask my cousins if they know any more if you are interested?
Title: Re: Andrew Wilson,Esq..New Brighton,Wallasey..1958
Post by: ajjbc on Wednesday 19 September 12 15:53 BST (UK)
Thanks Certacito,but my great uncle John William Wilson did not have time to marry until he came to Canada,it was then after he received land that he did and sadly this loving couple had no children.
I still have hope that someone will recognize the address in New Brighton,Wallasey as to where his brother  Andrew Wilson lived.
Title: Re: Andrew Wilson,Esq..New Brighton,Wallasey..1958
Post by: Certacito on Wednesday 19 September 12 17:09 BST (UK)
I recognise the address having lived in the next road in 1958 but don't recall the name.  Mind you I was only eight.  I could check the voters list for you if that would help at all? Seymour street and number 20 is still there although most around it has been redeveloped.
Title: Re: Andrew Wilson,Esq..New Brighton,Wallasey..1958
Post by: ajjbc on Wednesday 19 September 12 17:34 BST (UK)
Thanks Certacito...we researchers will work anything to find what we want....
By the way,I love your posted photo...so darn cute !!!

I do not know if the Andrew Wilson,Esq.,was married or not..but like I said earlier,one hopes a family researcher will see this and respond as I have some awesome photos of John William Wilson ( !871 -1958 )here in Canada and would love to share .
       Cheers
Title: Re: Andrew Wilson,Esq..New Brighton,Wallasey..1958
Post by: Certacito on Wednesday 19 September 12 21:15 BST (UK)
Thanks Certacito...we researchers will work anything to find what we want....
By the way,I love your posted photo...so darn cute !!!

I do not know if the Andrew Wilson,Esq.,was married or not..but like I said earlier,one hopes a family researcher will see this and respond as I have some awesome photos of John William Wilson ( !871 -1958 )here in Canada and would love to share .
       Cheers

It's my grandmother c1900 collecting for the New Brighton lifeboat.
Title: Re: Andrew Wilson,Esq..New Brighton,Wallasey..1958
Post by: Daisypetal on Thursday 20 September 12 16:29 BST (UK)
Hi,

I think if the Andrew Wilson I found earlier is the correct one, following his life through he seems to get married and have children,



1901  RG13/3392  f.68;  p.29  Birkenhead
1 Richmond Ter?

Charles MCGRIFF    Head    M    38    Ship Stoker  ??          Scotland
Catherine    "         Wife    M    38                                  Cheshire B'head   
Andrew WILSON   Boarder  S    19    Butcher (Slaughterer)  Lancs Formby


Marriage
Andrew WILSON    Sep Q 1908    Birkenhead    8a  1043
Minnie HAYES


17 Aug 1908
The Parish Church, New Brighton, Cheshire
Andrew WILSON
Age:  28
Batchelor
Butcher
20 Seymour Street
Father:  John WILSON,  Farmer

Minnie HAYES
Age:  24
Spinster
18 Seymour Street
Father:  William Hayes,  Brick Settler

Both have signed their names.

Witnesses:  John HAYES, Elizabeth HAMBLET


I'm just a bit unsure about John's occupation as he was a gardener in 1901 not a farmer, I wonder if it could have been misheard or if John had changed profession by 1909?


Birth
John WILSON    Sep Q 1909     Birkenhead    8a  571


Baptisms in the parish of New Brighton, Chesire
06 Oct 1909
John WILSON
Father: Andrew
Mother:  Minnie
20 Seymour Street
Butcher



We cannot do full transcriptions of the 1911 census here because of copyright issues but I suggest you look for the above family living at 1 Plantation Cottage New Brighton Cheshire. It looks like Andrew's sister Sarah Ann is there too :)


Some WILSON/HAYES children can be found using freeBMD and/or ChesireBMD,

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/


If you follow these names they might lead you to living relatives :-\


Regards,
Daisy
Title: Re: Andrew Wilson,Esq..New Brighton,Wallasey..1958
Post by: ajjbc on Friday 21 September 12 21:06 BST (UK)
Thank you so much...I can now proceed further and compile more background on my great uncle...
John "Jack" William Wilson....i'm thrilled to work with all this info.