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Did William JEFFERY bap. 6 Dec 1817 in Sherborne Dorset marry a Miss KINGBURGH?
I believe that his parents were William JEFFERY & Elizabeth ELLIOT who married 8 Jan 1800 All Saints' Dorchester, Dorset
Charles Fellowes JEFFERY born 1838 was William & Miss Kīs son.
Can anyone find the other members of the is family?
Muffin41
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Hi,
Have you looked at the records available on the Dorset OPC site?
www.opcddorset.org
Nanny Jan
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The 1851 census shows Charles (13 b Weymouth) as a son of William V Jeffery (printer, 44 b Sherborne) and his wife "Kinburgh" (or Kinbrugh) Jeffery (42 b Shaftesbury Dorset).
HO107/1857/235/24.
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Marriage, Melcombe Regis, Dorset
30 Jul 1829
William Vincent Jeffery to Kenburgh Upjohn
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Thank you for the marriage, I had not founf that 8)
Muffin
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Baptism: Shaftesbury
Kingburgh Forward Upjohn d Jesse UpJohn
Bap 27 Mar 1803
Kingburgh Jeffery died in 1882 and appears in all the censuses until then.
William Vincent Jeffery died on 23 Nov 1860 in Melcombe Regis and left a will. He is described as a printer and bookbinder and his widow is Kingburgh Jeffery.
The 1841 census (HO107/295/16) gives his age as 30, and hers as 34; William (10), Emily (9), Charles (4), Ann (3) and Hester (2m) are with them.
Richard
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This link is about William's printing press:
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/DORSET/2002-03/1016271169
The Sherborne registers have:
23 Dec 1807
William Vincent child of William and Susan Jeffery
Richard
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There is a tree on ancestry suggesting that William married a Susanna Baker. It also has further generations going back, together with details of siblings etc.
Richard
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Thank you for all the information Richard :D
I knew that the familyīs trade was printing :)
Muffin41
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Did William JEFFERY bap. 6 Dec 1817 in Sherborne Dorset marry a Miss KINGBURGH?
I believe that his parents were William JEFFERY & Elizabeth ELLIOT who married 8 Jan 1800 All Saints' Dorchester, Dorset
Charles Fellowes JEFFERY born 1838 was William & Miss Kīs son.
Can anyone find the other members of the is family?
Muffin41
Well, it's good to see someone researching this lovely lot.
Some information (if you haven't already found it...)
William Vincent Jeffery was bap, 23 Dec 1807 in Sherborne. Kinburgh Forward Upjohn was bap, in Shaftesbury 27 March 1803. They were married in Melcombe Regis on 20 July 1829.
The William that married Susan (no marriage yet found) may have married Susanna Baker (one of their children was called Susanna rather than Susan). His parents seem to be William J and Elizabeth Ann Hart (one of their kids was Samuel Hart J). There are unfortunately 3 choices for his parents, the most likely being Thomas J and Hannah Wayfield who married in Castleton on 22 Dec 1737.
I'm still hunting for verification of all this...
Best regards, Keith Jeffery, Auckland NZ.
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Hi Keith,
Welcome to RootsChat :) I hope that the site helps you with your researchs.
My research has errors in it which I have not corrected yet. ;)
William born 1777, parents could be William Jeffery & Elizabeth Elliot - NOT CONFIRMED.
I have not been following up this family for a while now. My cousin first twice removed on motherīs side of my family and a cousin on my fatherīs side of my family married a Jeffery from Dorset.
I believe that I have found the marriage for William Jeffery & Susanna Baker, 8 Jan 1800 at All Saints, Dorchester, Dorset.
I have not researched further back than this yet.
Look forward to any more information about the other children of William & Susanna if you have it.
Happy hunting :)
Muffin41
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Hi Keith,
William born 1777, parents could be William Jeffery & Elizabeth Elliot - NOT CONFIRMED.
I have not been following up this family for a while now. My cousin first twice removed on motherīs side of my family and a cousin on my fatherīs side of my family married a Jeffery from Dorset.
I believe that I have found the marriage for William Jeffery & Susanna Baker, 8 Jan 1800 at All Saints, Dorchester, Dorset.
I have not researched further back than this yet.
Look forward to any more information about the other children of William & Susanna if you have it.
Happy hunting :)
Muffin41
Great stuff.....
William was bap. 10 Jan 1783 in Sherborne, making him 17 at the time of this marriage.
There are only three children in the Sherborne PRs, Susanna born 6 Mar 1805, bap 24 July 1805, Gabriel Baker bap 25 Oct 1809 and William Vincent bap 23 Dec 1807.
No marriage yet found for Susanna, William Vincent married Kinburgh Forward Upjohn 20 Jul 1829 in Melcombe Regis. Gabriel Baker married Alice Guppy Masters 25 Dec 1833 Sherborne.
My lot comes from the William Vincent/Kinburgh Upjohn marriage (eventually).
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I have found two references to wills on - https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills
The son of William Vincent Jeffery; Charles Fellowes Jeffery who died 2q 1886 in Weymouth.
His son; William James Samuel Jeffery who died 2q 1923 in Weymouth.
If you don't find them on this Website let me know and I can p.m. you after you have sent three postings. That is when you have replied to this message. :)
Muffin41
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Did William JEFFERY bap. 6 Dec 1817 in Sherborne Dorset marry a Miss KINGBURGH?
I believe that his parents were William JEFFERY & Elizabeth ELLIOT who married 8 Jan 1800 All Saints' Dorchester, Dorset
Charles Fellowes JEFFERY born 1838 was William & Miss Kīs son.
Can anyone find the other members of the is family?
Muffin41
A William Vincent Jeffery married Kinburgh Forward Upjohn in Melcombe Regis in 1829.
Kinburgh was born in Shaftesbury in 1803.
A couple of us looking at this family think that William Vincent Jeffery was born at Sherborne in 1807.
William Vincent Jeffery's parents are indicated as William and Susan in the Sherborne PRs.
I'm going to look at your ideas, as we've run into a brick wall with this family so new ideas are welcome.
Regards, Keith
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William Vincent Jeffery was baptised 23 Dec 1807 in Sherborne and married Kinburgh Forward Upjohn 30 Jul 1829 in Melcombe Regis, Dorset. From the 1841 & 1851 censuses they lived in Weymouth. William died 23 Nov 1860 in Melcombe Regis; Will - Kinburgh Jeffery of Melcombe Regis; widow of the Relict the sole Executrix. Effects under Ģ300.
Kinburgh Forward Jeffery died 17 Apr 1882 in Melcombe Regis, Will - Personal Estate Ģ350
Proved by William Richard Parsons Jeffery & Charles Fellowes Jeffery (Sons the Executors)
William Jeffery (father :-\) baptised 10 Jan 1783 in Sherborne married Elizabeth Elliott 8 Jan 1800 at All Saints, Dorchester. Death 3 Aug 1834 & burial 9 Aug 1834 St Mary (Abbey) Sherborne.
No other details for Elizabeth Elliott.
I hope this helps further. :D
Muffin41
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Did William JEFFERY bap. 6 Dec 1817 in Sherborne Dorset marry a Miss KINGBURGH?
I believe that his parents were William JEFFERY & Elizabeth ELLIOT who married 8 Jan 1800 All Saints' Dorchester, Dorset
Charles Fellowes JEFFERY born 1838 was William & Miss Kīs son.
Can anyone find the other members of the is family?
Muffin41
Further information, based mostly on certificates, a bit on PRs. The idea here is to track back the parents of each generation until ye olde brick wall raises its head.... At this point I'll track back the paternal version. Maternal is equally important, just more difficult..... often.
1. Harry Jeffery was born 14 Feb 1904. His parents on the birth certificate are given as Bertram Harry Jeffery and Amy Jeffery, nee Melhuish. So far so simple....
2. Bertram Harry Jeffery was born 21 May 1874. On his birth certificate and his marriage certificate his father is given as Charles Fellowes Jeffery. On his marriage certificate, his wife is given as Mary Ann Sarah Frampton. The marriage is dated 2 Apr 1861. We can not find any other Charles Fellowes around the time frames required.
3. The marriage in (2) also gives William Vincent Jeffery as Charles father.
4. Now we go to the PRs. William Vincent Jeffery has an entry in the Weymouth PRs with a baptism date of 27 August 1837 with parents of William and Kinburgh. A search for William Vincent Jeffery reveals no other William Vincent Jeffery in the dates of interest.
5. A search for the William and Kinburgh marriage, turns up only one, 30 July 1829 Melcombe Regis.
6. We're not in trouble yet. Kinburgh is Kinburgh Forward Upjohn (from the marriage with William) and her family is fairly easily traced.
7. Now we're in trouble. The William Jeffery who married Kinburgh. There are a significant number of Williams that this may be. We traced through several of these Williams and took a William Jeffery baptised in Sherborne on 23 Dec 1807. The reasons will become apparent.
8. William bap 1807 has a parentage of William and Susan.
9. A marriage search turned up a William Jeffery married a Susan Baker in Dorchester in 1800. Tracing Susan located a Susan Baker bap at Yeovil in 1783. I believe that this Susan is solid as her name and the names of her parents (Gabriel Baker and Hester Toogood) are used for several of the children further down the tree. In this scenario, William is also baptised in 1783 at Sherborne. Accepting an 1800 marriage means that both would have been 17 at marriage. Is there a license somewhere? The birth of William and Susan's first child in 1805 (also Susan) would indicate a marriage year of about 1804. Can't find one.
10 Now to William. William Jeffery bap 1807 has a parentage of William and Elizabeth. A marriage search locates William Jeffery and Elizabeth Ann Hart married 12 Dec 1776. This might not be so solid as, although the Hart name has spread through the generations, there may be other reasons it got there.
So we need to determine the details of the William who married Elizabeth Ann Hart and confirm the details of Elizabeth herself (and whether or not this projected tree is accurate).
Your thoughts would be most appreciated.
Cheers, Keith Jeffery
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My Research has come up to the same conclusions as yours except for the marriage of William Jeffery to Elizabeth Ann Elliott instead of Susan Baker.
I have not been able to find any details for Susan; which Website did you find the baptism in Yeovil on? No luck either for a marriage license or Banns for her marriage to William Jeffery. It is possible that they did not marry. :-\
Elizabeth Ann Elliott also seems to be elusive as my sources of information have not come up with anything other than the marriage to date. She may have been born in another County; there are so many possibilities to research.
Cheers, Muffin41
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My Research has come up to the same conclusions as yours except for the marriage of William Jeffery to Elizabeth Ann Elliott instead of Susan Baker.
I have not been able to find any details for Susan; which Website did you find the baptism in Yeovil on? No luck either for a marriage license or Banns for her marriage to William Jeffery. It is possible that they did not marry. :-\
Elizabeth Ann Elliott also seems to be elusive as my sources of information have not come up with anything other than the marriage to date. She may have been born in another County; there are so many possibilities to research.
Cheers, Muffin41
Hello, try this....
Dorchester, All Saints
William Jeffery of the parish of All Saints and Elizabeth Elliott of the Parish of All Saints were married by license 8 Jan 1800.
Elizabeth daughter of Robert & Elizabeth Elliott was baptised 5 Mar 1769.
Source: Dorset OPC, Dorchester.
I can't find any other references in Dorchester to either births or deaths, so they either left the parish or their deaths weren't recorded or the OPC has some mistakes.
Regards, Keith
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My Research has come up to the same conclusions as yours except for the marriage of William Jeffery to Elizabeth Ann Elliott instead of Susan Baker.
I have not been able to find any details for Susan; which Website did you find the baptism in Yeovil on? No luck either for a marriage license or Banns for her marriage to William Jeffery. It is possible that they did not marry. :-\
Elizabeth Ann Elliott also seems to be elusive as my sources of information have not come up with anything other than the marriage to date. She may have been born in another County; there are so many possibilities to research.
Cheers, Muffin41
I'm going straight by the Sherborne PRs here......
Parents: William and Susan
Children: Susan 6 Jul 1805, James 2 Jul 1806, William Vincent 23 Dec 1807.
Parents: William and Susannah
Children: Gabriel Baker 25 Oct 1809, Samuel Hart 28 Oct 1814, Hester Toogood 11 Feb 1818
Parents: William and Elizabeth
Children: John 23 Dec 1801 born 11 Nov 1800, Harriott 25 Dec 1802, Ann 24/12/1803, Isaac 12 Oct 1805 bur 25 Oct 1806, Samuel 11 Oct 1806, Elizabeth 10 Oct 1807, Samuel 25 Jan 1809, Sarah 8 Apr 1811, Isaac 10 Apr 1815, Eliza 14 Jan 1815, William 6 Dec 1817 and Mary Ann 11 Dec 1819.
If Susan and Susannah are not the same person, and assuming that Susan is the one we're after, then all the Baker bits and pieces fall away.
There's also this:
Marriage: William Jeffery and Elizabeth Brown 12 Oct 1800 at Sherborne.
There's still the issue of William Vincent's parentage. The PRs say William and Susan, not Elizabeth.
I've attached the PR original.
Oh boy, the confusion....
Cheers, Keith
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My Research has come up to the same conclusions as yours except for the marriage of William Jeffery to Elizabeth Ann Elliott instead of Susan Baker.
I have not been able to find any details for Susan; which Website did you find the baptism in Yeovil on? No luck either for a marriage license or Banns for her marriage to William Jeffery. It is possible that they did not marry. :-\
Elizabeth Ann Elliott also seems to be elusive as my sources of information have not come up with anything other than the marriage to date. She may have been born in another County; there are so many possibilities to research.
Cheers, Muffin41
I may have it. According to FreeReg there is the following at Yeovil St John:
William Jeffery of Sherborne marries Susannah Baker of this parish by license on 6 May 1804. Witnesses are Esther Baker, Charles Baker and Elizabeth Baker.
I've sent an email to the SW Heritage asking for a price to verify the marriage against the PRs, for a scan of the PR and, if possible, a scan of the license.
Regards, Keith Jeffery
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My Research has come up to the same conclusions as yours except for the marriage of William Jeffery to Elizabeth Ann Elliott instead of Susan Baker.
I have not been able to find any details for Susan; which Website did you find the baptism in Yeovil on? No luck either for a marriage license or Banns for her marriage to William Jeffery. It is possible that they did not marry. :-\
Elizabeth Ann Elliott also seems to be elusive as my sources of information have not come up with anything other than the marriage to date. She may have been born in another County; there are so many possibilities to research.
Cheers, Muffin41
Hello again... attached is the marriage entry from the Yeovil St John PRs
Cheers, Keith
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Thank you for the scan Keith it helps to fill in the gaps. :D :D
Muffin41
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Thank you for the scan Keith it helps to fill in the gaps. :D :D
Muffin41
And Susanna Baker was baptised in Chiselborough, daughter of Gabriel & Hester Baker of Yeovil on 11 Aug 1782.
A number of Baker events took place at Chiselborough or Martock because Nicholas Baker, Gabriel's father was the curate.
Cheers, Keith
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Hello,
I am looking for my great great grandfather i believe he is Frank William John Jeffery. He is the son of Gabriel Francis Masters Jeffery and Emma Bullock. Gabriel Francis is the son of Gabriel Baker Jeffery and Alice Masters.
Frank W. J. Jeffery was the master of a barge called the Mary & Kate, owned bij the English & Continental Shipping Co. Ltd. in London.
He was born in Poplar in 1859 and died(?) in 1933. He visited Zierikzee (Zeeland, The Netherlands( in the 1890's. On one occasion he knocked my great great grandmother pregnant with a boy later my mother's grandfather. (born 1895)
Looking for living relatives and pictures of the family. My mother's grandfather was called Black Leen (Leendert) because of his black hair.
Any help most welcome!
Greetings from the Netherlands,
Arwin
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Hello,
I am looking for my great great grandfather i believe he is Frank William John Jeffery. He is the son of Gabriel Francis Masters Jeffery and Emma Bullock. Gabriel Francis is the son of Gabriel Baker Jeffery and Alice Masters.
Frank W. J. Jeffery was the master of a barge called the Mary & Kate, owned bij de English & Continental Shipping Co. Ltd. in London.
He was born in Poplar in 1859 and died(?) in 1933. He visited Zierikzee (Zeeland, The Netherlands( in the 1890's. On one occasion he knocked my great great grandmother pregnant with a boy later my mother's grandfather. (born 1895)
Looking for living relatives and pictures of the family. My mother's grandfather was called Black Leen (Leendert) because of his black hair.
Any help most welcome!
Greetings from the Netherlands,
Arwin
This is one family that I didn't know about. Gabriel Francis certainly got about a bit. I have him as marrying an Eliza Fletcher at Basford in 1878 and having 5 or 6 children with her. There are then two possibilities, either he did have two marriages, or there were two Gabriel Baker Masters Jeffery. Checking census entries may clear that up.
As to pictures and other information, I don't have any as I live in Australia and have little access to other information. My sources in the UK are from another branch of the family as is my ancestry.
So, off to see what I can find.
Keith
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Hi Keith,
Gabriel was married twice, he died in Leeds in 1902. Are you related to this man?
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Hi Keith,
Gabriel was married twice, he died in Leeds in 1902. Are you related to this man?
That information I have. It looks like the Gabriel Baker Jefferys that I hypothesized may be two people are one, as the 1861 census and the 1881 census have him born in Cerne Abbas, Dorset. I guess now, I need to add Emma and any children from that marriage. So far, I've not been able to find Emma's birth. Are you able to help?
And yes, I'm related to him through Gabriel Baker's parents, William Jeffery and Susannah Baker. The relationship calculator has him a a 1st cousin, 3x removed, whatever that means.
I've found him in the 1861 and 1881 census, but not the 1871. :)
Is there any other information that I may have that will help you?
Keith
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Just in case one of you does not have this information. :D
Gabriel Francis Masters Jeffery baptism 8 Nov 1834 St Mary, Cerne Abbas, Dorset.
His marriages 1) Emma Bullock 2q 1856 West Ham 4a 7 Essex _ she was born 1839 in or near Rochford Essex.
2) Eliza Fletcher 19 Sep 1878 St Leodegarius, Basford, Nottinghamshire. She was born 1q 1839 Basford 15 422.
Son of first marriage = Frank William John Jeffery born 4q 1859 London City 1c 83. Died 1q 1914 Cardiff 11a 406
Muffin41
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Hi Keith and Muffin41!
Thanks! Muffin41 for the information about Frank William John Jeffery! That helps me allot.
Keith so we are distant cousins :)
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Just in case one of you does not have this information. :D
Gabriel Francis Masters Jeffery baptism 8 Nov 1834 St Mary, Cerne Abbas, Dorset.
His marriages 1) Emma Bullock 2q 1856 West Ham 4a 7 Essex _ she was born 1839 in or near Rochford Essex.
2) Eliza Fletcher 19 Sep 1878 St Leodegarius, Basford, Nottinghamshire. She was born 1q 1839 Basford 15 422.
Son of first marriage = Frank William John Jeffery born 4q 1859 London City 1c 83. Died 1q 1914 Cardiff 11a 406
Muffin41
I've just located the marriage between Gabriel Francis Jeffery and Emma Bullock.
West Ham All Saints, he is 22, she is 24. Date is 24 April 1856.
See attached.
Keith
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Hi Keith and Muffin41!
Thanks! Muffin41 for the information about Frank William John Jeffery! That helps me allot.
Keith so we are distant cousins :)
Yep, we surely are.... there's also one in the UK that I'm in contact with. I'll talk to him and see if he wants to communicate with you......
And so to information...
Emma Bullock was baptised 28 Aug 1831, St Mary's Lambeth London. Father is Thomas, a baker by occupation, mother is Martha. Sometime between then and 1851 they moved to West Ham Essex where, according to the 1851 census, the family lived at 1 & 2 Waterworks Road. Thomas is still a baker in 1851 although the marriage entry for Emma says that he was a Corn Merchant. Martha is missing in the 1851 census... dead? visiting?
The 1851 census provided most of the information needed.
Keith
Keith
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Keith you did a good job on the Essex marriage papers, a big thanks.
On the picture is Leendert (the man on the right), the presumed son of Frank W. J. Jeffery, my mother's grandfather. just after WOII.
Leendert died young only 55 years old, (F.W.J Jeffery was also around that age when he died).
It is known in the family that there is a heart condition, all his children, including my nanny died of heart failure. Is this a known condition in the Jeffery family?
Arwin