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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: trystan on Thursday 20 December 12 12:14 GMT (UK)
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Welcome.
Your new RootsChat is here.
We have been working for many months in the background to bring you an improved service, look and feel to your RootsChat.
RootsChat has grown beyond our expectations since it was launched over some 9 years ago in 2003.
As at today, we now have just under 200,000 members of RootsChat – an amazing number of like minded people!
The RootsChat Community is now getting on for being the largest UK based Genealogy Forum in the UK, thanks to all our members.
In order to be able to cope with the ever growing number of members, we have undertaken a massive revamp of the nuts and bolts behind what makes RootsChat what it is. We hope that these changes will make your time on RootsChat run without a hitch!
Now that you have logged back on to your new RootsChat , take time to explore. Everything is where you last left it! Your account should be as before with all your posts, personal messages, personal profile etc.
As you can imagine, with any mayor upgrade, there may be some issues which we have not anticipated or been able to test as much as we would like prior to the re-launch. We apologize in advance if you experience any problems settling back in. We are aware that there is a problem with the 'Chat' at the moment, so we have provided a link to the old ChatterBox too.
If something is a problem, let us know about it. The best way to do this is by using the Contact Support button, or by sending an email to webmaster at rootschat.com. We will aim to get back to you as quickly as we can. This may be a busy time though.
The RootsChat Team
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Trystan
It wont let me in chatroom, says its invalid name ???? :o
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Trying to find my way around at the moment :)
But firstly can I ask what's happened to the font,it's gone really tiny?
Not good for an old gal like me to try and read ;D
Carol
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Welcome.
Your new RootsChat is here.
We apologize in advance if you experience any problems settling back in. We are aware that there is a problem with the 'Chat' at the moment, so we have provided a link to the old ChatterBox too.
The RootsChat Team
Daisy see Trystans post. ;D
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Any change is going to cause a multitude of problems, large and small, and a multitude of "like" and "don't like" answers, so before we get into that, can I just a say huge Thank You to Trystan and Sarah for starting RootsChat in the first place,
and another huge Thank you to you, Trystan.
You've been working all night to update the forum and get it up and running again.
Bob
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Hey thanks Bob. Really tired now. It was really difficult at four o'clock in the morning. :(
Hope most people like it. :)
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Trystan yes thanks for all your work well done....still can't find link to OLD chat room
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I like it!! ;D
As someone who has done many, many software releases over the years, I empathise with you, Trystan!
Now, get some sleep ;)
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Trystan yes thanks for all your work well done....still can't find link to OLD chat room
Very top of the page, on the right: Chatterbox?
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Thanks for your hard work with our new look forum.
It's going to take time to get my head round it all but it looks good so far.
Love that you can now untick the check all box at the start of a search so you can select the boards you wish to search. I'm sure there are other improved features too.
Off to discover them .......
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Um, very confused at the moment. It just took me 10 minutes to find the reply button. :o (I discovered that I had to "re" log in for the REPLY button to appear ;D. )
I think it will take a while to get used to, so I will give myself time to do that before commenting,
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Looking good as although it looks as if it has all changed it really has just been updated when you look closely
Only concern is TINY writing and font has very narrow character spacing
Thanks for all the hard work always
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Wow, this looks different :D ;D
Thanks for all your hard work, Trystan & Sarah. Now to re-train my head as to how the site looks... :D
Gaie
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New look is ok but hard to find things like my unread replies
I DO NOT LIKE the new font in Red/Brown - too tall, poor colour choice and seems to render with variable thickness on this computer giving really poor appearance
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Did I say something wrong? If so, it was unintentional ...
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I think the new look is superb. Well done to all concerned.
Also, congratulations on setting all this up in the first place. You should be very proud of your achievement.
Mike
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I think it looks great - thanks everyone for the hard work to make us look very 21st century!
For those having problems with the 'small font' you can zoom in closer by pressing Ctrl and the + key simultaneously on your keyboard. To zoom out press Ctrl and the - (minus) key.
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I really like it! I like how the 'stickys' are now much easier to see, and the font doesn't bother me. It looks much fresher and cleaner - we'll all get used to it before long, and wonder what the old one looked like!
PS - love the quick links bit at the bottom, it's much easier to jump to forums from there!
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Hi,
Sorry but at the moment I am not liking this.
Too ''busy'' and hard to negotiate, font too small.
Leanne
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Blimey what has happened? too much in one go :-\
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Closed for updates.....you weren't kidding. :D ;D ;D
Take a few minutes to get used to the new layout, and no doubt there'll be some grumbles........from the site and members. ::)
Looks great, so now for a scratch around. ;) :)
Happy Chrimbo all. :)
Steve. :)
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One good thing is the mobile site
I dislike the thin red font so much will have to use the mobile site on my desktop
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I like it - thanks, Trystan and Sarah, I'm guessing it was a marathon effort :) ...
Just one thing; - ... the "embarrassed" emoticon isn't appearing. On my screen, there's a rectangular box, landscape and quite wide, with a little picture in it, and the picture has a strike-through. Might just be my computer, though?
Oh, ... and Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
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Font and colours are OK for me. It does seems quite 'busy', but site looks more professional. There is only one thing I don't like so far.
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A bit of a shock to the system right now - feel as if someone has stolen my favourite old jumper and given me a brand new one which is uncomfortable and itchy!!
Guess I'll get used to it in time.
Annette
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It came as a massive shock to me this morning. Thought I was in the wrong place! I'll get used to it in time
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I've now made the Fonts a bit bigger now (press function key F5 to reload).
Trystan
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Is it me or has the TOT disappeared? Surely not permanently. Maybe I am just lost :-\. That has appeared now (must have been because I had to re register ::) )
I have no embarrassed either, but I don't need it :D
Cannot see 'new ' on new posts, but maybe I just need to get used to it. ::)... OK so they're there ;D ::)
mostly good tho' and I am sure as someone said, we will get used to it ;)
Thanks and Happy Christmas Trystan and Sarah.
Helen
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Is it me or has the TOT disappeared? Surely not permanently. Maybe I am just lost :-\.
No - it's still there.
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Thanks Mike - it appearted after I re-registered at someones suggestion. Now I have everything I think! ;D
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Thanks for all your hard work, Trystan & Sarah.and a big thanks to the nembers who give up all there time to help in any way to beginners like myself, you all desreve all the praise you all get
bless you all and merry xmas and most of all thank you :) :) :)
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Ah, just found the reply button ;D. Merry Christmas Trystan and Sarah and thank you for your hard work on the new layout.
George.
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Obviously the re design took more than one packet of biscuits, still getting used to the changes but hope you won't get too many teething problems
Regards panda
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Love the new look, i've just one problem, when i click on forum and then go to unread topics i only get one topic that was posted today.
I know i can read the new topics as they come on the home board but (as a "don't want to miss anything" person) i do like to check .... just in case :D :D
Jo
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Hi, many thanks for all of your hard work in setting up the new rootschat site :) :) :).
I like it, it seems so much fresher than the "Old model".
:) ;) :D ;D 8)
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Now I've had a good look, I like nearly all of it. Thank you for all the hard work.
Only one problem, and I might have missed it - I can't look at my profile (previous posts, etc.). All I can get are the various look and layout details pages. I can see others but not mine :-\
brevitas
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I missed you while you were off drinking tea and eating biscuits, and you can do whatever you like because RootsChat is my favourite site - I enjoy just reading the posts and learning about family history, even when it not my own!
Best wishes to all, Anne
Ps. The font is large and easy to read on my IPad :D
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Love the new look, i've just one problem, when i click on forum and then go to unread topics i only get one topic that was posted today.
I know i can read the new topics as they come on the home board but (as a "don't want to miss anything" person) i do like to check .... just in case :D :D
Jo
Sorry found another "unread" button to click on near the login - not quite sure why there are two on the page but the second one works a treat.
Jo :-\
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The "unread" at the top left near the login/logout is for the whole forum,
the "unread" on the right is for that board only (if I've understood you correctly :) )
Bob
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Wow :o. Massive shock this morning but having had a quick look around I am sure its just a case of getting used to the new look and layout. Obviously much thought and hardwork has gone into the revamp. Thank you to all involved.
A very Happy Christmas from Malta to all my Rootschat friends 8).
Luzzu
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I really like it! I like how the 'stickys' are now much easier to see, and the font doesn't bother me. It looks much fresher and cleaner - we'll all get used to it before long, and wonder what the old one looked like!
PS - love the quick links bit at the bottom, it's much easier to jump to forums from there!
Same here far to much on the page. Having to scroll down to far to search items. If it aint broke
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Sorry Trystan after all your hard work, am I the only one brave enough to say I don't like the new website? :'( Please return the print to black on the topic boards, the colour (whatever it is called) is very hard to read. Usually I scan through the list of Unread Topics to see if there are any I'm interested in, but I gave up today as the different font colours and sizes on a bluish-grey background made it difficult to read through quickly. Also I don't know if it is my laptop, but there is a grey stripe either side of the web page. I can get rid of it by increasing the font size to a ridiculously large size but that's obviously not the answer.
Lizzie
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Thanks for all your hard work I am sure we will get used to it in time . Now to have a good look around the site Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Take Care Lynette
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The "unread" at the top left near the login/logout is for the whole forum,
the "unread" on the right is for that board only (if I've understood you correctly :) )
Bob
Thanks , Bob, all makes perfect sense when you know!
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Many thanks to all the team for your hard work.
Overall I like the changes, though it will take a while to find my way around, but:
1)The "unread" posts listing now seems awash with different fonts & colours and to me has lost clarity. In particular the line between posts in almost invisible (white against off-white on my screen). As this is my usual route into the site I'm finding it hard to spot posts that are of interest or that I might be able to help with.
2)As others have said the borders either side of the forum which as far as I can see have one item the "Contact Support" button, seem a huge waste of screen space
3)Huge text on home page - the size makes me want to back away from my screen!
4)Instead of the emoticon I've got the word embarrassed in between the other santas.
Sorry to be critical - overall I think it's an improvement though!
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Also I don't know if it is my laptop, but there is a grey stripe either side of the web page.
Hi Lizzie :)
I've got a grey stripe down either side too so its not your laptop. I thought it was part of the design though.
Luzzu
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Oh lovely - you can search PMs and Prune :D
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Phew........I hope you managed to upgrade your biscuits at the same time. ;) Slowly finding my way round........ ;)
I've also got the grey stripes and "embarrassed" in the santa emoticons.
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Hi
I am getting use to it, but I can't see my prevous past posts
Margp
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mshrmh - You said everything I was trying to say, although much more succinctly than I did.
Lizzie
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I can't find a link to previous past posts either.
Annette
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Yes one of the embarrassed Emoticons is not working at the moment - so no
embarrassing posts until we get get it fixed ;D
What some of you is describing as grey boarders is a background, this helps when presenting the website on all the different devices people are using.
The contact support button is large because if anyone is having problems it will be over the next day or two whilst we fix the little problems like the smilies.
Sarah
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Hi
I am getting use to it, but I can't see my prevous past posts
Margp
I can't see my past posts and stats but I can see the past posts of other members.
Luzzu
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Hi
I am getting use to it, but I can't see my prevous past posts
Margp
Likewise :)
It must have been a great deal of hardwork to make such huge changes.
It will take us some time to get used to it all but we do look more "21st century"
However, like MargP, I'm concerned that I can't find my previous postings, as there is a great deal of useful information contained in them.
Perhaps some kind soul can point us in the right direction?
Merry Christmas everyone :D
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3)Huge text on home page - the size makes me want to back away from my screen!
I know some people asked for a change to a bigger font, but as mshrmh says, it makes me want need to back away from the screen to get it in focus. Probably Ok on screens the size of matchboxes! Is there a setting anywhere that I can reduce the font?
Apart from those, I think I'll get used to the changes.
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Hi
I am getting use to it, but I can't see my prevous past posts
Margp
I can't see my past posts and stats but I can see the past posts of other members.
Luzzu
I've found a way around it temporarily - you have to log out and then click on your name as a Guest :)
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3)Huge text on home page - the size makes me want to back away from my screen!
I know some people asked for a change to a bigger font, but as mshrmh says, it makes me want need to back away from the screen to get it in focus. Probably Ok on screens the size of matchboxes! Is there a setting anywhere that I can reduce the font?
Also, the ads placed randomly thoughout the threads are a bit disconcerting, but I 'spose the bills have to be paid.
Apart from those, I think I'll get used to the changes.
Yup, pretty much my view too.
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To find your posts, Click on the "Profile button" at the top of the site, and under your profile picture you will see your posts.
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Thank you, for whatever you have done; but I find it a bit scary! :) but I'll get used to it ;)
People's profile on the left of the screen seems to take up a lot of room; just the one comment, for now.
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Sorry, but the font is definitely too large for me. I know I can shrink it, but it seems too large as a the default font.
Jane
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This is awful I have no idea what I'm doing and can't find anything. Where is the new replies button that used to be at the top of the board? I'm in a total panic. Nothing is where it used to be >:( :'(
Jan ;)
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This is awful I have no idea what I'm doing and can't find anything. Where is the new replies button that used to be at the top of the board? I'm in a total panic. Nothing is where it used to be >:( :'(
Jan ;)
You will see the "replies" button up on the top left. Everything is still there.
Karen
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Thanks for the hard work to maintain the forum.
I'm finding the 'new' hard work to read - the red subject titles stand out less than the name of the poster and the font is squashed up. When reading a thread, the members interests are too prominent and get in the way, in addition there is a lot of clutter between and around the posts. Hard to follow a thread with so much distraction.
I also can't seem to type or view in a 'regular' sized font, this is typing and reading in large print, whereas I had no trouble with the previous set up.
This is going to sound like a moan, but is intended as feedback. I enjoy reading threads on rootschat, but can't see this new version as being so enjoyable, sorry.
Lisa
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To see if you have new replies to your topic...click forum and its there on the right side. Took me a bit to find it too.
Annie
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Sorry Annie, see replies #62, #63
The button on the right is only for new replies on that particular board :)
regards,
Bob
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To find your posts, Click on the "Profile button" at the top of the site, and under your profile picture you will see your posts.
Nope still can't see it?
Get the opportunity to edit all the various aspects of my profile but no link to 'My previous posts'
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I was just looking around some more, clicked on Worcestershire look up requests and that section still showed in the old format - just so much clearer, to see what was asked and how many replies, the layout and everything so much clearer.
Lisa
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What some of you is describing as grey boarders is a background, this helps when presenting the website on all the different devices people are using.
OK, bit disconcerting on a laptop or PC though. Is it possible to make it less obtrusive, maybe a paler grey. This is what I'm seeing at the moment on each side of the webpage. Hope it loads OK, I'm have real trouble with my broadband today, it's not my laptop, I checked on OH's PC and it's the same there.
And another problem, I got the usual message about another reply being posted, and that I may wish to review my post. Normally, I would just scroll down, read the new posts and if my reply was still relevant post it. When I tried to do that just now, I found that my attachment had disappeared, so I had to re-attach, only then to get a message telling me there was already an attachment of that name, so I had to re-name it.
I'm assuming these are all just "hiccups" which will be sorted out.
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This is awful I have no idea what I'm doing and can't find anything. Where is the new replies button that used to be at the top of the board? I'm in a total panic. Nothing is where it used to be >:( :'(
Jan ;)
You will see the "replies" button up on the top left. Everything is still there.
Karen
Thanks :)
I will calm down eventually but I find change very hard to deal with. I know Trystan has put in a lot of hard work but so many changes at once is very hard for my poor brain :(
Jan ;)
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Hi
Can i first say thankyou for all the hard work on updating the Website ..
But can i say that am not over Keen on the new website i Just find it a Bit Fussy and Cramped .. Maybe its because i suffer with bad eyesite and things that are cramped give me headaches ... am sure i will get used it in time
and again thankyou for your hard work
Regards
Iria
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Threads that the user has posted in are no longer visible?
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I see that we can change the font size on replies, - but can we alter font size for the whole Site?
(I find it a tad small at the moment).
Cheers, Romilly. :-\
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Threads that the user has posted in are no longer visible?
Top left - "Replies"! ;D
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Trystan is to be commended for his efforts but it looks a bit like a site selling coins & medals, the last time I saw so many crowns on a label was on a bottle of South African port @ 14/6d.
I find the red lettering a wee bit sore on the eyes but fine otherwise.
Bests,
Skoosh.
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I see that we can change the font size on replies, - but can we alter font size for the whole Site?
(I find it a tad small at the moment).
Cheers, Romilly. :-\
Yes, hold down the Ctrl button on your keyboard and press the + sign two or three times. To shrink the print, hold down Ctrl and press - key (next to + key on my keyboard).
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To shrink the print, hold down Ctrl and press - key (next to + key on my keyboard).
Thank you, that's much better :)
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Hi all
Just thought I would try the "new look" site. I can see you have worked incredibly hard. Well done. A bit of a shock at the mo - but I'll sure we'll all come to love it. My only gripe is all the advert strips through the topics. >:( Not likin' them!
Cheers CD
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I find the red lettering a wee bit sore on the eyes but fine otherwise.
That's strange, mine's all in black or blue, apart from posters' names, which is in red/brown
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Rootschat for mobiles too ! Well done, Trystan :)
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I find the red lettering a wee bit sore on the eyes but fine otherwise.
That's strange, mine's all in black or blue, apart from posters' names, which is in red/brown
Thank goodness you said that!
I was wondering what I was missing? ;D
I get same as you all blue and black, with poster's names in red-brown.
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Rootschat for mobiles too ! Well done, Trystan :)
Excellent isn't it!
Karen :)
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Threads that the user has posted in are no longer visible?
Top left - "Replies"! ;D
So....I'm in the Photo Restoration board, and click the "Replies" button, and I see EVERY thread I've ever posted in...including Deciphering, Antrim, Canada, Armed Forces and ToT...all mixed in together??
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Rootschat for mobiles too ! Well done, Trystan :)
Yea!! Nick - delighted you found the mobile side of it, we've wanted to "GoMobi" for ages now. :) :)
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Yuk
Horrible font, all squashed up
Really hate the new design
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The red lettering I found irritating is on the unread subject headings.
Skoosh.
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That was a bit of a shcok finding I had to log in. Gonna take a bit of time to get used to the new layout. As I have a wide screen monitor the posts look small - or the grey bands bit too wide :) - but one thing I have found is not so good to me . The photos on 'These sunny days...' threads all look quite small, is this normal or do we have to click on the picture to make them bigger?
Anyway Thanks Trstan and Sarah for all you hard work especially trying to please all of us RCer's in one go.
Jean
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Well done Rootschat Team.................
I think the new changes are brilliant, it looks really up-to-date and modern 8)
My only grumble is the "chat" won't let me log-in, says I'm an invalid user (yet I'm logged in here!!!) :o
Other than that.......Marvellous
Merry Christmas & heres to a happy 2013
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I've had a look round the 'new look', and like when I joined FB, it took a while to work out. On the whole, I like it; we did discuss the logo previously, with the letter C needing to be in capitals, but maybe the bosses thought not. That's about my only negative comment.
If you don't like it folks, explore it, get used to it. I don't have a posh mobile, so that aspect passes me by, but for people that do, it must be a good change.
I found the new font very large, but Ctrl and minus or plus can alter that. And it was done for people with poorer eye-sight, so another good move by the bosses !
And BEST OF ALL !! Its an excellent site full of friendly people, and IT'S FREE !!!
Thank you Trystan and the others who have worked on this. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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The photos on 'These sunny days...' threads all look quite small, is this normal or do we have to click on the picture to make them bigger?
This reply was on the photo board:
The ultimate physical size for a photo without having to use the scroll is 690w X 920h.
Bob
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My only grumble is the "chat" won't let me log-in, says I'm an invalid user (yet I'm logged in here!!!) :o
The chatroom feature is not currently working, but I'm sure it will be shortly...so Keep Calm and Search On ;D
Karen
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I like it! :)
A couple of hiccups:
When I first came on the text was a little too small but that was soon fixed.
I pressed the 'MOBI' button to see what it was like and found it an interesting way to look at things. I had all sorts of trouble getting back ... could we perhaps have a 'NOT MOBI' somewhere on the MOBI layout? If you have the same trouble scroll right down to the bottom and hit the "Go to full site" button.
Overall I like it a lot - it's fresh and modern and attractive without being too garish. I think some of the colouring and sizing needs some minor tweaks but overall some excellent work.
I think the banner graphic is a bit too screen-hungry for my liking but just a bit.
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Hi sarah and trystan, and thank you for all your hard work :)
Just one point:
To find your posts, Click on the "Profile button" at the top of the site, and under your profile picture you will see your posts.
This only seems to work on other people's profiles. If I select my own profile there is nothing at all to click on for my own past posts :-\
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Hi JenB
I agree with you, I can click on your profile and there is "Show posts", and "Show Stats" but that page appears to be missing on my own profile. If I click on Profile at the top of the page, I can scroll through 3 or 4 pages of my profile but still no "Show posts".
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Oh dear. It's very cluttered. It's difficult to see the actual posts for the information all over the place.
Not at all sure I'll get to like it.
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Where do I find the unread replies to my posts? edit: ok found it.
The profile button is giving, summary, account settings and forum profile.
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I got quite a surprise when RootsChat came up. There seemed to be a lot of screen acreage not being used. However, I use Firefox as a browser; this has a +/- button which can be placed on the menu and used to increase or decrease the size of the screen content. This got rid of the totally surplus strips of wasted grey on either side of the screen. So I now have the "large print" version of the site on my screen.
After stumbling around the new site layout for a half an hour or so, I'm afraid the only printable thought that crossed my mind was "If it ain't broke, why fix it?"
The new logo from a few weeks back is very nice.
PatB.
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Pat - it's a wonder why anybody redecorates their house really. :)
(Screen width is the same as the BBC News website)
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Crumbs! what a shock! wasn't prepared for soooo much change, but been dipping in and out today and am getting used to things - except suddenly getting the old format now and again :o
Not grumbling - just struggling with the pinky brown tall thin font, the letters seem to run into each other :'( praps I need new specs.
Is there any way we can have the 'unread posts' link back at the top of the page please? I'll even send biccies as a bribe if necessary ;D
It would be interesting know if it is those of us of a 'certain age' who take longer to adjust to change.
Suey
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Trystan - I am getting used to the new layout and have enlarged the print size to lessen the grey side stripes, but not being particularly au fait with the workings of computers (I can use one, as I can drive a car, but I have no idea how either of them work ::) ) but isn't the BBC News website, or any other website, only the size you/your computer wants it to be. For instance some people fill their screens with whatever site they are using, whereas I have two screens open at once, for instance the internet and my e-mail inbox, but it could be Legacy and Word. So my BBC News website is probably smaller than yours and, as my OH has a very large screen for his PC, although he too has two screens open at once, both the screens he has open are larger than my laptop.
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Is there any way we can have the 'unread posts' link back at the top of the page please? I'll even send biccies as a bribe if necessary ;D
Suey
It is :)
Karen
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I think I like the more "modern" magazine- style appearance! However I'm not too keen on the grey side panels.
Regards
Croxia
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It would be interesting know if it is those of us of a 'certain age' who take longer to adjust to change.
I think it's probably those of us of a "certain age" who are finding the new colours difficult on the topic lists on the boards.
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Why will it not let me back in?
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Why will it not let me back in?
Are you talking about the chatroom? If so, it is currently not working, but check back later to see if it is.
Karen
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but isn't the BBC News website, or any other website, only the size you/your computer wants it to be.
No, it's a fixed width, the same width as this site. The 'grey bits' are 'white bits' on their site.
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Blimey what a shock when I opened Rootschat from my book marks ;D Thanks Trystan I'm sure we'll all get used to it in time ;)
Jane
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;D I'm falling about laughing ;D ;D ;D ;D I didn't use the word, 'blimey' on my post but an abbreviation for another word & it's censored me ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Jane
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same here Jane. o m g :D
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HA! It got you :)
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That's the one hulme-griff ;D ;D ;D ;D
jane
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but isn't the BBC News website, or any other website, only the size you/your computer wants it to be.
No, it's a fixed width, the same width as this site. The 'grey bits' are 'white bits' on their site.
Isn't it strange though. After years of hardware manufacturers selling us wide screens for PCs and on laptops, and websites working on a "screen width percentage" basis (i.e. an element of the website takes up - say - 80% of your screen width - whatever width that may be). Now websites (like BBC News) have started working on a fixed width, meaning the wider your screen the more of the wasted white space you see. ???
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I DO appreciate how wonderful Roots has been to me over the years and all the work that is done on our behalf. Thank you and I am grateful for the wonderful contacts made ... BUT I am an O.F and it takes a long while for me to remember how to switch my computer on these days. So ALL these changes without being warned, is a real shock to they system.
I wish all a Happy Christmas, and will be back, (if allowed :-\) after I have spent some time in a dark corner ....
xin
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Isn't it strange though. After years of hardware manufacturers selling us wide screens for PCs and on laptops, and websites working on a "screen width percentage" basis (i.e. an element of the website takes up - say - 80% of your screen width - whatever width that may be). Now websites (like BBC News) have started working on a fixed width, meaning the wider your screen the more of the wasted white space you see.
I don't have any of these "modern gadgets" myself, but - speaking generally - I wonder if it has a lot do with the all these new phones and tablets and kindles, that on the one hand you have the bigger and bigger monitors, but all modern websites must now also cater for "small is beautifull" too.
Bob
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No, it's a fixed width, the same width as this site. The 'grey bits' are 'white bits' on their site.
Trystan - What I meant was we each view them at whatever size our screen is, or in my case, whatever size I choose to make the sites. I've just opened the BBC news page, however the BBC name etc. stretches across the top of the screen, with no 'white bits' although I agree there are white bits in the body of the webpage but the background of the page is also white, so they are not obvious. Perhaps if you could change the background and the sides to grey on here, people would find it easier to read the new coloured fonts on various pages.
Sorry to appear to be a pain, but there are always teething problems when things, especially computers change, and they often need tweeking. :D
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Trystan, could we please have the yellow (or whatever colour you'd like) indicator back on the boards to show what threads we have posted in? It's not very helpful to have them all mixed in together.
I have almost 11,000 posts, 90% of them as a photo dater. Do you have any idea how many threads are simply titled "Please date photo"? ...or "Please restore"? Without the yellow indicator it's impossible to tell them apart. Also some people reply to threads that are a year old...we'd never recognize the title after that much time. It's hard enough to remember a thread title from yesterday.
The problem is especially prominent on the Photo board. I'm not going to be the only one unable to tell apart the myriad "Please restore photo" threads.
Cheers,
China
Cheers,
China
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Isn't it strange though. After years of hardware manufacturers selling us wide screens for PCs and on laptops, and websites working on a "screen width percentage" basis (i.e. an element of the website takes up - say - 80% of your screen width - whatever width that may be). Now websites (like BBC News) have started working on a fixed width, meaning the wider your screen the more of the wasted white space you see.
I don't have any of these "modern gadgets" myself, but - speaking generally - I wonder if it has a lot do with the all these new phones and tablets and kindles, that on the one hand you have the bigger and bigger monitors, but all modern websites must now also cater for "small is beautifull" too.
Bob
I tend to agree Bob. But when the sites concerned also have a mobile version, isn't there the risk of alienating the users of "traditional" equipment. After all, there is a clue in the name - world WIDE web! ;)
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:-\ i liked the old way
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but isn't the BBC News website, or any other website, only the size you/your computer wants it to be.
No, it's a fixed width, the same width as this site. The 'grey bits' are 'white bits' on their site.
Isn't it strange though. After years of hardware manufacturers selling us wide screens for PCs and on laptops, and websites working on a "screen width percentage" basis (i.e. an element of the website takes up - say - 80% of your screen width - whatever width that may be). Now websites (like BBC News) have started working on a fixed width, meaning the wider your screen the more of the wasted white space you see. ???
I just don't get it!
Have to put my specs on just to read a text message!! ;D ::)
Couldn't imagine how I'd cope with TV or internet on my phone!
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Trystan, could we please have the yellow (or whatever colour you'd like) indicator back on the boards to show what threads we have posted in? It's not very helpful to have them all mixed in together.
Cheers,
China
Yes, thanks for spotting this - we will put in on the job list that we will be tackling. It's very useful at a glance to see the posts we have taken part in.
Trystan
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Fab work Trystan and team. I appreciate the hard work and time put in to this upgrade But as a Dyslexic I find the main Site FAR to busy especially that some signature lines are bigger then the post lol .
It's NOT a problem as I changed to mobile version on my 19" screen No adds NO sig lines. very clean and simple FANTASTIC. Well Done
p.s. when will chat be back I'm getting withdrawal symptoms lol
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I'm still finding my way around.
I still haven't found my past posts but will continue looking.
Do we need to have 'new' after each county? As they are not part of the same word/image the 'new' can appear on the next line. Surely having the county name in bold is enough to show that new posts have been made since you last viewed that board.
Some people say the font is too small others too big ??? I've tried adjusting the font size which I find a bit small but if I make it bigger then the headings are too large. The tall font used in the headings, especially in red, is not easy on the eyes.
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Agreed ReadyDale, and out of curiosity I would be very interested to know what percentage would 'work', ie post - both new, and replies to others - on the mobile gadgets rather than wait till they have a desktop/laptop, and the time to do a 'proper' job.
I'm not a Luddite by any means but mobiles are great for a quick check in to see what's afoot, but that's all, or are we going to see posts in txt-spk from now on.
No good doing real research running down the street. Just my opinion.
Susan living in hope of not being shot down
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Yuk
Horrible font, all squashed up
Really hate the new design
I agree! And I hate the colour scheme with all that brown, so dark and depressing!
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The funny old thing about human nature and resistance to change is that in 5, 7, or whatever number of years time that the next big refresh of the website takes place, people will invariably look back and comment fondly on the new look revealed today! :)
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Trystan, could we please have the yellow (or whatever colour you'd like) indicator back on the boards to show what threads we have posted in? It's not very helpful to have them all mixed in together.
Cheers,
China
Yes, thanks for spotting this - we will put in on the job list that we will be tackling. It's very useful at a glance to see the posts we have taken part in.
Trystan
Thankee kindly, Trystan :)
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PS. Don't want to complain too much as I think RootsChat is a wonderful idea, and say so to those I meet who have never heard of it, BUT, can I just say that I don't like the stars either. Not as pretty as they were, a bit too deputy-like.
I'll shut up now. :-[ :-X
Red post. not exactly resistance to change gaffy, but it should be beneficial to the majority.
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Do you like the "Top" button near the bottom that wizzes you to the top?
You can also search your personal messages now too. :)
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Where's that then trystan? Can't see it.
Not that I use it myself, I use the home button.
Scratch that, just noticed it but not very obvious, especially to anyone with dodgy eyesight, or colour blind. Brown in Black?
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Trystan and Sarah don't need me to answer for them but...
I imagine most of the real changes to the site have been behind the scenes, bringing the technology up to date. I've had a few quick looks around the site and with one exception,* everything that worked well before works just as well and in a very similar way to before. As for the different colours, fonts etc - it's often good just to refresh things from time to time and soon you won't even notice the difference. Personally I like the fonts and colours.
Having the information in a central page set against a background is a very normal solution these days, and ensures that the page displays correctly on a wide range of screens.
* The exception is the way the photos display in the restoration section -having to click on a thumbnail and then getting a picture constrained by scroll bars isn't a step forward, in my opinion but, again, it won't take long to get used to it and there may be good technical reasons why this was felt necessary.
Mike
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So, just cruising around I find I have a query.
Why is it that if I take the MOBI option above I see everything spread wonderfully across the whole page?
Then there is a button taking one back to the full site, ie this one.
The other looks better on my 22" screen than this does, and in blue. That grey at the side of this makes my screen look dirty, and yes I admit that there may be a little dust, but not that much ;)
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Haven't found "MOBI option" yet :P
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(Haven't read all this thread so apologies if this is already covered)
Initially I found it hard to view the new site. However I found reducing the size to 90% makes it much easier for me to view. Just thought I would mention in case others were having difficulty to viewing and this may help them.
Thank you to the midnight workers for all their hard work on the new site.
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Up top right China, above the badges, next to the 'f'.
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Thanks for all the hard work. I came to the site 18 minutes before it came back on line this morning UK time and I LOVED the countdown clock - a lovely touch.
Am just finding my way around having got back in but have to say in posting this reply I can read my typing more clearly so at the moment my font size on this laptop is good ( I need good size cos of my eyes.
Off to explore the rest of the site. This revamp should keep us all out of mischief in the lulls in the Christmas festivities :)
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Didn't recognise the green F to be Face book :-\
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Thanks msr, found it.
Had no idea what it was, though..."Mobi" seems to be a Britishism or something. Doesn't translate.
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Thanks msr, found it.
Had no idea what it was, though..."Mobi" seems to be a Britishism or something. Doesn't translate.
Mobile - it's for viewing on your phone etc...
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Good job it's not a whale China. Now that would be a step too far.
Expect it's to cover all mobile devices. :-\
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Just been on one of the County boards - Durham - and it comes up in the old format- are admin aware of that ?
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Thanks msr, found it.
Had no idea what it was, though..."Mobi" seems to be a Britishism or something. Doesn't translate.
Mobile - it's for viewing on your phone etc...
Yeah, I get it now. Never heard it before, doesn't seem to be in use here.
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HA! It says MOBILE now ;D ;D ;D
But when I use it, all the "New" buttons disappear.
Trys, your baby needs burping ;D ;D ;D
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Just been on one of the County boards - Durham - and it comes up in the old format- are admin aware of that ?
Europe and the Rest of the World seems to be alright - maybe it's something to do with it being "the Old Country" ;D
Bob
ps. I think Admin does know :)
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Hi
Used to be when you looked at your own profile you could see a list of all the boards you were watching - can't find that on here. Have I just missed it?
Lady Nicotine
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Yup, okay, just ignore my previous post - have now answered my own question :-[
Lady N
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Never mind :P
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Only use it if you are on your mobile. It's hasn't even been 24 hours, give it a chance.
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When you are in normal view, there is a button to switch to mobile. Would it be possible to have a similar button to switch back to normal view?
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Well, I'm loving it. Much easier to navigate. Many thanks for your hard work.
Kate :)
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When you are in normal view, there is a button to switch to mobile. Would it be possible to have a similar button to switch back to normal view?
There is..."switch back to full version"
Karen
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Is there any way we can have the 'unread posts' link back at the top of the page please? I'll even send biccies as a bribe if necessary ;D
Suey
It is :)
Karen
Durrr - Thanks Karen I see it now ::)
Suey
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The Shrink Link does not appear to be working
Stan
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Has anyone worked out how to read our own previous postings yet?
Like others have said, I can view other peoples postings by looking under their profile but when it comes to my own all I get access to is the threads I have written on over the years but not the individual posts. Sometimes you don't want to read the entire thread again just a small portion of it and it's nice to be able to see individual postings to be able to do this.
Hope this post makes sense ::) a bit hard to explain what I mean really ::)
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We were warned well in advance, asked our opinion
We were??
I saw two posts about "we're shutting down in a few minutes"...that was it.
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The Shrink Link does not appear to be working
Stan
Thanks Stan - I'll work on that.
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Has anyone worked out how to read our own previous postings yet?
Thanks for that - we are aware of that, and we will fix that. :)
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Have you had any sleep yet, Trystan? :)
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Sad to see you have changed something that was wonderful and perfect :'(
:-\
Althea
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Have you had any sleep yet, Trystan? :)
I tried to this afternoon, but my mind was just too busy. This is my second day being awake. :(
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Have another cuppa and half-a-dozen biccies...you'll be okay :)
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I think I've gone off Hobnobs now.... no, not really.
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Sad to see you have changed something that was wonderful and perfect :'(
:-\
Althea
All that's changed is the layout, it's still the best genealogy site on the internet :)
Same people, same hobby :)
Karen
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Actually the biccies was supposed to be amusing...it's really best to avoid sugar. Sugar and simple carbohydrates raise your blood sugar quickly, and when your insulin gets through clearing it all up, there isn't much left and you'll crash.
Of course, you knew that ;D
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Dear Althea,
It is a lovely comment to say that the old side was wonderful and perfect, we have so many members and postings we were having problems with the old site going slow and also the old technology was only allowing so many people to chat at once in the old chatroom. Our aim with new site is to increase speed of posting, searching and extra functionality and allow other people to use the site who couldn't before.
Try not to be scared we will help you out.
Regards
Sarah ;)
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Sad to see you have changed something that was wonderful and perfect :'(
:-\
Althea
Wonderful it may have been - and still is - but the old site was far from perfect!
Slow at times, and limitations on the numbers logged on.
Personally I think it's looking good ;D
A few teething problems, but nothing that can't be fixed.
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Has anyone worked out how to read our own previous postings yet?
Thanks for that - we are aware of that, and we will fix that. :)
Thanks Trystan...... it was a good facility and we do need it back.
Merry Christmas to you :D
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We were warned well in advance, asked our opinion
We were??
I saw two posts about "we're shutting down in a few minutes"...that was it.
Sorry, I meant that we were warned that changes were afoot -
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,627122.0.html
I don't think we quite understood just how drastic they turned out to be :o
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As with all things that are new and change it takes a while to get into a different mindset. I have no issues with the change except trying to work out how to find something I posted previously as I want to add some information to it. I used to get to this through the profile. I have searched in and out (used the help which is still giving help for the old format! :-) ) and cannot find the way to get to it!
Sigh,
Merry Xmas to you all and a Happy and prosperous New Year to every Rootschater out there!
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Yes, sorry about that, we're going to fix it.
Your posts:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=157177
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Well, I'm not in here every day. Not at all. Now I find a whole new look and seventeen pages about it.
Haven't read this thread. No need to. Knew it would exist. All I want to say is (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n201/ptpc/thgrinning-smiley-003.gif) Love it!
Looks fresh and new. And, as for the ability to click back to the title board, having reached the bottom of a thread? God send! At last!
Dunno what everyone else is saying. But I like it a lot!
Thanks, Trystan :)
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Yes, they all love it!!! :D ::)
Thank you so much!
Trystan
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... except trying to work out how to find something I posted previously as I want to add some information to it. I used to get to this through the profile.
This only seems to apply to our own profiles, so, as someone suggested in a previous post,
as a temporary measure, open up a different browser to the one you are now using, so you go on as a guest. Find any one of your posts and click on your name. There you will get your previous posts.
Bob
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The one thing I am finding difficult is the grey background,the type doesn't appear jet black and my eyes don't like it.This may be a problem for older eyes
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It is very pretty and like all such forum changes it will take time to adjust to and time too perfect. The Spectator set about modernising its blog, the Coffeehouse, a couple of years back and they have gone through one awful transition after another losing 90% of the commenters on the way.
However, I have been a Rootschatter for over 8 years now and some variety is welcome.
Whilst I am here - a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you all.
Hack
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The one thing I am finding difficult is the grey background
Have you noticed on any thread that replies alternate between very pale pink and very pale grey (or is it blue?)
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You've already brought up this topic, Lizzie-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,628304.msg4763150.html#msg4763150
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Well done on all the hard work! Will enjoy exploring! :)
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Not sure about the red/brown font for the thread names but it's definately saving posts faster than previously and changing pages too. ;D I like the new layout too.
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I like it as well, but it will obviously take a bit of time finding the way around. Thanks for all the hard work.
What I want to know is how many cries for help have you had from people who have forgotten their password? That caught me by surprise when I turned on earlier as I never usually log out. Had to flick through my trusty notebook to find it. ;D ;D
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No, they don't all love it :)
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I rarely log out, in fact only when someone else is using my laptop. Sometimes though, I find myself uexpectedly logged out. Don't know if it happens to others as well. I have variations on one theme for all my website passwords so it's just a matter of remembering which one it is for RC!
I'm not sure why my orginal comment, which I made earlier in this thread, was deleted. It was a genuine question and not intended to be contentious. Maybe some time when the mods are less busy, someone could tell me what I said which was so wrong?
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Re: tracing previous posts by me. I have done as Sarah suggested earlier (ie)
To find your posts, Click on the "Profile button" at the top of the site, and under your profile picture you will see your posts.
It doesn't work for me as all I am seeing is my profile and an invitation to modify it
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Thanks Trystan and Sarah for a wonderful FREE forum which brings so much pleasure. I can't even comprehend the work involved in such a major overhaul!
Like the new layout - am off to go exploring!
Merry Christmas and happy New Year to you.
Wiggy :)
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You've already brought up this topic, Lizzie-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,628304.msg4763150.html#msg4763150
Not the same. My original query related to the list of topics on "Unread Topics" and Berlin-Bob took one of my responses to one of his topics and made a new topic which is the one you gave the link to.
When I made the remark about responses to a topic alternating between pink and grey (or blue) I mean on each individual topic. So if you look at this topic, you will see that the background my response is a different colour to the one immediately before it and that one is a different colour to my response and the one before it, i.e. one is pink, one blue, one pink and so on.
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We had alternating colours between replies inthe old forum too.
The difference is very small and sometimes I can't see it all unless I change the angle of my laptop "lid".
Bob
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Re: tracing previous posts by me. I have done as Sarah suggested earlier (ie)
To find your posts, Click on the "Profile button" at the top of the site, and under your profile picture you will see your posts.
It doesn't work for me as all I am seeing is my profile and an invitation to modify it
When I mentioned this again on reply 152 of this thread Carole, Tristan replied on 155 to say that they were going to work on the problem. :)
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I don't think I noticed before (or else I've forgotten already!), but on this new Roots, the difference is very clear at the angle I have my laptop screen.
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We had alternating colours between replies inthe old forum too.
The difference is very small and sometimes I can't see it all unless I change the angle of my laptop "lid".
Bob
Sorry Bob,it is very obvious now and has given me a headache,the background is now a bluey grey,horrid
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We had alternating colours between replies inthe old forum too.
The difference is very small and sometimes I can't see it all unless I change the angle of my laptop "lid".
Bob
Sorry Bob,it is very obvious now and has given me a headache,the background is now a bluey grey,horrid
Here's a vote for the new colours - they are far more relaxing/soothing than the old ones. This is especially so on the photo board when some of us waited for some one else to post so that we could get the background that we wanted.
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I like the alternating colours too. Trystan will be pleased that we're beginning to get used to the changes and it's not 24 hours yet. ;) ;) Still don't like the colours on the different Forum boards, they make my eyes sore.
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I also like the new search, without having to think of lots of words that might have been in the title of a topic I wrote in or started many months back, I just typed in the words I could remember and pressed search - I didn't fill in user, dates or anything else and up popped loads of possible topics. I've tried it 3 times now, each time with different words and it works every time.
Lizzie
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I'm replying so I can see what I look like 8) now we've all had a makeover! Looking good so far. Off to have more of a look around
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The one thing I am finding difficult is the grey background,the type doesn't appear jet black and my eyes don't like it.This may be a problem for older eyes
I agree. It may be because the members name and stars etc on the left are so dominant compared to the content of the message. I have only been on here for a few minutes, looking around, and my eyes are not happy. I will persevere.
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Can you let me know where to find threads posted since one's last log in please. Sandra ???
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Hi all doing all the hard work in the background, are there real problems with forum via mobile? As I am currently typing I still have mid right/ upper "Contact Support" and my normal ways of viewing my posts via profile are not available.
I know only a blip, and thanks for all your endeavours!
Keyboard86
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Can you let me know where to find threads posted since one's last log in please. Sandra ???
Top of the page, on the left, above the roots tree logo. Unread for unread posts; replies for replies to posts.
Not initially noticeable.
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I like everything BUT the thumbprints on the Photo Restoration board. It is now impossible to see any photos unless one clicks on the thumbprint and waits for it to download, then we have to do the same thing again on every response. Very time consuming and not nearly as fast and user friendly as the old way.
I visit many restoration sites and this is the only one that has this method . Some have thumbprints but will enlarge as soon as you hover the mouse over it . Much faster.
Irene
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Sorry Trystan after all your hard work, am I the only one brave enough to say I don't like the new website? :'( Please return the print to black on the topic boards, the colour (whatever it is called) is very hard to read. Usually I scan through the list of Unread Topics to see if there are any I'm interested in, but I gave up today as the different font colours and sizes on a bluish-grey background made it difficult to read through quickly. Also I don't know if it is my laptop, but there is a grey stripe either side of the web page. I can get rid of it by increasing the font size to a ridiculously large size but that's obviously not the answer.
Lizzie
I'm more or less in agreement Lizzie. Tall spidery capitals aren't the best fonts to use where my old eyes are concerned - colours also affect whether or not I can see the writing clearly.
I can tell a heck of a lot of hard work has gone into the new look - but amidst the shock when I first surfed in was the immediate thought that the site had been hijacked lol :o
The black bottom part of the page would look well in a funeral parlour -and the writing's too small for me to see without squinting.
One thing about having a popular site = You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time :D
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Can you let me know where to find threads posted since one's last log in please. Sandra ???
Top of the page, on the left, above the roots tree logo. Unread for unread posts; replies for replies to posts.
Not initially noticeable.
Oh Ok...easy when you know how.
Many thanks. Sandra
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Well done, refreshing changes. The thing that I noticed most was the increase in speed when posting, changing threads etc.,
Just popped onto Cumberland Look Up Requests and got quite a surprise when the old format jumped back at me ;D
Merry Christmas Everyone.
Sandra
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Oh and Wiltshire Look Up requests is also the old format - perhaps those haven't changed yet ?
Sandra
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I've been using RootsChat and recommending it to friends almost since its inception. I don't suppose that I'm going to change my ways, it's just that I'm a bit long in the tooth and and 'change' is a bit hard to get my head round these days.
I found a bit in the top left corner that is supposed to show replies to my posts (I think) but what about posts that I am interested in and have sent a reply too? The brown envelopes were a much clearer indication.
best wishes to the team for Christmas and the New Year
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I mentioned that, Dave, and Trystan said he'll fix it.
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Yay. I found the size of the font too big today and this resulted in my having to use left and right arrows to read everything. Thank you for posting the Control & + , I tried the Control and minus and I can now read the threads complete without fiddling.
Technology know-how is a wonderful thing. 8) Sandra
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If the new look is not completely set in stone yet is it possible to tweak the colours of the fonts.
I'm thinking in particular of the subject (in brownish-red) on the unread posts page. Presently it doesn't seem clear, and in light of the fact that choosing that subject takes one to the thread where the subject is now deep blue and the name of the poster is the brown colour, can it not be altered?
Speaking personally, the thread subject in blue, would be much more agreeable.
There seems to be a fondness for using brown. Any particular reason?
Post; preview; spell check; quote etc don't seem as inviting somehow.
Why not green as in Search and Logout?
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Has anyone mentioned the improvement to PMs? Great being able to remove all messages older than a chosen number of days and to be able to search them by names or words. That will save a lot of time.
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Yes Jan, that is a positive. ;)
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I am sure when you pressed the button to make all changes you said wait for it!
we all take time especially us oldies to get use to changes .....I always cringe when my comfortable websites change but eventually get used to it........reading this thread at least answered most of my queries.......I love this site and so WILL get used to it
thanks for your hard work and Merry Christmas to everyone
sandie
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Still trying to read the small print,and will have to have another go at changing my computer set up tomorrow. I tried it earlier but it changed my emails too ::)
Carol
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Thanks for the new look, it is looking good :) and like s.o. else, I love the new way of searching, such an improvement. And I have just had a look at the mobile version - fantastic, so easy to read and navigate.
One little bug, when you have time please. I cannot find my old posts when I click on my avatar or the icon that says profile. I have clicked on two or three other members' and seen their old posts so I assume this is a tiny glitch.
I'm off to Mum's for Christmas in the morning, her broadband is at the library so there is no hurry finding my posts.
Happy christmas to you all
falcybe
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Not sure about the red/brown font for the thread names
Actually I think it's the skinny font, the colour isn't really an issue, it's just if I scroll down quickly reading it goes blurry on me .... and I've got pretty good eyesight. ;)
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Hi Falcybe
See reply 155 - Trystan is aware of this problem
Quote from: Hampshire Lass on Today at 19:09
Has anyone worked out how to read our own previous postings yet?
Thanks for that - we are aware of that, and we will fix that
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Thanks CaroleW,
I thought I'd seen something but I'm bouncing around like Tigger, exploring the new site so I hadn't seen reply 155 and I thought I'd better say something in case it was necessary.
Cheers, falcybe
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Ooh all new and shiny! :D Congrats on the updated version, it's a bit of a shock at first but I'm sure we'll all grow to love it once we've found our way around :)
What a lot of work it must have been, really appreciate all the effort and time put in. Thank you :-*
Heather
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Having had the chance to view the changes on a different computer now, I have the following observations:
On this computer (my home laptop) the fontsize for posts about right, whereas looking earlier (on a computer at work) I had to stand back about six feet or zoom out the browser window (then have to zoom back in for other sites). This explains why some people were saying it was too small before (I thought they were being sarky originally!). The grey sides are still a bit of a waste (can't see why we need them, as we didn't before).
The comments from others regarding the font/colour of thread titles on the index pages in now more obvious as a problem - really unclear. Maybe a "non-narrow" font would be better.
And obviously the things we can't mention (without getting the post deleted) are still a pain. But that is down to position, as they are required to pay the bills.
In general, the look is good. The changes to navigation will just take a little time to master. And it is certainly quicker.
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Hi Falcybe
See reply 155 - Trystan is aware of this problem
Quote from: Hampshire Lass on Today at 19:09
Has anyone worked out how to read our own previous postings yet?
Thanks for that - we are aware of that, and we will fix that
:)Getting used to it folks, but this blessed "Contact Support" hanging over my post, is driving me nuts!
NB Not on PC but mobile, have a great deal of time for the work carried out behind the scenes, and know that anytime soon I will be one happy bunny!
Keyboard86
PS just replied to a post!
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The mixed colours in the various fonts/headings also feel hard on the eye.
It seems to work fine, and is easy to navigate.
Copperbeech5
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Well call me an old stuck in the mud but I am not finding it easy to navigate at all how do I find my last posts? I am sure Trystan and co have worked very hard on the new look and I am sure even I will get use to it eventually but right now I am confused and feeling lost among the adverts and having to search hard for buttons that used to be clearly placed at the top of the page. I do like the new logo but I thought it was Roots Chat with two words?
Ah well I will have to keep trying to adjust as underneath all the change I am sure my dear friendly helpful RootsChat will appear still smiling a big welcome
Trees a bit confused by it all
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Hi all,
The new format looks great. I'm having serious withdrawals for my regular twice daily (or more) chats though.
I do hope that the chat gets fixed soon. It's my one link to many others around the world and I'm going stir crazy.
Jackie
Queensland, Australia
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Glory be, no midnight lockout! Well done and thanks to everyone who has worked so hard on this upgrade. One thing I have noticed is that people are complaining because they can't find things which I never knew existed, such as indications of their previous posts. What a surprise, I never knew you could do that! ;D
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Minor criticism (in agreement with some others) - narrowness of typeface, particularly in topic titles (wrinkly that I am); huge praise, though for the speed of things, especially loading new pages in 'all unread topics' which used to take ages.
Pinot
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Hi Keyboard
but this blessed "Contact Support" hanging over my post, is driving me nuts
Couldn't agree more - it's doing my head in as well.
Hi Trees
see reply 212 re: previous posts - Trystan is aware of this problem
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Hi Keyboard
but this blessed "Contact Support" hanging over my post, is driving me nuts
Couldn't agree more - it's doing my head in as well.
Has anyone dare click on it yet to see what happens? ;D ;D ;D
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Reply #51 from Sarah
The contact support button is large because if anyone is having problems it will be over the next day or two whilst we fix the little problems like the smilies.
Karen
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What is the "Send this Topic" for? I clicked on it and it showed my name as on here, my e-mail address, space for a comment, space for recipient's name and their e-mail address. Does it mean we can just link a topic and e-mail it to a non Rootschatter? Did we have this before?
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What is the "Send this Topic" for? I clicked on it and it showed my name as on here, my e-mail address, space for a comment, space for recipient's name and their e-mail address. Does it mean we can just link a topic and e-mail it to a non Rootschatter? Did we have this before?
No, at least not so sleek. I love it, now instead of copying a link, getting my email up, paisting it.... yada yada yada, I can just click on "send this topic" and send it to someone if I think it's an interesting topic or whatever ;D
Karen
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Hi - Well done to all the techy folk on the upgrade. Looks like it was a big job and it seems to work pretty much the same as the old one so I am sure people will quickly get used to it.
I have been checking it all out and am used to it already.
There has been some mention of the grey borders being a waste of space...well - if like some of us you can't read the small font (especially the squashy font some people have mentioned which I have to agree is causing a few problems) - you can do Ctrl + and increase the size of the main page to almost fill the screen- using space where the grey borders are.
Just one thing I spotted not working - which was when I tried the shrink a link link... but I imagine you guys know about that and it is on your to do list.
And - has anyone spotted the lovely search box at the top of the page next to the login bit...very handy!
Embrace the change ;D ;D ;D ;D
Milly
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Well this is mind boggling indeed. But good work. Hope chat comes up soon. I will just have to wait like everyone else.
cheers Floozy :D
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I think the new site is great .... no objections from me at all and I am a real dinosaur.
Joe 8) 8)
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Mods have probably picked it up, but a couple of links still go to old style pages. London Lookup requests and Kent Lookup requests.
Ian C
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Is there anywhere we can post truly trivial stuff that could be sorted at your leisure Tristan?
I mention only because I have noticed some truly minor issues that probably do not merit an actual complain. The "[/sub]" at the end of my signature is one.
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What is the "Send this Topic" for? I clicked on it and it showed my name as on here, my e-mail address, space for a comment, space for recipient's name and their e-mail address. Does it mean we can just link a topic and e-mail it to a non Rootschatter? Did we have this before?
Yes we did have it before :)
http://www.rootschat.com/help/navi_topic.php#send_2_friend
(still using the images from the old forum)
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Is there anywhere we can post truly trivial stuff that could be sorted at your leisure Tristan?
I mention only because I have noticed some truly minor issues that probably do not merit an actual complain. The "[/sub]" at the end of my signature is one.
What "[/sub]" at the end of your signature ??
Only joking: I've just edited your signature for you :)
Bob
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but this blessed "Contact Support" hanging over my post, is driving me nuts
Couldn't agree more - it's doing my head in as well.
Reply #51 from Sarah
The contact support button is large because if anyone is having problems it will be over the next day or two whilst we fix the little problems like the smilies.
Has anyone dare click on it yet to see what happens? ;D ;D ;D
It is just a means of sending an e-mail to RootsChat when you can't contact us any other way. This is a standard "Contact Us" feature, mainly for people who have problems logging in and need to contact us for help, or for others who need to contact RootsChat but don't want to register.
(If you need help and can login, then you can contact a moderator by PM)
It will be moved to the bottom of the page when everything is more stable and has settled down.
regards
Bob
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First and foremost, thank you all for originating, managing and supporting this most excellent resource.
Regarding the changes:
I personally preferred the compact index, but I will probably get used to the more garish updated version and it probably looks better to newcomers.
When I look up my profile, I can only get the account/settings page, where can I now find the "recent posts" list?
Just curiosity - why have a 2 fingered "short cut" for submit or preview when there is a one-click button alongside?
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I really miss the "read unread posts since last visit" and "new responses to your topics" links - or am I just not finding them in the new layout?
They are still there, but they are just called "Unread" and "Replies" in the new forum.
Top left of the page, next to "Hi Pejic" welcome message.
Just curiosity - why have a 2 fingered "short cut for submit or preview when there is a one-click button alongside?
Speculation on my part, but probably there for people who are happier working with a keyboard than a mouse. I know I find it interrupts the "flow" sometimes to keep shifting from one to the other.
regards,
Bob
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Do I like it or not?
I do and I don't. The grey bars down the side I don't like and the font is squashed on the boards. Can't find previous posts but that might just need a bit of a play. I don't like the ads in the middle of threads at all, gets in the way of reading and breaks the concentration but them I'm easily distracted :)
I do very much like the facility to manage PMs - so much quicker and easier to do than before :D.
Like all things that change - you get used to it. Tho I will have to play with the font a bit to get it to best size. Having gone through a major upgrade at work when we changed our Outlook recently was a week of horror - couple of weeks in you don't notice it any more. However this will I know have taken a lot of time and effort to develop and bearing in mind you have day jobs as well you must be knackered!
So there are a few things not quite right - we'll live. No IT changes are ever 100% on release in my experience.
The town of Bury must surely have a hob-nob shortage by now :D Thanks Trystan and Sarah as always for all your hard word to bring this facility to a worldwide community.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year ;)
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Font suitably played with and I like cos I can actually see it without me specs! Marvellous!
:D :D :D
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To all disappointed members - Persevere. Remember how confusing it was when you first came to the old site.
I particularly like the scrolling of unread posts and the "go back" arrow on the new forum.
Exploring the features with an open mind, rather than trying to find old features is quite enlightening, and Berlin Bob gets back quickly if you really get lost.
Persevere!
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I imagine like all things new,I will get used to this version and forget what the old one looked like.I started off by going back to my previous screen as I thought I was in the wrong place.
At the moment I find I can't read the posts easily as I am distracted,one by the given number of posts on a subject which are right in the middle of the screen.
Plus it is too colourful but then I still like reading real books.
Liz
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I'm not disappointed in the new look at all. Like anything, there is change in our lives...this is just another one that we will need to get used to.
BUT......
I think I've past the stage of "going" crazy. Any idea roughly when the chat feature could be up and running again?
Jackie
Queensland, Australia
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its nice to have some colour in the site... but for those of us who have widescreen laptops half the screen is taken up by grey bars down the sides...
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Looks Great - but "Help" !! I cant find the button or starting a "New Post". hmmm think my brain hasn't wakened up yet, it must be obvious - somewhere?
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:) :) :)
I know it will take time to get used to new look Rootschat but I like it!
To echo what others have already said many thanks to those who started these pages and the many who have helped me with research. I find I often go back to posts to check details.
Knellie
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All I can say is
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
WWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
Well done, looks fantastic.
Duane
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Please get rid of the narrower font in the red brown colour it is awful and looks amateur
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Believe it or not, I still can't figure out how to start a "new Subject".... Might just have to keep posting on this one page lol!
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Believe it or not, I still can't figure out how to start a "new Subject".... Might just have to keep posting on this one page lol!
Top right of Board New Topic on blue background
brevitas :)
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I like it a bit more this morning. :-\
Judy
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Wow, what a massive effort to undertake right before Christmas! Congratulations, well done and thank you for providing such an invaluable service that has been an amazing help and inspiration to me over the years. I'm looking forward to exploring it all.
Merry Christmas,
Jo :)
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oh thank you Brevitas - I knew the "New Post" just had to be there - just a bit of confusion on my part! Got it now! All in all, I think the new site is great, overall the new site looks great
Maggs
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Looks great, keep up the good work!!
Steve. ;) ;) ;)
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I'm another one with a wide screen, which means I now have the grey stripes either side of my screen. On the plus side though, I can see more of the page when I go to split-screen mode; this makes it easier to read RC threads and do 'proper work' at the same time! :D
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I like it, its quicker, and easier to get around, but, surname interests take up too much space, it was usefull to be able to see several replies at once, made the thread more continuous
mike
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FYI tweak needed - leicestershire look-up requests and completed requests come up in the old format
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It's growing on me!
Skoosh. ;)
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I hope someone can offer some advice. I have read about 17 pages of this thread so am unsure if my question has already been covered (apologies if it has). I intend to catch up on the remainder of the posts shortly.
I have previously used Rootschat on my iphone. It is not my preferred method but comes in handy if my desktop PC is 'occupied'. I have Safari and all I used to do was 'google' "Rootschat" and select the link to go to the site. Easy.
I have just tried to do the same thing. When the google results appear and I click on the rootschat link, I get the message "Cannot Open Page - Safari cannot open the page because too many redirects occurred".
What does this mean and is there a way around it? What can I do so I can either google rootschat and select it the way I used to do, or get rootschat on my iphone via any other means.
Is anyone else having the same problem? I haven't changed any settings or anything since I last visit Rootschat via my phone.
Ok, fixed it. 8)
It was a problem my end - I had to tick the box to allow cookies from "visited sites". Cool.
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Overall I like the changes that have been made, obviously it will take some getting used to, but technology moves on.
One thing that I noticed however, when looking at a thread the 'previous' and 'next' links seem to have been removed.
I used to be able to open the first thread on say the restoration board, have a look at all the restores for that thread and then go to the next thread using the 'next' button. Now you have to click back to the list for the board and then select the next thread??
Will the 'previous' and 'next' links be making a come back?
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All in all the new look is fantastic, but I can't see a "New posts since your last visit" tab.It may be just the way I use the site, but I don't like to miss anything, even if its just a cursory glance. Now there seem to be no posts between10.40 this morning & 3.00 am - and before that yesterday. Where has everything gone?
Steve
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I can't see a "New posts since your last visit" tab.
Top left - Unread and Replies
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... I have read about 17 pages of this thread ...
A quick tip for all newcomers to this topic, and for "oldcomers" who want to re-read it ...
Click on the "print" button at the top or bottom right of the topic. This won't actually print it but will display the whole topic on one page (in a printable format). You won't see any images, but there aren't that many on this topic so that shouldn't be a problem.
http://www.rootschat.com/help/faqs.php#long_topics
regards,
Bob
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Click on the "print" button at the top or bottom right of the topic. This won't actually print it but will display the whole topic on one page (in a printable format). You won't see any images, but there aren't that many on this topic so that shouldn't be a problem.
http://www.rootschat.com/help/faqs.php#long_topics
regards,
Bob
That is very useful. Thanks Bob! :) And it also solves the problem of my niggle with the new layout. ;)
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oh dear, I seem to have messed up the quote ... oops
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it needs a ]
is: ... 4763879 Click ..
should be : 4763879] Click
:)
Bob
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oh dear, I seem to have messed up the quote ... oops
It's okay, I've fixed it for you now :)
Oops- crossed with Bob's reply
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Well, I arrived on the site yesterday morning to see the 'Countdown clock', so I went off to do something else. Yesterday it looked like I would need to attend hospital as an out-patient over Christmas, so I got special permission from my wife to open her present to me early - it was a nice shiny new Samsung Tab 2 (7" screen) - I've since heard that my hospital visits won't be happening now. After setting the Samsung up, I tried visiting Roots Chat, and I was immediately presented with the Mobi version, which seemed more than adequate for use on the move. However, for those with screens of 7" or more, you would probably prefer to use the full version.
I think Trystan and Sarah have done a wonderful job in getting the new forum up and running in such a short space of time. All modern internet forums use databases, and databases can't be backed up when the forum is running, because they are forever changing as people post new messages. I used to run a small forum myself (nothing near RC scale!) so I know the work involved. After transferring all the data from one forum to the other you need to thoroughly test and do 'tweaks', all within the time contstraints that you have set yourself. There is nothing more demoralising after spending hours working on software that nobody pays to use than to have people moaning about nit-picking stuff like the size of fonts and background colours, especially when a lot of what they are moaning about could be remedied if they knew how to set up their own computers (sorry people, but it had to be said) :) I'm sure that Trystan and Sarah will do some more 'fine tuning' as time allows.
The 'fixed-width' format is welcomed by me. As the owner of a wide-screen monitor, I'm always aware that my monitor will cause Windows to format the screen differently to those using square screens, and this difference in formatting can make differences to how my posts appear. Being a bit of a perfectionist, I don't like to see smilies dropping off the end of lines. A fixed width format ensures that all readers see the posts formatted the same.
So - Trystan, Sarah and the RC team - a big THANK YOU for the new forum. It's much more responsive than the old one, and I do like the new graphics. I appreciate all the work which I know you put in.
P.S. Can we have a 'thumbs up' smilie ? ;D ;D ;D
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Thank you Bob and Aghadowey. :)
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How I wish there was a recommend button for posts! Nick29 has put it brilliantly.
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Now I'm a bit bewildered - just read a 'New' thread which was posted at 01.38 today (for a William Henry Tree) - when I clicked on it to read it, it came up in the 'old' format???
Why could this have happened?
Annette
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Still a few glitches to iron out :)
The problem is known (county boards) and is being worked on.
Bob
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Now I'm a bit bewildered - just read a 'New' thread which was posted at 01.38 today (for a William Henry Tree) - when I clicked on it to read it, it came up in the 'old' format???
Why could this have happened?
Annette
Gremlins in the works I expect. There are bound to be teething problems, but the more I use it, the more I like it. There are some very good features that make it much easier to use.
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I don't know whether it's been mentioned yet, ... but when people post photos, now, they're teeny-tiny. We who are declining into decrepitude can't see 'em :-\
Any clues, Bob?
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Just click on them Deb, they come up large.
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh! Ta muchly! :)
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Please get rid of the narrower font in the red brown colour it is awful and looks amateur
I have to agree with Stonechat on this. Brown doesn't seem too bad for the individual names but not for the titles of threads on the 'unread' page. The larger one increases the screen the better the font looks but as I prefer to read at a size suitable for my eyes the brown just looks blurry and the font (whichever it is) aggravating.
Why so many different fonts - and colours - used anyway? Too much of a good thing etc.....
With age, or for those with less that perfect eyesight, focussing takes longer between differences; whether large to small, narrow/broad or near/far, and although I realise that not all RCers are old codgers perhaps having a little empathy for those with difficulties is not too much to ask.
I realise this may seem like a complaining rant, but honestly, I do appreciate this site and all the work that is put into it. :)
Just a thought, is the drab brown because we are in winter in UK, and not much greenery around. Lush and green elsewhere in the world ;) Will UK spring make a difference?
Should maybe mention that I checked in on my phone today and found lovely clear blue and white. Don't ask me to start posting from there though. I prefer to be sitting comfortably at a keyboard, with perhaps a good cup of coffee and a choc biccy or two :D
I will also add that using the smaller screen at work (coffee break dontcha know), means that the grey bands down the side are not as wide.
Having now read the new posts placed since I started this I realise that I will be perceived to be in the 'moaning, nit-picking' bracket suggested by Nick but, if comments are invited surely that means ALL, and not just complimenary ones (hopefully without being banished :'( )
I know technology is always advancing (where would we be without it?), and changes are made with a lot of thought going into them, but whatever is designed, the result should be of greatest advantage and comfort to the end-user .
Keep up the good work, but please - no brown text :-*
May I please ask just one more question?
You are not thinking of putting the site up for sale are you? :o :o
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Just noticed my surname interests at the bottom of my posts; they're all listed one under another, and I can't remember whether I set them up that way or not. They'd use less space, if they were just separated by commas ... can Bob or a Mod fix that (for those of us having Seniors' Moments)?
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Funnily enough ..... I was just wondering whether I should ask you to modify them ;D
You can do it yourself by going into your profile :)
http://www.rootschat.com/help/profile02.php
(Research names or areas: )
or if you wish, I'll do it for you :)
regards,
Bob
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Thanks, Bob - obviously my brain just needed a jolt to make it remember how to do things! ;D
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You're welcome :)
Bob
ps.: I'm also 39.95 but I may be in a higher tax bracket than you ;D
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I know there are a lot of complaints about the font, colours etc, but I quite like the brown. I can see that the thin font may be difficult to read for some, but if it were in the same style font as this (for example), and possibly changed to bold, then that should make it easier to read. I am not sure if this is a simple fix or a big one. :)
I do find that the point size of the text appears very small in the quote boxes. I am also not a huge fan of the heavy black bars on the sides of the quote boxes, but that is not much of an issue (no one else has mentioned it ;)).
One of the best new features is the TOP button at the bottom of the page, but I keep forgetting to use it. It's a little bit lost down there in the dark. ;D
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Please get rid of the narrower font in the red brown colour it is awful and looks amateur
I have to agree with Stonechat on this. Brown doesn't seem too bad for the individual names but not for the titles of threads on the 'unread' page. The larger one increases the screen the better the font looks but as I prefer to read at a size suitable for my eyes the brown just looks blurry and the font (whichever it is) aggravating........
All the different internet browsers have a setting where you can set preferred fonts and font sizes for the web pages that you view. Just because the designer of a web page may consider that it's best viewed in Times New Roman and small size, you can still over-ride these choices in the settings of your web browser. Just click on the Settings tab of the web browser that you are using - this applies to IE, Firefox and Chrome.
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All the different internet browsers have a setting where you can set preferred fonts and font sizes for the web pages that you view.
Many people on here are not that computer literate Nick. Are you suggesting that we change the settings for every web page on Roots that we don't like? Where do I find Settings on Firefox anyway, I can't see it - but then I'm not computer literate. :D
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Can I just say that as an oldie with dodgy eyesight, I am having no problem with either colours or fonts. It's all perfectly clear to me.
Jen
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Hi Nick,
Good idea. If you would like to help out on this, perhaps you could start a new topic in the Technical Help board. Then others can also join in and we won't go off topic here.
We can then point people to the technical topic.
Thanks,
Bob
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B-Bob, can we have a capital C in the title of the site please ?? I'm still reading it as Root Schat !! Its there, for e.g. in the title of this thread !
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All the different internet browsers have a setting where you can set preferred fonts and font sizes for the web pages that you view.
Many people on here are not that computer literate Nick. Are you suggesting that we change the settings for every web page on Roots that we don't like? Where do I find Settings on Firefox anyway, I can't see it - but then I'm not computer literate. :D
The settings you choose will over-ride the fonts on the page, but it won't change text when it's in the form of an image file (so it's really a picture).
On Firefox, you go to Tools >> Options, then choose the Content tab. This is the setting for Firefox 9 - I don't use Firefox much, so I haven't bothered to upgrade to the latest version.
In most situations like this, Google is your friend ;)
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Re: tracing previous posts by me. I have done as Sarah suggested earlier (ie)
To find your posts, Click on the "Profile button" at the top of the site, and under your profile picture you will see your posts.
It doesn't work for me as all I am seeing is my profile and an invitation to modify it
When I mentioned this again on reply 152 of this thread Carole, Tristan replied on 155 to say that they were going to work on the problem. :)
OK, so that answers my question. Hope it gets sorted soon as this is one of the best sites out there, I have recommended it to some friends who are going to start, or restart, researching their family tree.
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Hi Nick,
Good idea. If you would like to help out on this, perhaps you could start a new topic in the Technical Help board. Then others can also join in and we won't go off topic here.
We can then point people to the technical topic.
Thanks,
Bob
Sorry, Bob, I read your post after LizzieW's. I'll put a post in the Tech section ASAP.
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i know trystan and sarah set up the site for which i am very gratefull for there work,
but most of all i would like to thank the restores and the members like jim pels and so many names to many to name,
for there hard work and time you all put into this site for beginners like my self,
which you all have made this site as to day you all get my praise and thank you all and bless you
and merry xmas kind regards dave
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Stupid question .... but it's something I've never been able to work out ....
When someone says (as they did earlier on this thread), "see post #50" (for example), how do I know which is post 50? I can't see any numbers beside any of the replies.
[This is obviously not to do with the changes, just a general question]
:-[
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Look at the top of each post....
You'll see the post title, then underneath it will say "Reply #123, posted today 9:45AM" (or something similar) :)
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Stupid question .... but it's something I've never been able to work out ....
When someone says (as they did earlier on this thread), "see post #50" (for example), how do I know which is post 50? I can't see any numbers beside any of the replies.
[This is obviously not to do with the changes, just a general question]
:-[
At the top of a post it says "Reply #289" which in this case is the post where you asked this question.
(I think I'm right in saying, though, that this number may change if a post before it is deleted - for instance if someone mentioned the unmentionables - you know what I mean Ruskie ;))
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How embarrassing - I can't believe I've never noticed that in all these years. :-[
Thanks Nick and Dale.
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I've now fixed a small bug - you can now (again) see your own posts under "Profile". Phew.
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I've now fixed a small bug - you can now (again) see your own posts under "Profile". Phew.
Yay!! Thanks very much for fixing that
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All the different internet browsers have a setting where you can set preferred fonts and font sizes for the web pages that you view. Just because the designer of a web page may consider that it's best viewed in Times New Roman and small size, you can still over-ride these choices in the settings of your web browser. Just click on the Settings tab of the web browser that you are using - this applies to IE, Firefox and Chrome.
Isn't the point that we shouldn't be changing our browser settings (ie for all sites) just so we have a clearer RootsChat, if other sites aren't also a problem?
Earlier I asked my OH (not a RootsChatter and thus not familiar with old or new styles) to look at the "Unread" posts pages and say what caught the eye - the answer was the names of the "started by" poster as these were in bold blue and stronger than anything else. With due respect to all RootsChatters my feeling is that a poster's username is less important than the thread title (bold but palid brown) or the board name (blue italics).
My understanding of presentation styles has always been "less is more". On the "Unread" page there are three colours for text (black, brown and blue); three styles (bold, italic and standard) as well as several sizes and multiple icons and that is ignoring headings and borders and their contents. Overall the page has lost clarity and personally, I suspect I'm no longer taking in the important information of the topic itself.
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It's big clunky, ugly and looks amateurish.
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I'm new to rootschat but I like the new look a lot. It is way easier to find things now, and the fixed width is great since it works on both my big external monitor and my small laptop.
jaxe
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Unfortunately the new layout looks a bit 'The only was is Essex'. A triumph of style over substance. The previous offering which was/s greatly appreciated was very clear in line.
Why fix something that wasn't broken....
Have been posting less frequently for some time now, so shall take this opportunity to thank those that have helped me when searching. This will be my last post.
Have a very Merry Christmas and may you all have a Happy and Healthy New Year.
Regards, Steve
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I don't like this New look, it looks Horrible & Amateurish. :'( :'( :'(
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Unfortunately the new layout looks a bit 'The only was is Essex'. A triumph of style over substance. The previous offering which was/s greatly appreciated was very clear in line.
Why fix something that wasn't broken....
Have been posting less frequently for some time now, so shall take this opportunity to thank those that have helped me when searching. This will be my last post.
Have a very Merry Christmas and may you all have a Happy and Healthy New Year.
Regards, Steve
But it WAS broken! Very slow, and sometimes limitations on number of users.
Do you really think Trystan, Sarah and co worked through the night just for Artistic Merit?
There are some strange people out there! ;D
They used to be called Luddites! :D :D
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I'm confused why people are saying it looks amateurish???? It looks the opposite to me, and it takes a lot of work to get a website this good.
jaxe
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Thanks DavisRigg3
I thought it read "Unread replies" which rather puzzled me!
Steve
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I've now fixed a small bug - you can now (again) see your own posts under "Profile". Phew.
That's great Trystan very many thanks :)
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I've now fixed a small bug - you can now (again) see your own posts under "Profile". Phew.
Thanks so much Trystan.....everythings great now :)
Merry Christmas and don't eat too many hobnobs :D
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I've now fixed a small bug - you can now (again) see your own posts under "Profile". Phew.
Could I add my thanks for this, as well.
You deserve a whole year's supply of biscuits for all the work you've put in :)
brevitas
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It's big clunky, ugly and looks amateurish.
Of course you're entitled to your opinion.
But your wording could perhaps have been rather more polite ;) Trystan has been working hard on this for ages and comments such as the one you've made must be very disheartening.
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Trystan, why not start a "RC wishlist" thread, so people can post suggestions ?
There is only one thing on RC that really irritates me, and this is not entirely new. On other forums that I frequent (not genealogical ones, I might add), the forum somehow remembers where I'd got to in the individual threads. For example, on logging in to RC today, the forum would remember that I'd read up to post #56 on "Your New Roots Chat is here" and clicking on it would take me to the last read message in that thread. I know this topic is one of the fastest-growing threads on the forum, but it's a bit of a pain going back from page 31 to page 15, without several laborious mouse clicks. A drop-down box for getting to a page number would be useful too.
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Unfortunately the new layout looks a bit 'The only was is Essex'. A triumph of style over substance. The previous offering which was/s greatly appreciated was very clear in line.
Why fix something that wasn't broken....
Have been posting less frequently for some time now, so shall take this opportunity to thank those that have helped me when searching. This will be my last post.
Have a very Merry Christmas and may you all have a Happy and Healthy New Year.
Regards, Steve
Is this not equivalent to 'I don't like the sign on that shop, so I'm not going to go into it'? Or 'I don't like the cover of that book, so I'm not going to read it'?
Good grief.
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Nick,
I think this topic is more or less a wish list. Perhaps in a week or so, when people have got used to the new forum ??
I think what you are "missing" is in the "new" button, but I need to find a topic where were I can test it now :)
Bob
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But it WAS broken! Very slow, and sometimes limitations on number of users.
Do you really think Trystan, Sarah and co worked through the night just for Artistic Merit?
There are some strange people out there! ;D
They used to be called Luddites! :D :D
I think you're mixing up the problems with the back end, that people don't really see, so don't know is "broken", with a front end that most people thought was pretty much fine.
The back-end could have been replaced whilst still leaving the front end as-was (or at least very similar). Trystan and Sarah took the decision to revamp the front-end at the same time and that is fair enough. In the main the new design is fine, but having done similar things in the past, I know that no matter how much you look at things, the only time you really know what parts will be unpopular is when it goes live. Yes, these things that are being mentioned are small things, and in the main, people won't stop visiting completely because of them. But sometimes it's those small things that reduce the enjoyment to a degree and maybe cause some people to visit less, which would be a shame, as it's the community on here that make it such a wonderful site.
Obviously, you can't please all of the people all of the time. But a handful of (small) things are being mentioned by a number of posters. These probably wouldn't take too long to tweak and then most of the people would be happy most of the time. :)
PS - Am I just being lucky or have the "things we can't mention" gone away? I just have blank space where they were/should be. (Confused smiley)
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It's big clunky, ugly and looks amateurish.
Of course you're entitled to your opinion.
But your wording could perhaps have been rather more polite ;) Trystan has been working hard on this for ages and comments such as the one you've made must be very disheartening.
I wonder sometimes if people would say the things they type in a face to face conversation ::)
Karen
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On other forums that I frequent (not genealogical ones, I might add), the forum somehow remembers where I'd got to in the individual threads.
Now "tried and tested" ...
If I am looking at something in the "New replies" list and I click on the title, I get taken to the first or last reply, depending how I set that in my profile
http://www.rootschat.com/help/profile03.php
- Show most recent posts at the top.
If I click on the "new" button, then I am taken to the first new reply since I last looked at this topic.
Now if anybody asks, I can tell them what to do, but I've only just learnt that myself today, thanks to Nick's comment :)
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..... say what caught the eye - the answer was the names of the "started by" poster as these were in bold blue and stronger than anything else. With due respect to all RootsChatters my feeling is that a poster's username is less important than the thread title (bold but palid brown) or the board name (blue italics).
My understanding of presentation styles has always been "less is more". On the "Unread" page there are three colours for text (black, brown and blue); three styles (bold, italic and standard) as well as several sizes and multiple icons and that is ignoring headings and borders and their contents. Overall the page has lost clarity and personally, I suspect I'm no longer taking in the important information of the topic itself.
Agree with poster MSHRMH on the above points.
Previously it was much easier to scan the topic titles to see what was of greatest interest.
As an amateur web designer I appreciate that many hours have gone into the redesign, I also appreciate what has been said about issues like speed and user limits. If these were the 'broken' bits -- fine go fix them, but what was wrong with the fonts sizes and colours that determined the need to make these changes.
I find there is something odd (strange) regarding the display of posted images. I'll have more thorough look at this aspect of the new design and post my comments later.
Cheer,
Sy
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I agree, JenB!
Some of the replies on this thread have been very rude, IMHO
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The funny old thing about human nature and resistance to change is that in 5, 7, or whatever number of years time that the next big refresh of the website takes place, people will invariably look back and comment fondly on the new look revealed today! :)
To repeat the post I made yesterday. IMHO, we need to give the new RootsChat time, continue to raise valid issues about how it works and not make posts which will look rather silly in a few years time.
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On other forums that I frequent (not genealogical ones, I might add), the forum somehow remembers where I'd got to in the individual threads.
Now "tried and tested" ...
If I am looking at something in the "New replies" list and I click on the title, I get taken to the first or last reply, depending how I set that in my profile
http://www.rootschat.com/help/profile03.php
- Show most recent posts at the top.
If I click on the "new" button, then I am taken to the first new reply since I last looked at this topic.
Now if anybody asks, I can tell them what to do, but I've only just learnt that myself today, thanks to Nick's comment :)
Thanks for that, Bob. I think we all suffer from a very similar syndrome - we know the position of the buttons that we use on a regular basis, rather than the names of the buttons themselves. Rather like entering your PIN at the cash machine - your brain remembers the pattern of the keys, rather than the numbers. I'm sure when we all get more familiar with the layout, our enjoyment will improve :)
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I've just been on a page that is still in the old format, and this reminded me what used to be less than satisfactory:- the little leaves :-\, also the width. With my varifocals, I found myself having to move my head from side to side in order to read a whole line, whereas now I can read it comfortably!! ;) I actually like the grey margin - a nice restful colour that does not intrude once you get used to it.
I am not a fan of the tall bold font, but it causes no great offence, and I am sure I will get used to it. It was a real revelation going back, and has convinced me that this is much better :). Funny but I was convinced that the site had a yellow background in the old days ::)
Helen
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May I please suggest that the print colours on the title of the post and the "started by etc" on the list of unread posts be reversed. Before the changes, the colours drew the eye straight to the post title, now I have to work hard to see the title which is the bit I am interested in.
Generally though, I'm impressed, well done. Happy Christmas to all.
MaxD
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I've now fixed a small bug - you can now (again) see your own posts under "Profile". Phew.
That's brilliant trystan, and even better, the options of messages, topics and attachments can be separated, or have I missed that before?
Max, that is my view also. It's the subject in brown that I find disconcerting.
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Well this old gal has been playing with it and it is growing on me and I notice the things I thought had gone are gradually reappearing and its getting better and better Well done Trystan and thank you for this unexpected Christmas gift
Trees :)
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Brown's the new black!
Skoosh.
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If I click on the "new" button, then I am taken to the first new reply since I last looked at this topic.
Now if anybody asks, I can tell them what to do, but I've only just learnt that myself today, thanks to Nick's comment :)
I have never tried 'new' either, I usually click on the later numbers to reach newest pages.
Another good tip coming out of all this discussion :)
Thanks to Nick and Bob.
See, I'm not always complaining ;)
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Thank you Trystan, Sarah and all involved in the creation of the new look! In general, I feel that everything works very well. There are a couple of things I haen't found yet, but that's probably me not looking carefully enough ;)
One query, is it necessary to have the 'new' after the names of counties on the main navigation page? The bold/light font system is still in place doing the same function, so to also have 'new' is a bit of an overkill.
Apologies if this has already been raised and answered - I haven't read the whole thread :-[
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Apologies if this has already been raised and answered - I haven't read the whole thread :-[
And that's meant to be the embarrassed smilie!!
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Thanks to you all from me too. I realise the appearance of the site is the least significant part, and the technical aspects and the functioning are what is really important. I'm not finding it hard to get around, and I really appreciate the mobile version.
I still don't like the brown, but that's just my personal taste!
Anne
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I love the whole new format - and what a huge difference !! Fantastic !!
Trystan, a great big thankyou to both you and Sarah for putting in all the hard work, every second has paid off.
:) :) :)
My only problem is with how my screen is viewing the font. I've spoken to 'brevitas' and because she wasn't having the same issues as me - we've compared how our computers are set up. We both use Firefox and our settings are identical, we also allow the pages to choose their own fonts. But ... mine looks different and I'm having trouble with my eyes when normally my vision isn't too bad.
I've attached the examples - hoping either you or Bob can advise me how to alter it, please ?
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When I post a reply the whole thing disappears and I have a blank page. I have to then reopen the main page and start again. I must be doing something wrong but I'm not sure what as this didn't happen before.
The other thing that puzzles me is why the title Child Boards next to each country on the main menu?
I can see a huge amount of work has gone into the revamp and no doubt I'll eventually find my way around it but I have to agree about the new font and it's colour I also find it difficult to read.
I'm editing this to say my post posted fine on this board but the problem occurred on the Lancashire Look Up boards which is still the old style so perhaps that's the problem. As I said above I'll get used to eventually.
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I am sorry but I find the appearance of the whole new site ghastly
As I have stated before the thin red/brown font is awful
Also my monitor is elongated in the horizontal direction and I cannot get anywhere near enough on the page
Everything is a little too large and there is far too much blank space on the screen
I will definitely use the site less - it is just less usable
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I don't know whether this has already been brought up as I have not been able to read the whole thread.
The centre of the page is far too bright!!! My eyes feel as if they are being 'drawn' and it has given me a headache! There are at least 2 other people on the YTG who are having exactly the same problem.
I have spent the last 40+ years with eye problems - including having 6 operations - and if nothing can be done to change the bright screen, then I shall have to severely curtail my visits to what is/was a wonderful site.
PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!
snaptoo
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My only problem is with how my screen is viewing the font. I've spoken to 'brevitas' and because she wasn't having the same issues as me - we've compared how our computers are set up. We both use Firefox and our settings are identical, we also allow the pages to choose their own fonts. But ... mine looks different and I'm having trouble with my eyes when normally my vision isn't too bad. how to alter it, please ?
It looks like brevitas has used the "Control +" in the browser which increases the size. The small vertical line on the stitching on that screenshot suggest that anyhow.
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Hi Pels, I don't have the answer of course, but can tell you that on my screen at work the page looked like yours, but on my larger screen at home it's more like that of brevitas.
Zooming in does fill the page more, and narrows the grey bands at the side, but the font is then enlarged far too much.
Perhaps someone will come up with the definitive solution.
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Oh dear, I really appreciate you running Rootschat but I hate the new look - I'll try and get used to it. :'(
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Ok, so I've been playing around with the control (+) thing and now I can't get it back. Help please ;D
Casalguidi :)
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Try control (-)
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Thankyou Trystan, I was using the shift to get (_) and making it bigger still ;D ;D
Casalguidi ;D
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I wasn't expecting such a change in style and was surprised. But okay - things change - the human being gets used to changes - sometimes it takes a little more time.
I too thank Trystan and Sarah and all the mods for their relentless work over the years.
All the best for Christmas and the New Year.
Viv
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It looks like brevitas has used the "Control +" in the browser which increases the size. The small vertical line on the stitching on that screenshot suggest that anyhow.
Hi again, thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I've spoken to brevitas - she's cooking tea, but she said she hadn't used the control +, that's just her normal view from a 17'' laptop screen. Just checked and my monitor is 22". It wasn't the overall appearance, I really like that - it's the font that varies between hers and mine ?
Pels.
Added : Hopefully a better example :
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I've had a good play today and am liking. It still looks odd but that's just cos it's different.
The only thing that I'd change is to move the ads from appearing in the middle of threads but if it's not possible then it isn't.
Now that I know what's where, back to the serious business of finding them pesky ancestors!
To those who are not so keen - give it a go. Honestly you will find it easier as you go! It's still Rootschat and still has the same marvellous people. It just looks a wee bit different but in performance terms it's much faster which can only be a good thing!
Ann :D
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Ok, so I've been playing around with the control (+) thing and now I can't get it back. Help please
Casalguidi
Quickest way is control and zero. Takes you back to normal. ;D
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Thankyou Groom, I'll try and remember that though I'm not so sure there is such a thing as "normal" sometimes ;D
Casalguidi :)
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It looks like brevitas has used the "Control +" in the browser which increases the size. The small vertical line on the stitching on that screenshot suggest that anyhow.
Hi again, thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I've spoken to brevitas - she's cooking tea, but she said she hadn't used the control +, that's just her normal view from a 17'' laptop screen. Just checked and my monitor is 22". It wasn't the overall appearance, I really like that - it's the font that varies between hers and mine ?
Pels.
Added : Hopefully a better example :
Pels, I probably don't know what I'm talking about ::) but have you set your zoom level at 125% ? Your screen looks the same as mine and because of my eyesight I have set mine at 125.
When I use the ctrl- my screen looks like Brevitas and I noticed when I then googled something that my zoom had changed to 100%
I think I'm going to have to leave my screen looking the same as yours because it is an eyestrain to read the print when it's smaller.
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Bit of a surprise when I dropped by, but I have to agree with my OH (don't I?) - the content and the people are the same, and that's the value.
One odd thing is that some of the county boards are showing up in old format - but it doesn't worry me.
The only thing I'm not sure about is the narrowness and colour of the thread titles - perhaps they should be bold?
Anyway thanks for all your hard work, Trystan - wouldn't want you to feel that it's a thankless task. I doubt though that you and Sarah expected the site to be so thriving as it approaches its 10th birthday
JULIAN
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Just found (another) problem I think, Trystan....when posting a reply with an image attached and getting the "red notice" of another reply just having been posted, when I try again I find there is "already an image with that filename". Seems the photo is being uploaded to the server while the post is rejected...this has just happened 6 times and I said some very rude words :P
Suggestions?:....can you fix this? And I don't mean wash my mouth out with soap ;D ;D ;D
Cheers,
China
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Pels, I probably don't know what I'm talking about ::) but have you set your zoom level at 125% ? Your screen looks the same as mine and because of my eyesight I have set mine at 125.
When I use the ctrl- my screen looks like Brevitas and I noticed when I then googled something that my zoom had changed to 100%
I think I'm going to have to leave my screen looking the same as yours because it is an eyestrain to read the print when it's smaller.
It's set at 100% (control - 0) I haven't touched anything. The font 'brevitas' has looks as though it's in 'block' compared to mine ? Her image will look slightly different because we have our settings the opposite way round - therefore the background colour is different on the examples I'm using.
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Another upshot of the revamp is that this thread is throwing up ways to use our computers and the site that we didn't know about :)
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Just testing the attachment thing...
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A lovelie horselefse carriage indeede Master Trystan, butte yt do need a goodly cleanyng....praye bryng yt to ye Rooteschatte Inne and I shalle sweepe yt forthwyth.
Chyna, notte ye wrestlyng wenche
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May we please have current Date & Time displayed on each screen - just like before
I used this all the time (being in a different time/date zone) to see how old a message/post is.
Still playing with all the new functionality :D
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Thank you for sorting out the problem with being able to see our own profiles as others see them. I use mine quite regularly, not because I like looking at myself but because I tend to forget where a particular thread is, so refer to my own posts as a way of keeping track!
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May we please have current Date & Time displayed on each screen - just like before
Lady Di, you asked so nicely, so yes, now you should see it on the top-right (it's a little feint though).
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UPDATE:
Dark Grey side panels gone.
Paper-pulp textured side panels now in.
Press the function key F5 to see it.
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Late to the party ... reading 35 pages is a little onerous at this point ...
Generally, I hate it. Far too much wasted space on pages, calling for too much scrolling. (For instance, there is no need for the left-hand column with usernames and avatars to be so wide: everything in that column could be smaller, freeing up more monitor width for the actual content, which is what people are interested in.)
One specific query.
In the "England (Counties as in 1851-1901)", there is now a big ugly "NEW" beside each child board that has unread posts. There is no need for this, since which boards have new posts can be seen at a glance: the link is in boldface font, while the link for a board with no unread posts is in regular font. I only read a few boards, generally, so this county listing is littered with pointless "NEW"s for me permanently now.
I prefer to eliminate unnecessary graphics from what I see on the monitor, to do away with the visual distraction and increase the space available for content. (That goes for the big fancy graphic at the top of RootsChat now -- except that while I've managed to get rid of the graphic content itself, I'm left with a white space the same depth that I can't eliminate.)
Could the "NEW" graphic not just be eliminated from the county listings under England etc., and anywhere else where it is obvious from the link itself whether or not it has been visited since there was something new added?
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UPDATE:
Dark Grey side panels gone.
Paper-pulp textured side panels now in.
Press the function key F5 to see it.
Much nicer, thank you
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YEA! :)
We have a happy RootsChatter!
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May we please have current Date & Time displayed on each screen - just like before
Lady Di, you asked so nicely, so yes, now you should see it on the top-right (it's a little feint though).
Oh well done Trystan :-*
(I have no problems with "feint" - still does it's job and makes life so much easier)
That's what I call wonderful fast work.
THANK YOU
Have a very happy Christmas
Di
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Thank you Di - hope you have a wonderful Christmas too. :)
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Top marks for sorting out the moans and groans. The replies/unreads seem to be bigger (?), names and avatars at the left not so intrusive - been made smaller (or is it me getting used to them ?), photos sorted, flashing sorted, side panels sorted, date and time in. (Probably lots of other stuff I can't notice as well.) What can I say? If it had to be changed, it's being changed to accommodate as many preferences as possible. And you can't say fairer than that.
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Having spent a few minutes finding out where everything now is, where I can see unread posts and replies etc, I really like the new layout. It is very clear to read. I am sure once folk have found their way around they will appreciate the changes. :)
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Just went into Chat, interested that there are 11 people in there ::) then I couldn't get out again, so had to close down Roots and re-open. I'm sure there's some way back out, although I won't go in again as I don't have time to spend chatting. ;D ;D
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I also like the fact that you can see who started a post!
Well done Trystan and Sarah and thank you again for a super site!
Viv
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Forgot to say, something else I like is when receiving an e-mail notification of a PM it shows the first line of the PM (well it might show more, but the one I received was only a one line comment). It must be my age, but whenever I get notification of a PM, I think I've done something wrong :( so it's lovely to see part of the PM before I open it.
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UPDATE:
Dark Grey side panels gone.
Paper-pulp textured side panels now in.
Press the function key F5 to see it.
Wow.....thanks Trystan. We're learning so much about our PCs and RC via this thread.
(I have never used F5 before ::))
Brilliant :)
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The new Rootschat was a bit of a "shock", but I'm sure that I'll get used it over the next few days!
However, one or two comments/questions (apologies if these have already been covered on this thread, but I really don't have the time to read through 37 pages!).
1) Have had to log in twice now - despite checking the "Always Stay Logged In" option.
2) Computer has frozen twice in the last ten minutes whilst reading this thread (may be coincidence, but have not had any problems on other sites today).
3) On county boards (where I mainly hang out), there no longer seems to be anything showing a "Topic You Have Posted In".
Pennie
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Just went into Chat, interested that there are 11 people in there ::) then I couldn't get out again, so had to close down Roots and re-open. I'm sure there's some way back out, although I won't go in again as I don't have time to spend chatting. ;D ;D
Ditto Lizzie - first time in 5 years I've been able to access the Chat room.
It works for me now thanks to Trystan's update so there's certainly a bonus or two to the upgrade.
I also had to logout from the chatroom and re select RC in Favourites - but I was still signed in on RC so no real problem.
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1) Have had to log in twice now - despite checking the "Always Stay Logged In" option.
2) Computer has frozen twice in the last ten minutes whilst reading this thread (may be coincidence, but have not had any problems on other sites today).
3) On county boards (where I mainly hang out), there no longer seems to be anything showing a "Topic You Have Posted In".
Hi Pennie,
1) I'll have to watch the "logged in" thing - although I don't think I've had to re-log in myself yet.
2) I think that your computer freezing is likely to be a coincidence - but I'm often wrong.
3) That is something that we are going to bring back, where you can tell the topics you've posted in on a board index (they used to be in yellow).
Trystan
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Far too much wasted space on pages, calling for too much scrolling. (For instance, there is no need for the left-hand column with usernames and avatars to be so wide: everything in that column could be smaller, freeing up more monitor width for the actual content, which is what people are interested in.)
I just wanted to expand on that.
I downsize by one control-minus (because I find big font ugly, and usually, doing that means more content can be seen on the monitor).
In the old version, changing the font size did not change the size of the content portion -- i.e. did not narrow the content / increase the width of the grey borders. Try it here (a thread still visible in old version):
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,623059.0.html
And then try it on the page you are reading. Upsize a couple of levels, and downsize a couple of levels.
In the new version, downsizing the font actually narrows the content.
You can see how in the old version, the width of the content stays the same, as the font size is reduced, and more content is visible on the screen -- while in the new version, the content area narrows when the font size is reduced, creating the totally wasted space in the grey bands on the screen and showing very little more content, since the content now takes up more vertical space per line of text.
I imagine this is not something likely to change (I am familiar with the phenomenon from another board and it is likely an inherent structural thing) but it sure isn't welcome at this end!
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Definitely not a complaint just a query
I don't visit the chat room - since my one and only incursion when I was very new - so how do I have 13 replies showing - what is more interesting is that I had fourteen a little while ago! ;D ;D ;D
I'm not going there to find out! ;D :D
A very Happy Christmas and thanks for the new 'present'! 8) If I said this before it was many pages ago and you may have forgotten like I have! ;)
Wiggy
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Definitely not a complaint just a query
I don't visit the chat room - since my one and only incursion when I was very new - so how do I have 13 replies showing - what is more interesting is that I had fourteen a little while ago! ;D ;D ;D
Wiggy
The CHAT (12) is showing the number of people logged into the ChatRoom - not the number of messages/replies that you have
Merry Christmas
Di
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Thanks Di - I see it has now gone down to 10 -thanks for the explanation! :D
Wiggy :)
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Things are settling in, Trystan :)
Still having the photo upload problem....not only do get the "same filename" message, but I cannot change the filename in my photo editor. Says the name cannot be changed because the file is in use by another user. Which it is not. And when you're posting to Ye Inne and your filename is something like ye-meade-ande-sweetmeates1, you know there probably isn't really another photo with the same filename :P ;D
What's going on??
Cheers,
China
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I'm adding my voice to the positive comments. I really like the new look and the ease of navigation. Many thanks to Trystan and Sarah for all their hard work.
:D
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Things are settling in, Trystan :)
Still having the photo upload problem....not only do get the "same filename" message, but I cannot change the filename in my photo editor. Says the name cannot be changed because the file is in use by another user. Which it is not. And when you're posting to Ye Inne and your filename is something like ye-meade-ande-sweetmeates1, you know there probably isn't really another photo with the same filename :P ;D
What's going on??
Cheers,
China
China - please send me a Personal Message about this and we'll see if we can sort it out, as I'm unable to copy your problem at the moment. It may possibly because be I'm being thick. We're 38 pages into a thread, so avoiding duplication of a problem or comment on here would be great.
Trystan
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I'm adding my voice to the positive comments. I really like the new look and the ease of navigation. Many thanks to Trystan and Sarah for all their hard work.
:D
Osprey - thank you ever so much - We're delighted that you like the new look!
Trystan
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Trystan thank you again for all the huge amount of hard work you have put into this. I for one am very happy with the way things are going.
It's sad though to read on another thread your feelings about some of the comments that have been made :'(
No, I read each and every one of the postings to do with the site. In some cases they are utterly demoralising and very hurtful
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I work in a Government dept and know to my cost how complicated any new IT changes are, so quite happy to try and give it time to sort out, but can anyone tell me if there is any replacement for the old 'new replies to your posts' that used to sit at the top of each page? Can't find it anywhere, and that was really useful.
I think I'l need to spend some time adjusting my zoom or view, because I can only see one section of each page at a time.
So far, just confused but I'm sure it will all settle down.
What did take ages was trying to remember what my password had been, it's so long since I had to log in. Finally found it..
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Very top left, Maggie, above the Rootschat logo.
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Thanks ChinaKay! Got it now.
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This is the problem I was trying to report earlier when I could not paste an image
See how the red brown font is thicker and thinner
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I work in a Government dept and know to my cost how complicated any new IT changes are, so quite happy to try and give it time to sort out, but can anyone tell me if there is any replacement for the old 'new replies to your posts' that used to sit at the top of each page? Can't find it anywhere, and that was really useful.
Top left - "Replies"! :D
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Hi all, not sure if Ive found a problem but there does not seem to be a "Modify" button on the posts,
I only found out as I asked how to show a topic as completed and was advised to use the modify button. :o
jess5athome
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Hi all, not sure if Ive found a problem but there does not seem to be a "Modify" button on the posts,
Top right of the post you wish to modify. Beside the 'quote' button.
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Hi jenB, thats my point, it is not there :(
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Hi all, not sure if Ive found a problem but there does not seem to be a "Modify" button on the posts,
Top right of the post you wish to modify. Beside the 'quote' button.
It also appears bottom right of my posts above the IP adress and the "report to moderator" button, looks bit like a pencil on a triangular piece of paper. It may depend on which browser you are using.
If I modify a post using the pencil et al icon, then it appears by quote, but you need to click the logo in the bottom for it to appear. Mind you if I use this shortcut, I don't get the option to add an emotive icons. If I then click modify, then they appear as an option, seems to be one is a full modify and one is just to modify text. ???
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Hi jenB, thats my point, it is not there :(
You can only modify your own posts?! ;D
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Hello...
My "Mobile" button seems to have disappeared. It was next to the green(?) Facebook link in the top-right corner but that space now belongs to a time and date counter. I'm guessing that the counter relates to replies #348 and #350 but I can't see where the "Mobile" button now resides.
For what it's worth, I fully appreciate the amount of work gone into the re-vamp. But now that the dust is settling I far prefer the "Mobile" look even though I'm browsing on a desktop. Otherwise there is way too much visual clutter.
All that's important is reading the thread and everything else (avatars, stars, adverts, borders, fonts, research interests) should be background noise. But they've all been given an equal voice and they're very noisy and simply drown out the thread....if you'll excuse my mixing audio and visual metaphors.
The "Mobile" button does away with the clutter but I can no longer find the button. Please help.
Thanks
Beg
Using Opera 12.01 and Ubuntu 12.04
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Things are settling in, Trystan :)
Still having the photo upload problem....not only do get the "same filename" message, but I cannot change the filename in my photo editor. Says the name cannot be changed because the file is in use by another user. Which it is not. And when you're posting to Ye Inne and your filename is something like ye-meade-ande-sweetmeates1, you know there probably isn't really another photo with the same filename :P ;D
What's going on??
Cheers,
China
I think you're seeing a 'problem' that has always been there. In the old forum, if you previewed a post which had an attachment, it would not accept the file name again when the Post button was used. The 'other user' which is using your file is your browser. You will need to close that down before you can re-name the file.
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For Trystan from a whiner ;)
(http://www.bestdemot.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/demot_full/BestDemot_936.jpg)
http://www.bestdemot.com/content/inventions
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Hello Trystan
I felt :( to read that you had been hurt and de-moralised by some of the comments about the new
set-up.
Never fear - I'm sure we will all get used to it in double quick time ;) :)
Christmas Greetings to you and yours. Have a good rest. :) :)
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I've just replied to a post from earlier this evening on the Essex Board and it's defaulted to the old Rootschat format and doesn't give you any font/icon options. ???
Personally I use the full site view even when viewing on a smartphone, I find the mobile version rather constrained. Each to their own.
I also appreciate the amount of work that must have gone into change the site, particularly as I work in IT so I know just what it can be like. ;)
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Freaked out when I first saw it and thought I was on the wrong site. There has obviously been a tremendous amount of work put into it but I thought it was fine as it was. However, I am getting used to the new look. Just two things I really don't like - the colour of the headings of the recent posts and the very irritating ads part way down the page. Any chance of them being put at the top or bottom???
I understand there is now a mobile app. I can't seem to find out how to access it.
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Yuk!
But I'll get used to it.
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Hello Trystan
I felt :( to read that you had been hurt and de-moralised by some of the comments about the new
set-up.
Never fear - I'm sure we will all get used to it in double quick time ;) :)
I second that Emmeline. I for one really appreciate all the time and effort you've put into sorting out the teething problems Trystan. It is usually the same whenever people are asked anything, those who dont like it or have a complaint tend to comment, those that are happy tend not to. I think you've done a great job and after the initial shock of seeing the new layout I really like it.
Happy Christmas.
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I worked in IT before I retired and went through two or three similar situations to this and I really, really empathise/sympathise with Trystan. Migrations such as this take months of hard work behind the scenes and the only way to test the new format is to go live. And of course there are going to be glitches; of course there are going to be a few problems. But if people can be a bit positive and remember all the hard work that has gone on behind the scenes, it would be helpful. I can understand why Trystan might feel sad and disappointed about the reaction. He is probably exhausted because of all the extra work and the stress. All hail to you Trystan, Sarah, mods and everyone else involved. I salute you and recognise that you have all been working your butts off to make sure that RC is fit for purpose and ready to scale new heights. Thank you all for this wonderful facility - I just can never say how much RC has changed my life!
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How very well put GS :). I agree with every word. (well apart from working in IT cos I didn't)
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It's different, but it is still Rootschat and probably the best family history site your going to find.
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I think you're seeing a 'problem' that has always been there. In the old forum, if you previewed a post which had an attachment, it would not accept the file name again when the Post button was used. The 'other user' which is using your file is your browser. You will need to close that down before you can re-name the file.
Thanks Nick, but no. Never had the problem before...and I have posted hundreds of images.
In the old RC, if I got a red post, the attachment would unattach and all I'd have to do was reattach it. I have never had to rename an attempted attachment because the RC server wouldn't take it, and I have never had to close a browser to rename any file.
Cheers,
China
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It's different, but it is still Rootschat and probably the best family history site your going to find.
Only "probably", YT?
;D ;D ;D
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Um, something has happened since my last visit (last night Australian time). I'm sure I read about 28 pages of this thread and now it is back to 16. Anyway, I notice that a couple of things have changed since then (and all for the better I might say). The first thing I noticed is the pale grey edges to the sides of the page, which I think look really good. The new look site is improving all the time! :)
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Mine says 40 pages
- what have you been drinking Ruskie?? - Christmas cheer! Or maybe your computer has! ;) ;)
Cheers!
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Mine says 40 pages
- what have you been drinking Ruskie?? - Christmas cheer! Or maybe your computer has! ;) ;)
Cheers!
Mine says 16 as well Wiggy. ??? 17 now
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I did have a couple of sly ones last night Wiggy, but I am quite sober this morning. ;D Just checked and we are now up to page 17 as groom says.
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I've now read my way through all the pages on this thread. Oh poor Trystan, I think it comes under the heading of 'woe unto he who tries to please everyone'!
The interesting thing is that to see what everyone else said I used the 'print' option to be able to read straight down without the breaks, and then pressing the 'back' button to come back I found the thread was quite easy to read
Like most, I get set in my ways, and yes the impact of the new design was a shock and I can't say I liked it at first sight, but I'm getting used to it already.
The variation in fonts seem to have bothered a fair few people. Once you get into reading the posts I think the fonts in the body text are fine (I'm talking from the accessability aspect, not the size, you've covered how to increase/decrease in detail). The font used for some of the headers has been remarked on, and I can see why when I look at the headers at the top of this page reading 'Hi Maggie 1895 Unread Replies Logout' etc. I work on screen all day and have a prescription for screen glasses that allow me to move comfortably between everything from pictures to html language, yet I find real difficulty reading those headers because they are so narrow and crammed together.
But that's a very minor point, but we all have a tendency to seize on one small niggle when feeling insecure. Bit like seeing an old friend with a new haircut and a facelift, and not liking it because it 'doesn't look like her'? All these small details may be future quick fixes if Trystan is in the mood to do any more tweaking later and not lying down somewhere in a darkened room through 2013? (and who could blame him)
What I can see is a huge piece of work to implement all this, and I agree with some of the other comments - RC is a brilliant site with so much help and support available for all of us, and all free. If this, including adverts interspersed across threads, is the way it needs to go to stay available, then thanks very much for all the hard work.
Us Luddites get attached to our old looms, but underneath it all, we're willing to try them there new fangled machines, honest.
ps - I think we're on Page 41, but then I was on the mulled wine earlier...
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Trystan you darling! You have increased the text size of the quotes!!! :-* 100% better! :)
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Trystan you darling! You have increased the text size of the quotes!!! :-* 100% better! :)
I'll second that! I spent so long writing my comment earlier it happened whilst I was typing (whether or Page 41 or Page 17 we'll never know)
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Page 41 here. You know why you're only seeing 17 on the other side of the world? It's cause the world has ended for you, and things are winking out of existence.
The rest will disappear in a few hours.
;D ;D ;D ;D
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ChinaKay,
In that case may I say it's been very nice to know you all on Rootschat? Sitting uphere in the frozen north I may get the last glimpse as everything south of me slips under the waves
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Page 41 here. You know why you're only seeing 17 on the other side of the world? It's cause the world has ended for you, and things are winking out of existence.
The rest will disappear in a few hours.
;D ;D ;D ;D
Hey you - i'm on the other side of the world and I'm seeing 41 - ;D ;D
Anyone noticed the really groovy little correct button, bottom right of your post - you can change things really quickly with it - as I am doing now! If it was always there, I've never noticed it before!
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Is us in the middle who have 17? :D
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Definitely page 17 Maggie. And nicely said.
The thing is that at least Trystan and team are trying to please everyone (bless them) - most web sites would just have been changed and it would be tough if the punters didn't like it. The RC team do listen to us and bend over backwards to help. Of course there will be the odd little thing that is not perfect or not to everyone's taste, but that will always be the case with all sites. At least I hope Trystan doesn't see any of my 'suggestions' as criticisms, which is not my intention. Everything here on RC is in much the same place and I for one am used to it already.
It did even cross my mind if we should put together some kind of voluntary "collection plate" so we could raise some money to contribute towards the financial costs of making the changes to the site. I would have no idea how to go about this, or the logistics of collecting donations from the various rootschatters worldwide. A few pounds from each member may help a little? Thoughts anyone?
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Hi there
Sorry but I don't like it
I appreciate the work involved and give thanks that roots chat is there but I was attached to the friendliness of the old look ....
Jrt
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Tried to log on yesterday and my McAfee said " Whoah do you really want to go there" so I knew something was up and thought it likely that Trystan was introducing the changes he had been talking about on here for a few weeks. I logged on tonight and had no problem so I read all of the comments both on here and the Photo Restoration Board thread.
Yes... It took a while but one can hardly comment or criticise if one hasn't EVEN taken the time (about an hour ) to read all the the comments on the threads involved, especially when one considers the time (probably at least hundreds and hundreds of hours!) that must have been spent in developing the changes to bring this forum bang up to date.
Obviously some things have been modified in the last 18 -20 hours and I am seeing the results of those changes as opposed to seeing how the site looked immediately after the " changeover ".
I have to say I think it's fabulous Trystan and Sarah! Outstanding in design and clarity. Looks great on all platforms; smartphones, tablet, laptop and desktop! Well done Trystan and the gang. What generous souls you really are. Thank you, thank you ....This site means such a lot to so, so many people for lots of reasons and I, for one, am very grateful to you and Sarah for the gift that is RootsChat ... or Rootschat. ;) ( hey .. upper or lower case ....it's not that important in the scheme of things.) ;) ;D
Polly :)
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As has been said the new format was a bit uncomfortable but I am now used to it and have forgotten what it was like before. Thanks to the team for all their hard work and sorting the niggles.
Happy Christmas everyone. Sandra
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Thats odd I have had 3 email alerts re my last post. Sandra
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Um, something has happened since my last visit (last night Australian time). I'm sure I read about 28 pages of this thread and now it is back to 16.
Ruskie, there is a setting in your profile settings that changes the number of messages per page. The options are 5, 10, 25 or 50. I think 10 is the default (mine is set to 10 and I have 40-odd pages. The result of changing that would be a difference in the number of pages required for the entire thread. Could that be the reason?
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Brilliant, ReadyDale!
I was beginning to wonder how different computers could show page 42 or page 17, so I just went to my profile, found the drop down and changed my settings from 10 per page default to 25 per page.
Came to this thread again, and voila, I'm on Page 17.
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Just for information:
The default of 10 replies per page was chosen as optimal for loading and accessing.
More replies per page means that it takes longer to load and and you have to scroll more often.
As a tip for reading long topics: use the "Print" button :)
http://www.rootschat.com/help/faqs.php#long_topics
Bob
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Hi
Here is my message about the new site (I put it in the wrong thread to start with - thanks Berlin Bob for letting me know).
Whoa. Just logged on and got a shock! I wondered if I'd found a different website with the same name for a minute.
I was glad to find it isn't... same interesting posts, same offers of help and look-ups, same friendly people, same lovely hosts
I am finding the new design hard to read *ducks* (sorry Tristan). Some of the text is too small, and the font used on the titles is too narrow. I'm meant to have good eyesight but maybe it's time to get booked in for a check up (but then I do use a MackBook so a smaller screen than a large desktop). It's affecting my eyes already so I may find I come on less (PM me instead as I'll get an email).
Please don't think I'm complaining to annoy, it's just my opinion, and I realise change will be an improvement for the majority of users as well as all the technical mumbo jumbo that I don't understand
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Hi all, not sure if Ive found a problem but there does not seem to be a "Modify" button on the posts,
Top right of the post you wish to modify. Beside the 'quote' button.
It also appears bottom right of my posts above the IP adress and the "report to moderator" button, looks bit like a pencil on a triangular piece of paper. It may depend on which browser you are using.
If I modify a post using the pencil et al icon, then it appears by quote, but you need to click the logo in the bottom for it to appear. Mind you if I use this shortcut, I don't get the option to add an emotive icons. If I then click modify, then they appear as an option, seems to be one is a full modify and one is just to modify text. ???
No MODIFY button showing up for me either on my posts. Using latest Firefox. Nothing there in IE either.
Ian C
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The MODIFY button has shown up with the post just done, but is not on any of my previous posts anywhere.
Ian C
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Ooooh, haven't logged on for a while and what a lovely surprise. The new format looks fantastic - very easy to read.
The only thing bugging me is the new logo ... out of the corner of my eye it looks like a black spider is sitting on my screen. :o I'm sure I'll get used to it. ;D
Thanks for all the hard work that's gone in to the changes.
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Very swish, but I had to re login to get to post. Is it easier to use, those who've already had a good look around? Or is it purely cosmetic - or has it made it worse??
Ho ho ho
:)
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The poor appearance of the smaller red-brown font seems to be (for me) on Google CHrome and that at least appears OK on Firefox
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Phew! Just read through 40+ pages.
Can I say? ...
Trystan please don't take people's complaints and criticisms personally. We all know what an incredible job you and your team do (with or without bikkies as fortification).
My first reaction the other night was whaaaat!?
I didn't like the huge type - and note with amusement that others received it as tiny type.
And brown has never been my favorite colour. But also found all the competing colours just that - competing.
But now lots of things have been ironed out and, with a bit of lateral thinking, we will all get used to them in time
However, I decided it was easier to PRINT to screen to read all those pages, and this threw me out of RC altogether so when I closed the print screen I didn't have access, whereas previously I could look at the print version and the onscreen version simultaneously. Is it possible to get that back? Or at least to let us stay on site when finished reading the print version?
It didn't log me out - I got back in by clicking the access thing on a notification email I still had.
Thanks for all your hard work
Dawn M
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The poor appearance of the smaller red-brown font seems to be (for me) on Google CHrome and that at least appears OK on Firefox
Please see my post in the Tech forum on how to change the settings in the different browsers :)
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The poor appearance of the smaller red-brown font seems to be (for me) on Google CHrome and that at least appears OK on Firefox
Please see my post in the Tech forum on how to change the settings in the different browsers :)
I was not able to improve the appearance in this way
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Very swish, but I had to re login to get to post. Is it easier to use, those who've already had a good look around? Or is it purely cosmetic - or has it made it worse??
Ho ho ho
:)
Early days yet, but I have easily managed to navigate to where I needed so far. :)
I think the new layout deserves more time - any early judgement of new against old is simply reflecting comparison of the unfamiliar with the familiar.
As a computer programmer of the mid 1980s (does anyone remember COBOL?) and as someone involved in IT implementations for over 15 years, I can only marvel at how well the changeover has been effected.
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I remember COBOL - we had to learn BASIC and PASCAL - looks like the dark ages compared to now - my very own digital cave paintings ;)
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Yes: FORTRAN, COBOL, ALGOL, CORAL (a real time ALGOL), assembler (about 10 different kinds), etc, etc.
I work (when I'm not on RootsChat) for a company supplying large computer systems and my latest job area (for the last 10 years) is updating computer systems for our customers so I can (modestly) claim to know what it's like :)
I agree with gaffy that the changeover has gone very well and, from my professional experience, I wholeheartedly agree with this:
I think the new layout deserves more time - any early judgement of new against old is simply reflecting comparison of the unfamiliar with the familiar.
Bob
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I suspect B-Bob and the other RC whizz kids have been working on this with Trystan .... or if not, just how amazing IS Trystan sorting this all out by himself. The man is a saint .... as are all the mods who have to put up with un-necessary aggro from some members of this truly wonderful site.
My congratulations and :-* :-* :-* to all the team .... Merry Christmas !! And get some rest all of you !
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Trystan did all the work (he is amazing !) - the other mods just supplied encouragement - and Sarah provided the tea and biscuits.
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Agree with everything Lydart has said.....and, to quote, "You've all done very well" :)
Nanny Jan
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As a computer programmer of the mid 1980s (does anyone remember COBOL?) and as someone involved in IT implementations for over 15 years, I can only marvel at how well the changeover has been effected.
Remember COBOL? I still use it!!
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can I ask for another small change please :)
On the Mobile site, can we also have a link to the full site at the top of the page. It takes ages to scroll through to the bottom to the page on a small screen.
A Big thanks to all those behind the scenes to make this happen... glad they didn't do what usually happens in my last big company on project implimentation day... they all go on leave which left the rest of us running round like goodness knows what trying to put things right and take the flack.
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As a computer programmer of the mid 1980s (does anyone remember COBOL?) and as someone involved in IT implementations for over 15 years, I can only marvel at how well the changeover has been effected.
Remember COBOL? I still use it!!
I suppose that makes you, me, Kiwi Girl, and Berlin-Bob a load of old COBOL'ers ;D (sorry, couldn't resist it...)
Seriously though, thanks to Trystan and Sarah.
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On the Mobile site, can we also have a link to the full site at the top of the page
Hello jc26red...
Can I ask how you got to the Mobile site. There used to be a button in the top-right corner but I can no longer find it.
Thanks
Beg
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I suppose that makes you, me, Kiwi Girl, and Berlin-Bob a load of old COBOL'ers ;D (sorry, couldn't resist it...)
if( prefer )
{
Old programmers never die - they just lose their byte
}
else
{
Old programmers never die - they just lose their bits
}
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Can I ask how you got to the Mobile site. There used to be a button in the top-right corner but I can no longer find it.
That was causing a lot of problems for non-mobile users who clicked it by mistake, so Trystan removed it.
The software will recognise what type of computer is being used and set the style accordlingly, but it's possible that some hand-held devices will not be recognised.
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Slight issue for me. As a result of the format changes, the website symbol underneath the profile picture has changed from a globe (world wide web - geddit?) to a house (home page!!!).
On the webspace board I maintain a list of Rootschatter's family history websites.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,336023.0.html (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,336023.0.html)
In that I explain about going to people's sites by clicking the globe. I now want to update that so it refers to clicking the house symbol.
I unlocked the thread, and found there was no modify button. Is this because the posts pre-dated the look and feel change, or am I missing a trick?
BTW Already getting used to the new look. If there's info that can be shared about how better the site is performing, that might help the doubters come to better terms with the changes?
JULIAN
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With the new software you now have 24 hours to check your posts for typos etc.
After that they can't be modified.
Julian, I will PM you :)
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I haven’t had much time to be active online for the past couple of days, but my initial reaction last night to the updates was “I like it!” My second reaction was “It’ll give me some good brain exercise adjusting to the changes. (And we all know that brain exercise is good for us!)
So far the only thing that’s giving me grief is the colour of the topic headings……that light brownish shade is not good for eyes that have a problem.
I must echo the thanks that people have been posting to Trystan and Sarah for providing Rootschat and putting so much time into it – I don’t know what I’d do without it! :)
With the new software you now have 24 hours to check your posts for typos etc.
After that they can't be modified.
Oh dear.....methinks there'll be some typos there forever...... ;D ;D
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With the new software you now have 24 hours to check your posts for typos etc.
After that they can't be modified.
Oh dear.....methinks there'll be some typos there forever...... ;D ;D
Some people seem to type a reply, save it and go on to the next topic without checking their work, but I think most of us do check what we've written :)
You can always ask a moderator to correct the worst mistakes. Unfortunately too many people were using the edit facility to change the information in their posts after further information had been received. This meant that some of the following replies suddenly made no sense.
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Tis OK, Bob.....I'm just laughing at the thought of having some of my typos there forever. ;D
I do check, because I make heaps of typos with my very crooked fingers, but sometimes some do slip through, and I don't seem to notice them.
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Can I ask how you got to the Mobile site. There used to be a button in the top-right corner but I can no longer find it.
That was causing a lot of problems for non-mobile users who clicked it by mistake, so Trystan removed it.
The software will recognise what type of computer is being used and set the style accordlingly, but it's possible that some hand-held devices will not be recognised.
well it didn't recognise an ipad :-\
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Tis OK, Bob.....I'm just laughing at the thought of having some of my typos there forever. ;D
I do check, because I make heaps of typos with my very crooked fingers, but sometimes some do slip through, and I don't seem to notice them.
It doesn't matter what order letters are in a word. ... Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe
Hope this helps ;D
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Tis OK, Bob.....I'm just laughing at the thought of having some of my typos there forever. ;D
I do check, because I make heaps of typos with my very crooked fingers, but sometimes some do slip through, and I don't seem to notice them.
It doesn't matter what order letters are in a word. ... Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe
Hope this helps ;D
I know it's Christmas and all that, but 11AM is a bit early to hit the sherry, isn't it ? ;) ;D ;D ;D
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Can I ask how you got to the Mobile site. There used to be a button in the top-right corner but I can no longer find it.
That was causing a lot of problems for non-mobile users who clicked it by mistake, so Trystan removed it.
The software will recognise what type of computer is being used and set the style accordlingly, but it's possible that some hand-held devices will not be recognised.
well it didn't recognise an ipad :-\
Good job it doesn't IMHO, i didnt like the mobile version at all. But there again it's all down to individual choice!
Having read through all the replies on this thread, i must add my two pennyworth and say that i liked it from the start and even more so now i've got used to the new layout. Well done to all concerned.
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Can I ask how you got to the Mobile site. There used to be a button in the top-right corner but I can no longer find it.
That was causing a lot of problems for non-mobile users who clicked it by mistake, so Trystan removed it.
The software will recognise what type of computer is being used and set the style accordlingly, but it's possible that some hand-held devices will not be recognised.
well it didn't recognise an ipad :-\
I don't think you'd need the mobile version on a 10" screen ? :)
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Unfortunately too many people were using the edit facility to change the information in their posts after further information had been received. This meant that some of the following replies suddenly made no sense.
That's excellent news that this loophole has now been closed ;D ;D
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Could be me but still having a problem with "shrink a link" - have given it a few tries today :'(
Sandra
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I think we've sorted what my problem is, but it's not good for me.Hopefully this might help some of those people who are experiencing problems with the font appearing blurred and hurting their eyes.
Following advice from Tomkin, brevitas has the screen resolution on her monitor set at :
1680 x 1050 pixels with colour quality set at the highest.
In comparison mine is set :
1024 x 768 with colour quality - highest.
If I try and change mine to the optimum allowed on this monitor (1600 x 1200) the image I'm viewing is more or less identical to hers, which visually for RootsChat, is perfect. But, I can't see anything else and the top toolbar all but disappears.
I'm still on XP, if anyone else who is having problems :
Control panel
Appearance and Themes
Display
or
Right click on your desktop and select 'dispay properties' then 'settings'.
Unfortunately it's my problem and I can't do a thing about it without changing everything else to something which is impossible to view. I'd be curious to know whether the people who are having a nightmare with their eyes can alter their settings to the preferred resolution to see if works for them. Feeling a bit fed up about it to be honest, I can't buy a new monitor when I've got a perfectly good one here, especially when it's only this site which is affected. But eyes are so flippin' precious and I'm frightened to death I damage mine.
Pels.
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Are you using your browser in full screen modus ?
with a 1600 x 1200 monitor you could try reducing the size of the browser window
I have 1440 x 900 and I usually have 7 or 8 windows open, and I slide slide things around so I always see a part of the most important ones. I find it easier to click directly on the window than to search for it below in the toolbar.
Bob
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Um, something has happened since my last visit (last night Australian time). I'm sure I read about 28 pages of this thread and now it is back to 16.
Ruskie, there is a setting in your profile settings that changes the number of messages per page. The options are 5, 10, 25 or 50. I think 10 is the default (mine is set to 10 and I have 40-odd pages. The result of changing that would be a difference in the number of pages required for the entire thread. Could that be the reason?
Thank you very much Dale and Bob. Last night I fiddled round with my settings hence the weird number of pages I was seeing. I don't understand why or how it made a difference (and it doesn't matter) but I have now reset back to the default, and I can see all of the pages of this post - :D
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... I have read about 17 pages of this thread ...
A quick tip for all newcomers to this topic, and for "oldcomers" who want to re-read it ...
Click on the "print" button at the top or bottom right of the topic. This won't actually print it but will display the whole topic on one page (in a printable format). You won't see any images, but there aren't that many on this topic so that shouldn't be a problem.
http://www.rootschat.com/help/faqs.php#long_topics
regards,
Bob
Phew thanks - the notification emails haven't been able to keep up and it was taking an age to catch up.
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If you have a flat-screen monitor, it is fairly important that you set your graphics settings to match the capabilities of your monitor. It won't damage the monitor if you don't, but if you use the wrong setting, images can appear stretched, and the quality of text on the screen won't appear as clear as it could be.
What you need to do is to find the manual for your monitor (or Google the make/model) and find the native resolution of the screen. This is the actual number of pixels on the screen horizontally x vertically. If you have a 1920 x 1080 screen and you supply it with 1280 x 1024 graphics, the screen will have to continually 're-map' the pixels, and the aspect ratio won't be right, so pictures will appear distorted. When you set the graphics output to match the native resolution of the monitor, then all the pixel information will go to the intended screen pixels, and it will look as good as it possibly can be.
Sometimes you will have to hunt for the native resolution of a flat screen, but it will be there somewhere.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_resolution
P.S. When the computer monitor is exactly matched by the video output settings, it is said to be 'Pixel Perfect' - i.e. each pixel on the screen is exactly showing the intended pixel.
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... I have read about 17 pages of this thread ...
A quick tip for all newcomers to this topic, and for "oldcomers" who want to re-read it ...
Click on the "print" button at the top or bottom right of the topic. This won't actually print it but will display the whole topic on one page (in a printable format). You won't see any images, but there aren't that many on this topic so that shouldn't be a problem.
http://www.rootschat.com/help/faqs.php#long_topics
regards,
Bob
Phew thanks - the notification emails haven't been able to keep up and it was taking an age to catch up.
Excellent to know that. Is this Print button a new feature, or have I been asleep for seven years?
JULIAN
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... I have read about 17 pages of this thread ...
A quick tip for all newcomers to this topic, and for "oldcomers" who want to re-read it ...
Click on the "print" button at the top or bottom right of the topic. This won't actually print it but will display the whole topic on one page (in a printable format). You won't see any images, but there aren't that many on this topic so that shouldn't be a problem.
http://www.rootschat.com/help/faqs.php#long_topics
regards,
Bob
Phew thanks - the notification emails haven't been able to keep up and it was taking an age to catch up.
Excellent to know that. Is this Print button a new feature, or have I been asleep for seven years?
JULIAN
I'm pretty sure it's always been there.
You can also try scrolling to the very bottom of the screen and click on WAP2 and see what you get then 8)
That's a version for mobiles with no graphics capabilities.
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Yes, print has always been there. It's very useful if you've asked for info on a person or family and get lots of responses. You can look at them all in print much more easily and even print all the replies if you really want to or what I do is Copy and Paste everything to a Word document and delete any duplicate or unnecessary info and then work through what is left.
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Trystan - thanks for changing the borders such that they now blend in better with the actual messageboard. I've seen some of the other "tweaks" and appreciate the continued effort involved. I hope there will be more when you've had chance to take a break, recover & review the general concerns. If we weren't bothered about RootsChat we wouldn't be here to express the concerns, so thanks for creating it in the first place!
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Re Pels's screen resolution. I checked both my laptop and my desk top and they are both on the max setting (1680x1050 and 1600 x 900 pix - pointer on extreme right (XP) or top (Win7) of the slider). I think tomkin told me to do this many moons ago when I last changed my monitor. When Pels did this, all the icons and text went very small, except for Rootshat.
(It also works find on my tiny tablet :) )
brevitas
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We have been working for many months in the background to bring you an improved service, look and feel to your RootsChat.
In order to be able to cope with the ever growing number of members, we have undertaken a massive revamp of the nuts and bolts behind what makes RootsChat what it is. We hope that these changes will make your time on RootsChat run without a hitch!
As you can imagine, with any mayor upgrade, there may be some issues which we have not anticipated or been able to test as much as we would like prior to the re-launch.
The RootsChat Team
I'm afraid I'm back with more comments - sorry for that - but when I enter the site I am reminded again of what spoils the visit for me.
I have pulled up part of your original post Trystan as an aide memoire to me.
Re: Service. Lifting the bonnet and polishing and upgrading nuts and bolts - Brilliant, it allows the wheels to turn faster and the hope that the hamster doesn't have to work too hard.
View: The brown font used in unread thread titles I still find less prominent than the poster's name, and therefore I find my eyed drawn away from the title, resulting in it taking longer to scan the page for items of particular interest.
I know that you are receiving many compliments on the new design, and truly I appreciate all the time that you and Sarah spend in bringing such a community to me. It's just that on a personal level this brown font does not gel.
As an example, I have tried this - posted earlier - in differing colours and find that the clarity is not always apparent; (Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe).
Is this choice of colour down to you and Sarah, and changeable? Or, seeing the name of a web designer at the bottom of the page, have they offered the package 'as is'? I have visited that particular design web-site and find that they do tend to favour brown in some of their examples.
I really don't want to add to any demoralisation after all you have done, nor do I want to lose any friends over my views, but if asked I will answer.
ps. Have spellings of colour, favour etc always been underlined as incorrect, wanting me to change to the Americanised spellings?
pps: I also agree with this from mshrmh, just seen in red post. " If we weren't bothered about RootsChat we wouldn't be here to express the concerns, so thanks for creating it in the first place!"
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You can always ask a moderator to correct the worst mistakes. Unfortunately too many people were using the edit facility to change the information in their posts after further information had been received. This meant that some of the following replies suddenly made no sense.
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Now I know why sometimes replys to number of posts made no sense. There were occasions I thought it was me ;D
Jean
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I have to confess I haven't had a nosey around any of the boards until today, thus got no further than reading this thread and my usual daily visit to the home page to see if I can assist with any of the queries.
Now that the home page isn't such a jangling shock to the system (translate that as; grey brain cells had to wake up) :D I've now ventured into the site and I feel guilty in asking you to reconsider the colour combination of red text on pink background in the help sections as this is one of the colour combinations I have problems deciphering, especially focusing on the subject text when there's half a page of it (is this the brown that others have mentioned?). Shades of Red is one of the colour combinations which experts in eyesight acknowledge is problematic. I've surfed to see if I could find a helpful optical website and find that one colour combination (green) which I find easy to read is one of the colours millions of others have difficulty with and I see that the colour red can look brown to others, which explains why I got confused when chatters were mentioning the red text as "brown text"
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the colour combination of red text on pink background in the help sections
Can you give a link to an example please. I will be working on updating the help pages in the next couple of weeks, so it would be handy to see an example :)
thanks,
Bob
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I think it would be this page, with the subject/started by queries
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,46.0.html
although- looking again, that's just the stickies I think. Further down the font colour changes to brown on blue.
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Yes, that's right
- locked = blue
- sticky = pink
- locked and sticky = darker pink
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could you perhaps change titles in unread list to blue and who it is by in red or black
blue or black is much easier to read especially if you wear glasses :-*
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ps. Have spellings of colour, favour etc always been underlined as incorrect, wanting me to change to the Americanised spellings?
Do you use Vista and/or Mozilla as I get that now on all websites when I want to type something, even though everything on my laptop is set up for English (UK) and not English (USA)
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could you perhaps change titles in unread list to blue and who it is by in red or black
blue or black is much easier to read especially if you wear glasses :-*
Applies to me too and I don't wear glasses to read the computer screen.
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Thanks for responding Bob ... and silvery.
Sorry about not putting the link - it's the red on pink stickies on the page which I find a problem which is probably due to old age, but it's come to me that we once had a young employee who had dyslexia and he definitely wouldn't be able to read the text on that background. I once tried to read up on his condition & found it's just a heading for all sorts of problems - some of which can be resolved by reading text through coloured paper (like coloured cellophane see-through sweet wrappers). He once explained to me that the text would soon go blurry and "jump about".
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ps. Have spellings of colour, favour etc always been underlined as incorrect, wanting me to change to the Americanised spellings?
Do you use Vista and/or Mozilla as I get that now on all websites when I want to type something, even though everything on my laptop is set up for English (UK) and not English (USA)
Just tested colour & the spell check hasn't picked it up. I use XP & Mozilla Firefox. I've found another setting under Firefox>Tools>Options>Content>Languages that I have set to "English/United Kingdom [en-gb]". I also have as an add on/extension the British English Dictionary. Perhaps one or both of these make the difference?
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Just visited today after a quite a few months absence because I received a personal message and I thought I had gone to the wrong site! I couldn't make head nor tail of it and it took me a few minutes to realise I was on Rootschat and you had redesigned it.
So, sorry, I know you worked hard on this and have our best interests at heart, but just because something is new and redesigned does not necessarily make it better (just look at 60's tower blocks as an example of that), so needless to say I'm finding it difficult to like this revamp for lots of reasons.
The problems for me are:
As well as not liking the sparse/minimalist look of the new design, which to me looks unfriendly, the grey background on everything is miserable compared to the cheery cream and green of the previous design.
I'm finding the type of font on small lettering to be flimsy - i.e. has no weight, so is not clear to read and the font is so minuscule you have to blow the page up to have a chance of reading it, which means you need to have a large screen so you can see the whole page blown up, otherwise, for those with smaller screens it is necessary to scroll left and right to read the whole width of the page which will put a lot of people off.
Sorry to go on but...the reddish brown font on dull pastel colours is not easy to read - particularly where it is used as italics, and particularly on the pink background. Then there are the buttons that have been moved to new places, taking ages to find - and I think some are finding them very hard to find indeed.
I'm wondering if it was necessary to do such a radical redesign if all you were wanting to do was speed up the site and make it accessible to more people.
So, the redesign gets a poor score of 2 out of 10 for ease of use from me.
I know you can't please all the people all the time, but it's made me very grumpy. >:(
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I've found another setting under Firefox>Tools>Options>Content>Languages that I have set to "English/United Kingdom [en-gb]".
I wonder if it was a Mozilla update that changed the settings, I always had it set to English (UK) the new setting is English en. I've re-set it twice now, first time I highlighted and clicked OK, but when I went back to it, it was back on English US, so I moved the English en up to the top of the list (of 2) and clicked OK, checked again and it was back to English US, so I removed English US from the list, re-checked and guess what it was back again. So now I've removed both English en and English US from the list. Then I re-opened Content Languages and added English GB to the list of languages I wanted (I didn't add any others). That'll show the computer who's the boss. :D :D
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I don't know whether this has already been brought up as I have not been able to read the whole thread.
The centre of the page is far too bright!!! My eyes feel as if they are being 'drawn' and it has given me a headache! There are at least 2 other people on the YTG who are having exactly the same problem.
I have spent the last 40+ years with eye problems - including having 6 operations - and if nothing can be done to change the bright screen, then I shall have to severely curtail my visits to what is/was a wonderful site.
PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!
snaptoo
I have found no specific response to my original post, but I think that the situation has improved! I never had a problem with the size or colour of the font, that I was aware of, it was just the fact that the posts were far too bright!
Hopefully I will now be able to continue to enjoy this site, but watch this space 8) :-\ :-\
Happy Christmas to you all
snaptoo
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You can adjust the screen brightness in Control Panel - Hardware and Sound- Power Options.
Stan
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Thanks mshrmh and Lizzie, I just checked my options on Firefox and find that it has indeed reverted to English US.
Have now re-set it to the language I want.
Perhaps I should take a leaf out of your book Lizzie and make sure it realises that I crack the whip. ;D
It's just told me that realise has a Z. I shall have to crack the whip a bit harder. ;)
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It's just told me that realise has a Z. I shall have to crack the whip a bit harder
You may have to do what I did, remove any languages that are showing and then choose English UK only.
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I am really thankful that Trystan and Sarah (mods included) keep such a site going (especially as it is free), but I also find the new brown subject headings rather difficult to see.
I have no problem with my sight (do need glasses for reading though :) ) but do find, that the sub-title of a post is more prominent than before.
Thank you again for a great site.
Merry Christmas to one and all and a healthy and prosperous New Year.
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I logged on to the new site first time and to be honest I hated it
Then I came back and it was OK
And then today, I can’t remember what the old site looked like and no longer notice the new design, although on the whole I think it looks fresh and up-to-date. There are things I don’t like, but they are basically the same things I always didn’t like about Rootschat, which never stopped me using it since it is an interesting community which I enjoy dipping in to.
It must be gutting to Trystan and others to read some of the negative posts stating people won’t be back based on initial impressions, as I know this will have taken a lot of work. I can only encourage people to give it time to get used to it, and remember that the main part of Rootschat – the community – is still the same!
Joyce
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I'm sorry, but I don't have the best eyesight in the world and I just find it incredibly difficult to read.
Yesterday, when one of the boards I use was still in "old style", I was able to compare the two, and the list of topics was in blue on yellow, clear and vibrant. (It was also very neat - the new look sprawls, with many fewer topics on a page without scrolling.) Everything in the new board seems to be "dull" on "dull" and my poor old eyes are working so hard to decipher the words I'm struggling to take on the meaning of a post.
I know there's been a huge amount of work done, and I hate criticising, but it's such a struggle I thought I needed to say something.
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You can adjust the screen brightness in Control Panel - Hardware and Sound- Power Options.
Stan
Hi Stan
Sorry but I do not want to change the overall brightness of my screen It is only this site that I have had a problem with. I THINK that something has been done about it, so hopefully I shall be ok now!
snaptoo
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I just don't understand why this link http://www.rootschat.com/ takes one to the welcome page which shows the subjects in blue, and yet this one http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=unread has to have the brown.
I think blue or black is easier to read by the majority, whereas reddish/brown seems to be causing difficulty for some.
Think of those images where a picture is hidden in a whole load of dots. A lot of people can never find the picture as the red and green used are not easily distinguishable to many.
I know - am I nit-picking again? :-\
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Nothing to do with my previous posts............
I have unsubscribed to notifications of replies to this topic twice and I am still being notified!
snaptoo
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:) yep i like it :D
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Trystan -
Please do not see the negative comments on this thread as a personal attack on your abilities - you spent many weeks doing this and everyone appreciates that dedication to RC, but any designer, when putting their designs before an audience gets praise and flack. Few are genius enough to cover all the bases first time out of the gate.
From reading the comments it seems that people are having problems with the font sizes/amount of different fonts and the colours of fonts on differing backgrounds. I'm sure that can easily be addressed.
I have another concern: the navigation panel for countries/counties etc. is located at the bottom of the page (in black) - I thought it was some unimportant afterthought at first glance when in fact it is one of the most important menus on the site for finding your way around. Something that important should be at the top of the page and prominent, not tucked away like this.
I do worry that people who come on the site are being advised to tinker with their computer resolution. They did not need to do that on the previous design so why is it a problem with this design?
I expect RootsChat to iron out the problems in the coming weeks and look forward to visiting in the future as it is the friendliest most helpful place for finding the ancestors and I'm grateful there are people dedicated enough to run this place.
Take heart Trystan! There is the Shock of the New and there is the snagging list - and they are two very different things. ;)
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Hi Trystan and all the backroom guys/girls is there a mobile version of the "New" format, as I still have " Contact Support" hanging over this post, and the only apparent avenue into unread threads is firstly to go into my PM's and then I can see replies to your posts etc, a lot easier than on day one of new format, as worked out how to negotiate, but just wondered?
Keyboard86
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Keyboard86,
What mobile device are you using? The mobile should be autodetected.
Trystan
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Keyboard86,
What mobile device are you using? The mobile should be autodetected.
Trystan
Hi Trystan Samsung Galaxy 3, if that helps?
Keyboard86
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Have you seen the mobile version of this site on that phone at all?
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Have you seen the mobile version of this site on that phone at all?
No, but give me link it will be my next port of call!
Keyboard86
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OK - I've sent you the link by PM.
Trystan
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Sorry if I've missed something here - I've been searching for a Rootschat app in the i-tunes store, but nothing's coming up? I've got an i-phone 4.
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We haven't brought out an App yet. ;)
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Gee what a difference on the I pad.
I almost like it again, yet to explore.
Mike
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Whats the red 'contact support' button for ? Is it a sort of PM to Trystan or the mods ??
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It's a temporary measure for a short period after the upgrade, just in case people have trouble getting on here.
It sends a message that can be picked up by all of us that keep this site going. :)
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Snaptoo will send you a pm about your notifications - Sarah :)
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And look at this!! Nearly 500 posts and 50 pages on this thread and I can't tell without looking at the figures. It's just as responsive and slick as it was when Trystan first posted nearly two days ago. I thank that deserves a big thumbs up for the update. 8) 8) 8) 8)
I think we should all back off for a while and let these two generous and kind people who run this site for nothing get some well earned sleep.
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Thanks Trystan ..... have a cyber hob-nob !! :-*
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Update:
I've got used to it.
And I like it.
Thank you Trystan and all the team.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Sorry if I've missed something here - I've been searching for a Rootschat app in the i-tunes store, but nothing's coming up? I've got an i-phone 4.
If you use safari on the iphone the site will automatically put you on to the mobile version - just as slick as the main version and with the same posts etc. as in this screenshot
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Sorry if I've missed something here - I've been searching for a Rootschat app in the i-tunes store, but nothing's coming up? I've got an i-phone 4.
If you use safari on the iphone the site will automatically put you on to the mobile version - just as slick as the main version and with the same posts etc. as in this screenshot
Thank you - I've used the mobile version before, just got the (wrong) impression there was an app also.
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If the opportunity to modify your own post is only there for a short time, how do you go back and change the header of the first post to say it is Completed, so the Mods can move it to the Completed forum.
Has anyone else thought of this.
Just wondering.
Like the other changes though.
Ian C
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If the opportunity to modify your own post is only there for a short time, how do you go back and change the header of the first post to say it is Completed, so the Mods can move it to the Completed forum.
Has anyone else thought of this.
Just wondering.
Like the other changes though.
Ian C
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,628501.0.html
brevitas :)
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Looking through these posts, it does seem as if some of those who were very anti at first are slowly coming round to the new layout now that they have given themselves time to get used to it and have played around with it. ;D ;D ;D
We haven't brought out an App yet.
Does that mean there is one on the way? That would be great.
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We haven't brought out an App yet.
Does that mean there is one on the way? That would be great.
Give Trystan a chance to get the biscuit supplies back up to full capacity ;) ;D
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so with all this wonderful technonlogy going on , when I catch a train or walk down the street and I see the craze of finger dancing on small plastic boxes I will now know a percentage of thems theres humans will be rootschatting away......
So welcome to the age of "Coffee Jetset Genealogists"
Merry Christmas Trystan and Sarah ,, Now Sarah drag that man away from the keyboard and take him home for a well earned rest.....
:)
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Whats the red 'contact support' button for ? Is it a sort of PM to Trystan or the mods ??
Where is it? I saw it when the site first changed, but haven't seen it since. Perhaps they don't want me to contact support. By the way I'm using Quick Reply for a change and it states I can still use smileys, but I can't see them. Maybe I should learn the codes for them all?
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Thanks mshrmh and Lizzie, I just checked my options on Firefox and find that it has indeed reverted to English US.
Have now re-set it to the language I want.
Perhaps I should take a leaf out of your book Lizzie and make sure it realises that I crack the whip. ;D
It's just told me that realise has a Z. I shall have to crack the whip a bit harder. ;)
Ahh, just install Google Chrome - it has a spelling checker that you can set to UK English and it stays there :) Chrome also has this great facility where you highlight a word or words, then right-click, and you have the option to Google search the highlighted words.
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Rootschat works very well on my iphone! No problems at all. I have now put a link directly to rootschat on my phone 'desktop' ( or whatever it is).
The TOP button to take you to the top of the page is a little difficult to see, but I really like how the site works on my phone. Not that I am too keen on using my phone for such things but sometimes you just have to get your rootschat fix when you're out and about . ;D
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Can I ask how you got to the Mobile site. There used to be a button in the top-right corner but I can no longer find it.
Trystan removed it.
The software will recognise what type of computer is being used.
Hello Berlin-Bob,
Thanks for the reply.
So all I needed to do was switch to Firefox and install User Agent Switcher. My desktop now spoofs an iPhone and hey presto I'm back to the mobile layout. Big thanks :-)
It really makes me smile to myself at how we are all individuals with different tastes. To me the Mobile site is soothing Mozart whereas the main site is a rave party in an Ibiza nightclub. Each has their place but I know where I'd rather be.
Having said that, I'm really impressed with the number of rootschatters happily out raving :-)
Thanks again
Beg
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Just discovered another good thing - we dont get locked out at midnight. ;D ;D ;D
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My problem in saving images, ......
I find I have to click on downlod image now, as 'Save as' no longer works for me here & it takes much longer to get photos to restore.
This doesn't happen in other sites so it must be something to do with the change,
Is there a fix for this ?
Thanks, Yvonne :)
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I mus confess I always went via the 'save as' route too Yvonne - and I can't figure that one out yet either ;)
Wiggy :)
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I've been doing lots of exploring and I am still loving the new rootschat look.
I even ventured into the chat room which used to be a very scary riot of colour - but it all looked cool and calm. I didn't stay long enough to post anything - I'm not that brave yet.
Just out of curiosity - and I am sure there is a very simple explanation... I have been wondering ...What are the green cog circle things on the main forum board page next to the board titles.
Most of them are brown and say NEW - but some are green and say NEW too.
Milly
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My problem in saving images, ......
I find I have to click on downlod image now, as 'Save as' no longer works for me here & it takes much longer to get photos to restore.
This doesn't happen in other sites so it must be something to do with the change,
Is there a fix for this ?
Thanks, Yvonne :)
Do you mean you used to right click and save as? Whenever I did that, I got a low-res image. Clicking on the download link I always got the full-res version - was this the case with you?
Having said all that, I can still control-click to save as (I'm on a Mac) so I'm not sure why it's not working for you (if I understand correctly what it is that you're trying to do)
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Must try that Prue - I am on a Mac too and haven't been able to do the save as trick yet - control clikc - yep going to try that now!!
Wiggy
p.s. that doesn't work for me - (using Firefox - could that be the difference?)
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I really don't like those stars in the dark circles - way, way too aggressive and dominant. I don't think much of the narrow font, either. And those interpolated ads are horrible. But I guess I'll get used to the changes.
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Still find new look awful :'(
I was told to increase screen size to read
Solves nothing, just means everything crazy
Bye
Althea
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Must try that Prue - I am on a Mac too and haven't been able to do the save as trick yet - control clikc - yep going to try that now!!
Wiggy
p.s. that doesn't work for me - (using Firefox - could that be the difference?)
Don't think so, because I'm on Firefox too. Maybe it's because I'm a moderator, but I don't think that can be it, can it?
Just tried on a new topic. Downloaded from the link and got a full-sized image at 300dpi. When I did a control-click and saved-as, I got a 700pixel-wide 72dpi image.
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My problem in saving images, ......
I find I have to click on downlod image now, as 'Save as' no longer works for me here & it takes much longer to get photos to restore.
This doesn't happen in other sites so it must be something to do with the change,
Is there a fix for this ?
Thanks, Yvonne :)
Do you mean you used to right click and save as? Whenever I did that, I got a low-res image. Clicking on the download link I always got the full-res version - was this the case with you?
Having said all that, I can still control-click to save as (I'm on a Mac) so I'm not sure why it's not working for you (if I understand correctly what it is that you're trying to do)
Hi Prue, :)
Yes that's what I meant,
I didn't realise that caused the low resolution image though, but I did notice one of my recent restores was a lower resolution than the original when I used 'Save Target as' instead of 'Save as'.
Then I found it was just this site.
This is what I posted in the Technical thread ......
(When I right click on an image & choose 'Save as' I get a box saying ......
'the system cannot find the file specified'
then when I click on help this comes up ....
Cannot find C:\WINDOWS\system32\mshtml.help file. Do you want to try to find this file yourself ?
then says I need to reinstal it, would this be on the Windows XP backup disc ?
Is it just a coincidence this happened straight after the upgrade ?
I've been using 'save target as' at present, but photo size seems to reduce kbs.)
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I can't open Rootschat in Internet Explorer any more. It can't be my computer because every other Web Site I visit opens in my Internet Explorer as always. But RootsChat won't. I did a Google search for Roots Chat Forum and get a number of hits, but none of them open in Internet Explorer.
I'm doing this in Fire Fox because Roots Chat works in Fire Fox, but try as I might I can't get it to open in IE. :(
HELP!!!!
Red
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I use internet explorer and am not having any problems ...
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I use IE and have no trouble accessing it either.
However, on another matter, re the PRINT facility...
Well, I was going to insert a 'quote' from a previous post but it won't let me go back that far.
Answer 423 on page 43.
When I click on PRINT it comes up as a black and white document but chases everything else away, so when I close the PRINT bit I'm out of RootsChat and have to go to favourites or an email message to get back in. This didn't happen previously. Has anyone else noticed it?
??? ??? ???
PS It also stops one from accessing the particular topic while looking at the print version ??? ???
Dawn M
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Do you just click on "print" or do you open it in another window/tab ?
The latter is better, because then I can read long topics in the "print" tab, and also see the images and reply numbers in the other tab.
Bob
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Hi Bob
Until now, I would just open it in the tab I was using, and be able to see the print version and the screen version at the same time, then close down the print version when I'd finished with it, and continue on with my reply or whatever. But the new version does not apparently allow this, and flips me out.
I solved it today by opening two tabs with the same topic, i.e. this one, to check if the same thing still happened, which it did. When I closed the print page I had only one tab open!
A bit odd, if we have to have something open twice so we don't lose our place ???
Thanks
Dawn M
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I nearly always have several tabs open, so I have never noticed that.
My normal working method is: "new replies" in one tab, and then Ctrl-Click to open anything I want to see in a new tab (firefox) I think with Opera that is Shift-Ckick and IE always opens a new window.
Bob
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My problem in saving images, ......
I find I have to click on downlod image now, as 'Save as' no longer works for me here & it takes much longer to get photos to restore.
This doesn't happen in other sites so it must be something to do with the change,
Is there a fix for this ?
Thanks, Yvonne :)
Do you mean you used to right click and save as? Whenever I did that, I got a low-res image. Clicking on the download link I always got the full-res version - was this the case with you?
Having said all that, I can still control-click to save as (I'm on a Mac) so I'm not sure why it's not working for you (if I understand correctly what it is that you're trying to do)
Hi Prue, :)
Yes that's what I meant,
I didn't realise that caused the low resolution image though, but I did notice one of my recent restores was a lower resolution than the original when I used 'Save Target as' instead of 'Save as'.
Then I found it was just this site.
This is what I posted in the Technical thread ......
(When I right click on an image & choose 'Save as' I get a box saying ......
'the system cannot find the file specified'
then when I click on help this comes up ....
Cannot find C:\WINDOWS\system32\mshtml.help file. Do you want to try to find this file yourself ?
then says I need to reinstal it, would this be on the Windows XP backup disc ?
Is it just a coincidence this happened straight after the upgrade ?
I've been using 'save target as' at present, but photo size seems to reduce kbs.)
Hi Prue, :)
Just tried a 'Save as' & it worked !
no diminished kb size either, all is working again, :D
Thanks again, especially if one of Rootschat magicians waved their wand, ;D
Yvonne
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Can I just ask a question?
Under modify profile you can change the number of posts you see on a page, the default is 10. Somehow I'd changed mine to 25, so whilst others were seeing page 18 on the YTG page, I was seeing 7. This doesn't really matter until page 20 is reached, as we'll all be there at different times. ;D Or do we stop looking at pages before we lock a topic and lock it after 200 posts?
Jan
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Yes ! we had this discussion before, when the default size was changed from 20 to 10 posts/page.
Carry on locking TOT topics at 200 replies please :)
thanks,
Bob
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Thanks Bob.
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As I noted before, the 10 posts/per page default size was chosen after receiving advice that this was optimal for performance (page loading).
Bob
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I've changed mine back to 10, I didn't realise I'd altered it. It must have been when I was fiddling about the other day. ;)
The more I use the new layout, the more I like it.
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This is the error message I get. Notice the URL at the top and the "done" on the bottom Left hand corner. I might add this is only happening with Roots Chat Forum in Internet Explorer, every other favourites I click on opens normally. And Roots Chat Forum open normally for me in Fire Fox.
I've tried everything, deleted temp files, cookies & cache, restored to a previous time, re-booted, ....... this one has me stumped!!!!
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/redmr2red/error_zps0c0ec50e.jpg)
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Notice the URL at the top
You say this is from your favourites. Does this mean the URL in your favourites is exactly that which we see here, or has something been added by the browser ?
My suggestion is to edit the address bar to remove the PHPSESSID.... up to and including the & and try again. If that works, store the new URL in your favourites.
i.e.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?board=165,0
Bob
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I've calmed down now I can find my way around again and am getting used to the new look :)
The only problem is the colour of topic titles when you click on unread - I find it difficult to focus on and interesting topics are now hard work to find, it actually hurts my eyes and makes me feel slightly sick. Interestingly where the pinky-red colour is against a slightly darker background when it is a locked topic it's fine. I notice others have mentioned this problem.
Jan ;)
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Redmr2red - your error of a blank screen.
The error message points to the mobile site, so I'm guessing it was after trying the mobile version.
Can you please paste this link into that browser and let us know what happens:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?thememode=full
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WOW I am up and at them again, thanks to all your help Bob and Trystan and co.
I didnt want to delete all my cookies, so ended up doing a system restore, and that seems to have sorted it. Whew, lets hope it now stays OK. One thing I wont be doing is pressing mobile again.
;)
xin
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The feel of the site hasnt changed but the fonts are horrible. Looks great on mobile however the PC fonts come up way to large. I wont complain about the layout though as this will take time to get used to it. I guess after 9 years of no change (including a short period where Sarah kicked me off here :p) it was inevitable that I wouldnt be 100 per cent happy. One question though as the site uses cookies where is the legal warning that is now required to fit in with EU law?
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Sorry,
Call me what-ever you like - no offence intended - BUT
this 'NEW' web-site lay-out is really, really confusing !!
Call it 'my advancing years' - ( looking forward to my OAPension at the end of the year ... )
but you have 'FIXED' what wasn't BROKEN !!!!!
The original format was OK - simple to use - so WHY CHANGE IT ????
Totally confused !!!! ( and this is BEFORE opening the bottle of Bells !!! )
Is this about keeping Web-site designers usefully employed ???????
Will try to get past Christmas with that bottle of Bells and a bottle of Coke
and try again to understand it in the New Year - hopefully ???
Sorry, I had to say this.....
Merry Christmas and a peaceful New Year to you all
Mick
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Sarah, I have replied to your PM, thank you :)
:-[Apologies for my earlier rant :-[ I am now certain that the posts are less bright than they were! They must be as I did not have a headache or the 'drawing' eyes yesterday! 8) So I must say thank you for putting that right so promptly :D :D
I am sure that, given time, I WILL get used to the new format. (I am getting there!) So I must see the error of my ways and say a big THANK YOU to Sarah and Trystan for all their hard work, and for everything that they do and have done in the past, to keep such a great forum and all its world wide family happy!
HAPPY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!
snaptoo
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"The feel of the site hasnt changed"
I think it has changed a lot. It is ugly and hard to read but I'll live with it.
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just logged in to the new lay out not to impressed with it hard to find way around think it will put a lot of people off have you noticed any differance in the ammount of post and request for help its all become a bit complicated to use not so easy to navigate round the site
harrywrag
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Yes, me too, must say I preferred the old site, but there again I'm taurean and dont like change!!! Cant see me using it as much, remains to be seen.
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I don't think its really harder to find your way around once you get used to where things are now, it's just that it looks so totally different.
I notice a lot of people are commenting that it's hard to read, that can't be a coincidence. I wonder if any thought was given to the fact that a lot of users are "older" , as vision does change as you age. The brown and reddish pink colours seem pretty unusual for a website, and I wonder if that's because of the readability issues. I don't think I've come across one from a major company or organisation that uses them.
Any vision experts around? I hope Rootschat hasn't overlooked accessibility issues.
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One question though as the site uses cookies where is the legal warning that is now required to fit in with EU law?
The EU cookie directive consent is there - but if you clicked it in the past you won't see it again.
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Wow, shocked is not the word, I thought I had typed in the wrong website address !! Have a lot more looking and "playing" to do before I come to a decision on whether it is an improvement or not.
However, I'd like to say thank you to Trystan and Sarah for their continuing hardwork regarding the site and, whatever, my final thoughts on the layout it won't stop me coming here to follow other people's stories and ask for help and opinions.
GfL :)
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I don't think its really harder to find your way around once you get used to where things are now, it's just that it looks so totally different.
I notice a lot of people are commenting that it's hard to read, that can't be a coincidence. I wonder if any thought was given to the fact that a lot of users are "older" , as vision does change as you age. The brown and reddish pink colours seem pretty unusual for a website, and I wonder if that's because of the readability issues. I don't think I've come across one from a major company or organisation that uses them.
Any vision experts around? I hope Rootschat hasn't overlooked accessibility issues.
The colors don't bother me but the layout is cluttered and it is less easy to quickly scan down the list of new posts.
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have you noticed any differance in the ammount of post and request for help its all become a bit complicated to use not so easy to navigate round the site
Harrywrag,
Yes, we have noticed a very encouraging difference.
We are looking at various figures and there are less people leaving as soon as they land on the site (it's called 'bounce rate'), the number of 'pages per person' looks at has doubled. The amount of time on site has gone up considerably, and the number of topics and replies is in the top-five for this month (in other words we had five individual days in the last month with more topics/replies - so we've better than most of the days this month). We've also seen an increase in people using mobile devices (mobiles/tablets).
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We are being watched ::) :-\
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:o
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However, I'd like to say thank you to Trystan and Sarah for their continuing hardwork regarding the site and, whatever, my final thoughts on the layout it won't stop me coming here to follow other people's stories and ask for help and opinions.
Well said GfL!
I was a bit 'Yikes!' when I first logged in. I had a good play and I am liking. Can't do the phone thing as not been let loose with one of those new fangled phones but a great bonus for those who do. ;)
To those who are in the 'don't like/unsure' camp - give it a fair try! Click on things, have a play.
Change can be painful but it's not a bad thing especially when you get a better performing site which still does all the things it did before but better and all for free!
Ann :)
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I have been studying TV ads and note that text is nearly always set on a contrasting background.
I find the pastel shades difficult read
I have great admiration for Tystan and Sarah and thank them for undertaking such a monumental task.
Mike
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The colors don't bother me but the layout is cluttered and it is less easy to quickly scan down the list of new posts.
I think it is because of the colours that it is less easy to scan down - in my case so much so that I haven't posted anywhere but on this thread since the change. I live in hope that my eyes/brain will adjust soon as I'm really missing looking forward to coming here and quickly finding something interesting to become absorbed in :'(
Jan ;)
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The colors don't bother me but the layout is cluttered and it is less easy to quickly scan down the list of new posts.
I think it is because of the colours that it is less easy to scan down - in my case so much so that I haven't posted anywhere but on this thread since the change. I live in hope that my eyes/brain will adjust soon as I'm really missing looking forward to coming here and quickly finding something interesting to become absorbed in :'(
Jan ;)
I think it's because the name of the board is in small, italic letters whereas the name of the poster is in bold type. To me, the name of the poster is much less relevant than the name of the board. Also, the words "started by" are entirely unnecessary.
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I am finding my eyes struggle with the pale blue background I get a headache with nausea a bit like a migraine,some say their background is white,but I am seeing pale blue with a white line between posts,typing this is fine as the background is white,Trystan,can anything be done to sort this out,I have had a few PM's from others having the same problem.
I lover everything else it is great,well done team
I have just noticed when a link is posted it is hard to see the blue type against the pale blue :o :o
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I'm struggling with the background colour, too...which appears to be white on my PC. Is there a way I can change the colour? What about the font? Can I change that as well....it's awful....letters look squashed together....
I'll still be here every day to see if I can help anyone though! ;)
Trini.
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Many thanks Tristan, that worked. All fixed now. ;D I have no idea how it happened as I don't own a tablet phone.
Red
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have you noticed any differance in the ammount of post and request for help its all become a bit complicated to use not so easy to navigate round the site
Harrywrag,
Yes, we have noticed a very encouraging difference.
We are looking at various figures and there are less people leaving as soon as they land on the site (it's called 'bounce rate'), the number of 'pages per person' looks at has doubled. The amount of time on site has gone up considerably, and the number of topics and replies is in the top-five for this month (in other words we had five individual days in the last month with more topics/replies - so we've better than most of the days this month). We've also seen an increase in people using mobile devices (mobiles/tablets).
Yes, but Trystan, most of this month has been on the 'old' layout. :) :)
So it's not really an indicator of what people think of this new layout.
Except to see the thousands of looks at this particular post!! All within just a few days.
Hope you have recovered some of your lost sleep :) :) :)
Dawn M
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Just one small plea - please could the 'unread', 'replies', and 'Logout' be more spaced out along the bar ?
On small touch screens it's too easy to hit Logout when you really wanted to see replies.
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Cheers Trystan :)
A few hours into the new look I had a very quick sneak peek and thought eeeeek! then had to leave town for a couple of days without being able to really look about and I understand there's been the odd tweak.
I've now taken the time as a guest to read and absorb 56 pages of this thread and getting myself adjusted to the visual impact and ready to settle in.
A couple of observations I don't recall being commented on, the blue background as well as a padlock on locked threads, easier to notice.
Guests can now see which users are online and their lights showing and also now able to use the search facility, I don't think they were available to guests before although they could see the list of users and guests ... which now has the addition of most online today/ever.
I've often used the previous 'started by' column as a quick search for users when they're not online, especially ones who frequent certain boards, not so easy to do now the OP's name is under the topic but that's not actually a problem as there are other ways.
Home page is so different with pictures but is probably more welcoming or at least interesting to a newbie :)
So all in all, in my quick flick, it gets a big tick :D
Happy Christmas and another Happy Birthday RootsChat
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;D Now ... I had trouble posting a pic as it said I had to rename it ... but it posted anyway and so now there's two glasses of bubbly smiles ... ;D ;D ;D One each
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Hi
Under the old pm system there was a facility to set the pm system to ignore incoming messages from selected users.
That has now been removed by being amended to "Admins only" or ALL?
Ray
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Just one small plea - please could the 'unread', 'replies', and 'Logout' be more spaced out along the bar ?
On small touch screens it's too easy to hit Logout when you really wanted to see replies.
I'd echo that, Nick. Even on my laptop screen, I nearly logged myself out yesterday by mistake!
Maybe LOGOUT would be better at the end of the line? ???
Dawn M
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I have not been on Roots for a few days and having just logged on and what a surprise. Trystan and his colleagues have been very busy indeed. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Will have to trundle around it for a few days to get to grips with it.
Merry Christmas
Cathy ;D
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Beg,crawl, simper, please, pretty please can you changed the pink/red text. I find it difficult to read.
Mike
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We are aware of a few problems.
The brown (or "red") tall squashed font is not ideal for some.
There are some issues with Windows Explorer 8 users.
File attachments getting compressed.
(There is a bigger list, but that's just for me to see!)
These (amongst other things) are things I will be looking into to try and fix- but this will have to be after the Christmas period now. I've not even wrapped Sarah's presents yet...
In the mean time - hope you all have a wonderful Christmas break!
Trystan
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Trystan,
you've done a fantastic job !!!
Now, go off and enjoy off and enjoy your Christmas :)
all the best,
Bob
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just had to have a moan......really hate the new rootschat revamp !!!! aaaah,,,,thats better ;D ;D ;D ;D
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What has happened to the "unread posts since last visit" option. There is only the "beginners unread posts" I always checked those first it made it easier to see if I could help.
.....and in the Chatroom, what is that green/orange dot in the right hand corner, it keeps changing colour and the time out is annoying because you can't just sit and watch a "hunt" anymore, you have to keep typing to stay logged in. Sometimes it is interesting to just sit and watch a hunt unfold.
There I've also had my moan ;D ;D
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It is at the top left hand corner of this page 'Unread'
"Replies" alongside it are the replies to your posts that you have not read
Rosie :)