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Title: Arthur Henry Cooper (b.02 Sep 1878)
Post by: InfinitelyCurious on Monday 08 April 13 07:44 BST (UK)
Arthur Henry Cooper was a twin - his sister, Barbara Ellen Cooper had a sad life. She and her illegitimate daughter Mary Ann were consigned to Newport Union Workhouse (Monmouthshire) on 29 August 1903. Mary Ann was moved on to Dr.Barnardo's in 1905 but Ellen remained 'institutionalised' locally until her death in 1962.
Arthur, her brother, has been traced in 1901 and 1911 censuses - in 1911 he is still single, a coal miner, living with his mother Mary Ann Cooper at 1 Cwm Houses, Cilfynydd, Pontypridd.
Then the trail goes cold. Can anyone help?
Title: Re: Arthur Henry Cooper (b.02 Sep 1878)
Post by: lizdb on Monday 08 April 13 07:51 BST (UK)
Arthur H Cooper is not an uncommon name, so there are more than one death that fits.
But if he stayed in Wales this might be a possible -

Ap/May/Jun 1935
Cardiff
11a 395
Arthur H Cooper age 57
Title: Re: Arthur Henry Cooper (b.02 Sep 1878)
Post by: suzard on Monday 08 April 13 11:19 BST (UK)
Do you know when mother Mary Ann Cooper died ?
Her death cert would give name of informant - who could be Arthur??? If so it could have his address too - newspaper reports of death may give some information??

Suz
Title: Re: Arthur Henry Cooper (b.02 Sep 1878)
Post by: emmadog on Thursday 18 April 13 20:51 BST (UK)
There is a death on a******** and free bmd for arthur h cooper dated june 1938 Cardiff and the age (57) fits with other dates, could the be the man you are after?
Title: Re: Arthur Henry Cooper (b.02 Sep 1878)
Post by: InfinitelyCurious on Wednesday 19 June 13 19:43 BST (UK)
Thanks for the leads that I will try to follow in the near term.
I should have added that Arthur and Barbara Ellen Cooper had a number of siblings (dates of birth - Mar/Jun = GRO BMD quarters):
William George Cooper (17 Jun 1876)
Frederick Cooper (c.1880)
Mary Elizabeth (or E.M.!) Cooper (Mar. 1885)
Hannah Cooper (Jun 1888)
George Cooper (Mar 1891)
Robert Cooper (Mar 1894)
Isabella (Jane) Cooper (c.1897).

Only clue to Mary Cooper (mother's) death is a probate record indicating 21 Sep 1922 in the Bridgend area.
Thanks for everyone's help.
Title: Re: Arthur Henry Cooper (b.02 Sep 1878)
Post by: iolaus on Sunday 24 December 17 15:02 GMT (UK)
Just wondered if you were still on here - my husband is descended from Arthur's sister Mary Elisabeth Cooper

Title: Re: Arthur Henry Cooper (b.02 Sep 1878)
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 24 December 17 16:04 GMT (UK)
A free search of the 1939 register using that d-o-b finds
Harry A Cooper, 2.9.1878
living with
Janet Cooper, born 1883
in Newport C.B., Monmouthshire

Possible deaths
March 1950 Newport 8c 286
Cooper, Harry Arthur
age 71

and
June 1952 Newport 8c 214
Cooper, Janet
age 68

Could Arthur have switched his names around?
John
Title: Re: Arthur Henry Cooper (b.02 Sep 1878)
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 24 December 17 16:12 GMT (UK)
Maybe not
Birth of a Harry Arthur Cooper, Dec 1878, Mutford
Marriage of a Harry Arthur Cooper, June 1908, Mutford, potentially to Janet Buck

In Newport, Monmouth in 1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7PC-CKY

A coincidence, back to the drawing board!
Title: Re: Arthur Henry Cooper (b.02 Sep 1878)
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 24 December 17 16:16 GMT (UK)
Quote from: lizdb on Monday 08 April 13 07:51 BST (UK)
Ap/May/Jun 1935
Cardiff
11a 395
Arthur H Cooper age 57

New GRO death index confirms middle name was Henry.
Title: Re: Arthur Henry Cooper (b.02 Sep 1878)
Post by: iolaus on Sunday 24 December 17 17:31 GMT (UK)
There's an Arthur Henry Cooper who died in Cardiff Royal Infirmary 9th Jun 1935 (this is from another family member's research not my own so don't have a certificate) aged 57 which she took to be him