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Title: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: suecol on Monday 17 June 13 07:07 BST (UK)
I am looking for the descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 in High Wycombe, Bucks. He emigrated to Canada in 1912 and married Emily Irene McPHERSON in Ontario Canada on 6 Apr 1916. I have no names of any children and he could have remarried an Olive QUEMBY after his first wife died in 1926. Any information on this family would be much appreciated
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: [Ray] on Monday 17 June 13 07:22 BST (UK)
Hi Sue

Is this him?

Birth Mar 1884 Wycombe 3a 620 Edward George Hazell

Edward Hazell (abt 1883) Quebec, Canada 29 Sep 1911  Liverpool, England Quebec Empress of Ireland

What are the details from the marriage certificate(s)?

Are you trying to get him to fit your Hazell connections?
(Which are?)

Ray
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: [Ray] on Monday 17 June 13 07:34 BST (UK)
Hi Sue

Possble 1891 census in Hazlemere? (apt)

RG12 1139 56 page55
George Hazell Head Bricklayer 30 Wycombe
Annie Hazell Wife 27 Hughenden
Edward Hazell Son 7 Wycombe
Kate Hazell Dau 5 Hughenden
Charles Hazell Son 4 Hughenden
Walter Hazell Son 2 Wycombe
Eva    Hazell Dau 6mo Wycombe

Ray
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: Jacquie in Canada on Monday 17 June 13 07:35 BST (UK)
Births from less than 100 years ago are protected by Ontario's privacy laws. Your best bet for finding out whether they had any children may be to wait for the release of the 1921 Canada census which will hopefully be happening shortly.

Jacquie
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: [Ray] on Monday 17 June 13 07:42 BST (UK)
Hi Jacquie

What about the marriage cert? Does that ruling apply?

Ray
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: suecol on Monday 17 June 13 08:25 BST (UK)
Hi Ray - yes this is my man. His father George HAZELL was in fact married 3 times and I believe that Edward was the son of his first wife Rose Amelia CRUMP but on his marriage certificate (available on Ancestry) Edward has given his mother's name as Ellen ALDRIDGE (his father's third wife)! But all the dates tally and his date of emigration fits with a note on his UK military service record to say that he had been given permission to reside in Canada on 13 Apr 1912. (He had visited Canada several times previously.)

I should like to make contact with any living descendants of this family - looks as though I will have to wait for the release of the 1921 Canadian census to find out the names of any children.

I am not related to this family but am doing a wide ranging search into HAZELL families from South Bucks, England with the aim of trying to connect them to one another and to the branch from which my husband is descended. Many thanks for all your help so far, Sue
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 17 June 13 08:52 BST (UK)
Hi Sue,

Just incase you haven't come across them - Attestation Papers - Edward George Hazell lived at Brock Street, Whitby, Ontario Canada.
Wife Mrs Emily Irene Hazell.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0uob/

Sandra
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 17 June 13 08:58 BST (UK)
Anc tree says Edward and Irene had 2 daughters and a son.
One daughter was :-  Elizabeth Jane Hazell - Birth 8 Oct 1926 in Huntsville, Ontatio  and died 27 Mar 1973 in  Hotel Dieu Hospital, Windsor. Burial :- Union Cemetery, Oshawa, Ontario.
A note says :- Legal Adoption by Herb and Lila Pringle. No further details.
Edward seems to have also had 2 daughter with Olive Quemby.

Sandra
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 17 June 13 09:02 BST (UK)
Edward George Hazell Born 1883 High Wycombe and aged 45 years 10 months crossed the border into the USA at  Detroit, Michigan 3 Oct 1929 to seek work. in Middletown Ohio. His brother-in-law was Herb Pringle of Box 116, Whitby, Ontario, Canada. Edward had arrived Halifax Nova Scotia on the Austonia 1911. Occupation:- Mason.

Sandra
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 17 June 13 09:10 BST (UK)
Edward had previously been in the USA 1915 - Edward Hazell born 1883 England crossed the border Canada to USA, arriving Detroit, Michigan 24 Oct 1915. Bricklayer from Whitby. Looks like a manifest marking 505 - 533 Cleveland Ohio - File H 40 - 5 10-39 WFN CCC (Usually markings like this indicate a naturalization but it is a funny reference )

Sandra
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 17 June 13 09:12 BST (UK)
Edward and Olive are buried St Johns Anglican Northumberland Ontario

Edward George Hazell (h/o Olive P. Quemby) St John's Anglican, Port Hope Northumberland Hope LSGS-105

Olive P.  Hazell(Quemby) St John's Anglican, Port Hope Northumberland Hope LSGS-105

http://ocfa.islandnet.com/ocfa-search.php

Sandra
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: suecol on Monday 17 June 13 09:18 BST (UK)
Hi Sandra - many thanks for all of this. I have tried making contact with the owner of the tree on Ancestry - but have not received a reply! What I hadn't noticed until your two posts were side by side was that Edward states that Herb PRINGLE was his brother in law - could this be the same person who adopted his daughter Elizabeth Jane b 1926. This was the same year that his first? wife Emily Irene McPherson died so perhaps her sister (it would have to be her sister to make the brother in law connection wouldn't it?) took the child under her wing and subsequently adopted her? Perhaps I should try looking at the PRINGLE family? Regards, Sue
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: suecol on Monday 17 June 13 09:24 BST (UK)
Sandra is there anyway of finding out anything more about these burials - dates etc and whether there is a headstone etc? Thank you again for your help, Sue
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 17 June 13 09:25 BST (UK)
Edward and Olive Hazell appear on Canada Voters List 1957 - Dorset Street. Durham. Ontario. Edward is a bricklayer. Olive is a clerk.

1963 Edward is retired and Olive is a Secretary - 49 Dorset Street. Durham. Ontario.

1965 Edward is retired and olive is a book-keeper - 21 King Street, Durham, Ontario.

1972 Edward retired and Olive P - Bookkeeper living at 21 King Street Northumberland Durham Ontario.

Sandra
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 17 June 13 09:28 BST (UK)
Attestation Papers for Herbert Luther Pringle (5th April 1885) - Whitby Ontario single in 1918. Father William B Pringle Whitby Ontario.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0uoc/ 

Sandra
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 17 June 13 09:31 BST (UK)
Herbert Pringle (Bachelor and Town Engineer) married Lila Margaret McPherson (1893 - aged 33 years) Daughter of Alexander Macpherson and Elizabeth Clark. Marriage 1 Oct 1926 Ontario.
Witnesses J J King. George McPherson.

Sandra
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 17 June 13 09:40 BST (UK)
Canada Voters List 1957 - Herbert L Pringle - Superintendant and Mrs Lila Pringle at 507 Brock Street South Oshawa Whitby

There is a Mrs Lila Pringle on the Canada Voters List 508 Brock Street. Oshawa Whitby in 1972.
There is also another couple, surname Tucker living at that address.

Sandra
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 17 June 13 09:42 BST (UK)
Herbert Luther Pringle died  in Oshawa on May 1, 1965, and is buried at Union Cemetery, Oshawa.

http://images.ourontario.ca/whitby/2502439/data

There is an address for Whitby Public Library on this Obituary - would that be worth an e-mail  ???

Whitby Public Library Email: archives@whitbylibrary.on.ca
www.whitbylibrary.on.ca

Sandra

Herbert Luther Pringle - 1934 - with photograph.

http://images.ourontario.ca/Whitby/47152/data?n=5
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 17 June 13 09:45 BST (UK)
Lila Margaret Pringle died 1980. Obituary appears in Whitby News Advertiser, 3 Dec 1980, p. 39  MacPherson, Lila Margaret,  - 1980.  May give details of family  ???

http://news.ourontario.ca/results?ln=Pringle

Whitby Public Library Email: archives@whitbylibrary.on.ca
www.whitbylibrary.on.ca

Sandra
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 17 June 13 09:53 BST (UK)
The parents of Lila and Emily  -Alexander MacPherson - Birth 5 Jul 1846 in Quebec   Died 10 Apr 1920 in  Whitby, Ontario.
Elizabeth Jane Clarke - Birth 1 Nov 1852 in Ontario, Canada - Died 08 Jan 1936 in  Whitby, Ontario.
A lot of the siblings seem to have died in Ontario.

8th Jan 1927 -  Jessie G. MacPherson Oshawa Union, South Presbyterian, Section A Durham Whitby East WO-

http://ocfa.islandnet.com/ocfa-search.php

Sandra

Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: suecol on Monday 17 June 13 10:02 BST (UK)
Oh my goodness Sandra - you have been very busy on my behalf! Thank you so much. I have found a limited tree on Ancestry with the PRINGLE family - will try making contact with the owner and see if I can tackle it from this angle. Have to go out now but will look in detail later at all the information you have sent and see where else that leads. Thank you again for your help so far - anything else you can come up will be greatly appreciated. You have certainly given me some ideas and links of where to start looking. Regards, Sue
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 17 June 13 10:04 BST (UK)
You're very welcome Sue.  Hopefully we can find a little more but I'm sure the links will be handy.

Sandra
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: Jacquie in Canada on Tuesday 18 June 13 03:20 BST (UK)
Hi Jacquie

What about the marriage cert? Does that ruling apply?

Currently marriages up to 1928 are available online. I believe marriages from 1929 and 1930 are available on microfilm but are not yet indexed. Hopefully they will be available sometime this year.

Jacquie
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: patsydawn on Tuesday 05 September 17 01:54 BST (UK)
Hi Sue, I just joined this website and was surprise to see this thread about my grandfather Ted Hazell. I am a Canadian descendent. What is your relationship to him?
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: bbart on Tuesday 05 September 17 03:33 BST (UK)
Hi Patsydawn, and welcome to Rootschat!  :)

It appears that Sue hasn't logged on in a couple of years, so in case she doesn't drop in, on Page 1 of this topic, a few posts down, she mentioned this:

I am not related to this family but am doing a wide ranging search into HAZELL families from South Bucks, England with the aim of trying to connect them to one another and to the branch from which my husband is descended. Many thanks for all your help so far, Sue
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: suecol on Tuesday 05 September 17 07:37 BST (UK)
Hi everyone. I have had a break from my HAZELL researches for a while and am just about to go on holiday for a few days. Will look at my files etc on my return and respond again then.
Title: Re: Descendants of Edward George HAZELL b 1883 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
Post by: patsydawn on Wednesday 06 September 17 00:03 BST (UK)
I'm looking forward to learning more:)