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Some Special Interests => Heraldry Crests and Coats of Arms => Topic started by: a-l on Friday 28 June 13 14:38 BST (UK)
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can anyone translate this family motto please? magnamiter chucem sustine regards sue
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I tried Google online translator - its not Latin - altho 'sustine' could mean 'waits'
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Hi alienlady
Latin: magnanimiter crucem sustine
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bear afflictions with magnanimity (also rendered, bear up bravely under the Cross)
http://www.eudict.com/?lang=lateng&word=magnanimiter%20crucem%20sustine
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Also this:
The emblem of the Order is a modified Greek fleury cross inscribed in Latin, Magnanimiter Crucem Sustine, the watchword of the Order, meaning “Valiantly bear the cross” or, in the Daughters’ translation, “With heart, mind, and spirit, uphold and bear the cross.”
http://ststephens.us.com/id32.html
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thankyou lostris, i am not sure which language it is to be honest . appears to me as a cross between latin and old french.
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wow! such a rapid response,i am amazed. thankyou so much fide and gadget am extremely greatful to you both. kindest regards sue
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You're welcome, AL. The Marston family motto is "Magnanimiter Chucem Sustine". Chuchem is a corruption of 'crucem' in Latin meaning The Cross.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dickmarston/marston.html
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gadget, what would this order be,did it say?
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thankyou again fide i thought i had made a spelling mistake . yes its the marston motto .
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ah, how embarrassing - I didnt look closely, just cut & paste. :-[
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No problem. You might like these stats if you haven't seen them already:
http://www.your-family-history.com/m/marston-family-history.php
More on the origin of the name here:
http://www.marston.plus.com/Marston%20Of%20Birstwith/The_Name.htm
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theres no need to be lostris don't be silly am grateful to you
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thankyou so much fide am indebted to you . some marstons originated in italy and maybe the same went to france before arriving in england . what i wouldn't give for a time machine!
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Yes, that second link says: "The name was originally used collectively to describe an Italian tribe of warriors, the Marsii." A first century BC leader of the tribe was Quintus Poppaedius Silo (sometimes seen as Pompaedius) (d. 88 BC). Silo appears in Colleen McCullough's novel 'The First Man in Rome'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quintus_Poppaedius_Silo
;D
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how wonderful fide! think i will be doing a lot of reading tonight. thanks very much fide kindest regards sue
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You're very welcome, Sue. There are also historical connections with the ancient tribes of the Rhineland (now in unified Germany), where they were known as the Marsii Condrusi, or "Oak People". http://www.tartanplace.com/tartanlegend/celtictribeseur.html
The Latin Christian family motto came in much much later.
A few famous Marstons:
- John Marston (1576-1634), English poet, playwright and satirist
- George White Marston (1850-1946), American politician, department store owner, and philanthropist
- William Moulton Marston (1893-1947), American psychologist, feminist theorist, inventor and comic book writer - creator of "Wonder Woman"!
- Elizabeth "Sadie" Holloway Marston (1893-1993), b. Isle of Man, naturalised American editor, author and lecturer, wife of William Moulton Marston
Happy reading! ;D
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wow! iwill be engrossed with all this fide, i did all my family research in the days when you travelled the country to various record offices. so this will be a real treat,thankyou. sue
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Now you can travel in seconds! ;D
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By the way, just to add that I am a bit dubious about that statistics website, the one with the graphs for all the censuses. I checked my family name, and there's no way the numbers add up! So the moral of the story is: don't believe everything you read on the internet! ;)
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thankyou fide, that was a very interesting read indeed. i don't believe everything i read on the internet or in the media for that matter,still have a few brain cells left.lol
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with thanks to lostris and gadget and especially fide et fortune for all your help. this is now closed.