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Title: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: mags c on Monday 15 July 13 22:28 BST (UK)
Looking for any information regarding Henrietta Salmon who emigratted from glasgow to america with her husband whose last name was riddell (i think).  Her parent were Henrietta and Peter Salmon who lived in glasgow in the early 1920's/30's.
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 16 July 13 12:57 BST (UK)
Any idea of a birth year for Henrietta ?

Sandra
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: mags c on Tuesday 16 July 13 21:27 BST (UK)
as far as i know she was born in 1919 in the kelvin district of glasgow
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: Niknak13 on Friday 27 June 14 04:28 BST (UK)
I am also interested in the Salmon family. I think they are connected to my family tree. If I am right, then Henrietta's father, Peter salmon, was the son of Mary Jane Thompson and William Salmon of Glasgow. Would love confirmation of this!
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 27 June 14 10:19 BST (UK)
If this is the same person she was born 15/3/1919 according to the army records for her father Peter Salmon of 15, Firhill Street Glasgow .....Peter married Henrietta McDonald 1913 Glasgowsister Mary born 30/5/1913 ,brother William 1916 ...father's occupation was gilder
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 June 14 10:58 BST (UK)
If this is the same person she was born 15/3/1919 according to the army records for her father Peter Salmon of 15, Firhill Street Glasgow .....Peter married Henrietta McDonald 1913 Glasgow sister Mary born 30/5/1913 ,brother William 1916 ...father's occupation was guilder

Working with the birth date Rosie kindly gave above, couldn't see a death for a Henrietta Riddell on the SSDI. (Social Security Death Index)
That particular birth date gave these 2 names -

Henrietta Burriss 15 Mar 1919 who died 21 Aug 2011 Baltimore, Baltimore, Maryland
Henrietta Pechtold 15 Mar 1919 who died 3 Dec 2009 Lombard, Du Page, Illinois

Sandra
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 27 June 14 11:08 BST (UK)
I could not see anything either Sandra also in the crossings hard when you don't know exact name  :)
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 27 June 14 11:10 BST (UK)
Hi Niknak  no parents mentioned on his army records only that this chap was born 1889 and was aged 28 ...You could try for a marriage for this couple and that will confirm the parents  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 June 14 11:29 BST (UK)
Brother William 15 November 1915 died 1 June 1995 Glasgow - His wife Elizabeth Clifford Malloy born 2 November 1918 in  Glasgow Died 18th November 2002 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire. Source anc tree. No further info and no others mentioned.

Sandra
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 June 14 11:34 BST (UK)
This could be Peter with parents  - 1901 46 Dunard Street Glasgow Kelvinside -


Wm Salmon  35  Mary J Salmon  34
Peter Salmon  12 Jessie Salmon  9
Jeanie Salmon  7 Mary Salmon  4

Sandra


Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 June 14 11:43 BST (UK)
Suspect this could be a possible for Henrietta McDonald - 1901 at 18 Cross Street. Partick. Lanarkshire.

Malcolm Mcdonald  31 Head. Mary Ann Mcdonald  29
Charles Mcdonald  1 Helen Mcdonald  4
Henry Mcdonald  64  Grandfather
Jane Mcdonald  1 Month
Henrietta Mcdonald  9 Niece born Scotstown Renfrewshire.
Robert Dalsbril  30

Sandra


Added Could be private anc tree on Henrietta. IF it is Henrietta Born 27 Feb 1892 - 9 Scotstown Place, Renfrew
 
Lived at 25 April 1913 at 818 New City Road (that's different to the army record address for 1913) and 17 June 1931 at St Mungo Place. The private tree entries refer to Peter Salmon at St Mungo Place 17 June 1931 ???

Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: shellyesq on Friday 27 June 14 12:23 BST (UK)
Henrietta Pechtold 15 Mar 1919 who died 3 Dec 2009 Lombard, Du Page, Illinois

I think we can rule out this one, as I found her mentioned in an obituary for her brother and his surname was Kreuger.
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: Elizabeth Wright on Wednesday 07 January 15 10:04 GMT (UK)
Hi I am tracing my family tree and came across your post - My great uncle Samuel John Johnston (Maternal Grandmothers brother) Was married to Mary Salmon.  He was killed during WW2 1/5/44. I have attached their marriage lines to see if it is of any help.  I would like to know if they had any children, my aunt thinks they may have had two but doesn't know their names.  Mary may well have married again because she was a young widow.
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: mags c on Tuesday 30 June 15 23:10 BST (UK)
Hi not been on for a long while.  Just saw this post, Not sure where mary salmon fits in, she may have been Peter Snr's sister.  The parents listed on the certificate are Peter (my dad)  and Henrietta's (his sister) parents.  George Riddel was Henrietta Jnrs husband. They married in 1935 and eventually moved to Canada as far as I know.
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: mags c on Tuesday 30 June 15 23:14 BST (UK)
Also, don't know why she listed Peter as her father? and I have no idea who E. Salmon is.  I thought with such an unusual name it would be a dawdle to trace ....
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: Niknak13 on Wednesday 01 July 15 00:53 BST (UK)
Howdy, this is what I have on this family: Mary Jane Thompson (sister of my great grandmother) married William Salmon & they had 4 children - Peter, Jessie, Jeanie & Mary. Peter Salmon married Henrietta McDonald & they had 3 children - Mary (married Sam Johnson), William (married Elizabeth Malloy) & Henrietta Jnr (married George Riddell.) I have no other info on Peters sisters Jessie, Jeanie or Mary - I think one of them was nicknamed Polly and she possibly married someone with the surname Ryan or Rynd. (I have a photo of a "polly ryan" that was in my great grans stuff)
So the E. Salmon who signed as a witness to the wedding of Mary & Sam above could have been Elizabeth wife of William Salmon perhaps?
Please can you all tell me exactly how you fit into this family so I can add you to my family tree?
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: mags c on Wednesday 01 July 15 20:41 BST (UK)
I'm not sure actually , my dad was adopted by Peter Salmon and Henrietta.  He was born on the 29/8/1916.  Henrietta, (my grandmother) died from cancer in 1931 at 35 St Mungo Street Glasgow.  Henrietta (my dads stepsister) was born in 1919.  she later married a George Riddell and as far as I know emigrated to Canada.  My dad never spoke about his family, so I am going on names my mum told me.  He did mention spending much of his childhood in Paisley, but his adopted family originated from Maryhill in Glasgow.  His birth mother was called Bridget Murphy and he was born in the Rottenrow maternity hospital and his mother had him christened.  I have had no joy trying to trace Bridget.
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: mags c on Wednesday 01 July 15 20:44 BST (UK)
William and Mary had another daughter called williamenia.  They originally had 8 children but only 6 survived to adult hood.  No idea who the other 2 were or when they died etc.
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: Niknak13 on Thursday 02 July 15 07:08 BST (UK)
HI Mags,
Where did you get the info that Mary Jane and William Salmon had 8 children in total, 2 of whom died?
The only Williamina Salmon I can find on the internet was the daughter of James Salmon and Helen - this family also lived in Glasgow.
I wonder of one of their children was named Polly. Dont spoz you have that info?
CHeers,
Nicky






Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: mags c on Thursday 02 July 15 20:43 BST (UK)
It was from the 1911 census.  They were living at 38 Kelvinside in Glasgow.

Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: Niknak13 on Friday 03 July 15 00:18 BST (UK)
Please can you send me the names of their children that are on this census. I am trying to trace living descendants of any or all of them...always hopiung one of them has some info on the family history to add to what I already know.
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: mags c on Thursday 09 July 15 19:49 BST (UK)
Will do but I'm away from home just now will send it when I get home
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: mags c on Wednesday 05 August 15 17:32 BST (UK)
Hi NikNak13
Please find attached a copy of the census for the Salmon family in 1911

Attachment removed due to copyright issue ~ moderator
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: mags c on Monday 10 August 15 22:32 BST (UK)
William Salmon and Mary Jane Salmon nee Thompson living at
120/ 38 Kelvinside Avenue Glasgow
Hi sorry didn't realise this had been removed.  This is a copy of the information:

Their children in 1911 census:               
where born:   Name:         Age:                                         Profession:      
Lanark       William         45     Head                                Picture Frame gilder/Employer            
England       Mary         44     Wife               
Lanark       Peter          22     Son                                 Picture Frame gilder            
Lanark       Jessie         19     Daughter                 
Lanark       Jean         17     Daughter                         Typist            
Lanark       Mary          14     Daughter                         Message girl            
Lanark       Williamina   6     Daughter                         Schoolgirl            
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: Elizabeth Wright on Tuesday 17 October 17 21:52 BST (UK)
Hi I am tracing my family tree and came across your post - My great uncle Samuel John Johnston (Maternal Grandmothers brother) Was married to Mary Salmon.  He was killed during WW2 1/5/44. I have attached their marriage lines to see if it is of any help. Mary was killed a few years later.  They left two children and I wonder if Henrietta may have adopted them and took them to Canada
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: Elizabeth Wright on Tuesday 17 October 17 21:55 BST (UK)
Hi I am tracing my family tree and came across your post - My great uncle Samuel John Johnston (Maternal Grandmothers brother) Was married to Mary Salmon.  He was killed during WW2 1/5/44. I have attached their marriage lines to see if it is of any help.  I would like to know if they had any children, my aunt thinks they may have had two but doesn't know their names.  Mary died a few years later they left two children and i wonder if Henrietta adopted them and took them to Canada
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Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: Elizabeth Wright on Wednesday 18 October 17 17:23 BST (UK)
I'm not sure actually , my dad was adopted by Peter Salmon and Henrietta.  He was born on the 29/8/1916.  Henrietta, (my grandmother) died from cancer in 1931 at 35 St Mungo Street Glasgow.  Henrietta (my dads stepsister) was born in 1919.  she later married a George Riddell and as far as I know emigrated to Canada.  My dad never spoke about his family, so I am going on names my mum told me.  He did mention spending much of his childhood in Paisley, but his adopted family originated from Maryhill in Glasgow.  His birth mother was called Bridget Murphy and he was born in the Rottenrow maternity hospital and his mother had him christened.  I have had no joy trying to trace Bridget.
Samuel Johnston who was married to Mary Salmon was my Grandmothers youngest brother, he was killed in India and a few years later mary was killed in a road accident.  They had two children born around 1934 and 1935 I have been trying to find out what happened to them after they were orphaned.  Maybe Henrietta or William adopted the or they stayed with the grandparents.  My aunt seems to vaguely remember Henrietta emigrating to Canada but can't be sure.
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: Fionaward on Saturday 26 January 19 12:20 GMT (UK)
My grandma and grandad (Henrietta and George Riddell) adopted a Sam and Molly after their parents died, their mother died in a car accident but not sure about the father. They had a son called George who died at 3 year old then had another son called Gordon (my dad) They lived in Port Glasgow then moved to Haddington East Lothian to be with their grandkids and family (me and my 2 brothers).
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: mags c on Saturday 26 January 19 20:58 GMT (UK)
To Fionaward - I have quite a bit of information on Peter Salmons family if you would like it I can send it to you.  I had started researching this family only to discover a few years down the line they were not my Salmons .... :o 8)
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: Fionaward on Sunday 27 January 19 16:17 GMT (UK)
Mags c, that would be great. Thank you very much. 
Title: Re: Henrietta Salmon
Post by: mags c on Tuesday 29 January 19 21:25 GMT (UK)
Hi I have some certificates which i will dig out and send to you.