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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: Suzy W on Thursday 08 August 13 23:26 BST (UK)
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O.K another missing family.
Charles Henry Boyle and his wife Georgina born abt 1894 Pigeon Bay.
One daughter Reta is showing up for her death date 1982, but no sign of Charles and Georgina. Could they of been buried at Pigeon Bay?
Suzy W
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Hi Suzy
The lady Reta Georgina BOYLE who died in 1982, appears to have been married (BOYLE being her married name).
[Have found her on electoral rolls with husband, South Canterbury area, plus a corresponding marriage. ] ???
~ Lu
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1928 - Manawatu-Wanganui roll
BOYLE - Charles Henry - Grey Street, Shannon -- tailor
BOYLE - Georgina - married -- at same address
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Incidentally, 1928 is the last listing for them.
[All Georgina BOYLE's appearing on later rolls are married to other men. No further sign of a Charles Henry BOYLE. No (apparent) remarriage for a Georgina BOYLE. ]
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Thanks Lucy. They must of gone over to OZ.
Suzy W
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Hello...
There's a tree on Mundia for a Charles Henry BOYLE b.1885 in Oamaru.
He married a Georgina LYALL.
The tree says they had three sons. One born in 1922 is still with us. Worth contacting the treeowner?
No mention of a Reta.
http://www.mundia.com/au/Person/6600619/1406888154
Regards
Beg
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Thanks Beg.
For some reason I just can not access the site with my Ancestry password etc.
Suzy W
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Hi Suzy
I think the following is likely to be Georgina. Seems she resided in Auckland from at least 1935 (indexed as "Georgia" on 1935 e/roll).
1946 - Auckland - Arch Hill
BOYLE - Georgina - married - 10 Richmond Road
BOYLE - Eric Campbell - polisher - at same address
Of interest, is that she is listed as "married" at all the various addresses she's at in Auckland - and yet there is no husband sharing an address (nor a Charles Henry BOYLE in those localities).
Of significance (perhaps) is that in 1954 - Georgina BOYLE , tailoress, is at 211 New North Road (Eden electorate). And at same address is Gordon Hugh BOYLE, Tailor (and his wife Mary). [Gordon Hugh is her brother-in-law ... is that correct ? ]
In 1972 Georgina is in the Pakuranga electorate - this time described as "widow".
see next >
~ Lu
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Death
I can see a death listing for Georgina BOYLE (or variants) at BDM online. ???
However there is this cremation record for Purewa Cemetery (Auck.)
BOYLE - Georgina (female)
Age: Unknown
Date of Service : 18 July 1973
Cremation: Ashes returned
Funeral Director: Sibuns, Remuera
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Death
I can can't see a death listing for Georgina BOYLE (or variants) at BDM online. ???
** Correction ** -- to typo ... should read can't see a death ...
:-[
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Link to Purewa >
http://www.purewa.co.nz/search.asp
Hopefully Funeral Director can assist with further info. ???
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As for Charles Henry BOYLE, the following may be him in Australia ?
1937 - NSW - East Sydney - Surry Hills
BOYLE - Charles Henry - 111 Fitzroy Street - Tailor
Can't see him under that occupation in following rolls, but there is this "possible" in 1949 :
1949 - NSW - Blaxland - Lidcombe South
BOYLE - Charles Henry - Lidcombe State Hospital* - Tailor
[* Note: Glancing over the other names on the 2-page image for this 1949 roll, I noticed quite a lot of people had the address "Lidcombe State Hospital". Mostly they also had their occupations stated. Possibly they may have been employees of the Hospital, rather than inmates/patients ? ]
~ Lu
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Great work Lucy. Georgina and Charles may of parted ways.
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Looks as if Charles died 1950 in NSW.
Thanks Lucy.
Suzy W
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Hi Suzy
Yes I saw that death on the NSW index ... and would agree (as per the post on your AUS thread), that the Charles BOYLE aged 64 - reg'd. at Parramatta, seems most likely. ;)
~ Lu
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I would mark this as completed, but for some reason on the NZ board it does not allow me to do this.
Thanks again Lucy. Certainly helped clear up Georgina for me.
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Hi Suzy,
You need to ask a Moderator to make it complete for you.
This will explain.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0vng/
Cheers
KHP
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Thanks KHP
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Following on from Suzi's inquiry in Charles Henry and Georgina. They had 3 sons possibly while living in Shannon. It appears Charles disappeared in 1929 most likely due to both his parent passing within 5 days of each other. There was a notice posted in NSW Police Gazette looking for him and Auckland was his last known address. So he appears to have remained in Sydney and Georgina was left with the 3 boys.
She was living in Auckland and died in 1980
All the boys have now passed but there may be a few descendants. Georgina had 3 brothers and 4 sisters. She was the last to go.
Cheers
Rick related through Gertrude Boyle - James Boyle's granddaughter - Charles father Hugh is James brother
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Hello
Georgina came from a very large family, she is one of ten sisters and four brothers...so hopefully we have the right Georgina?
Georgina is the daughter of James Milne Lyall and Mary White. Born 1894 in Pigeon Bay
I have her marrying Charles Henry Boyle in 1920, and the couple had three son's and one daughter.
Does this tie in with what you have at all?
Suzy W
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Hi Sorry for delay but I can confirm it is the same Georgina. I did not know about the daughter but will do some further research. I was given the following information Georgina Lyall (Charlie boyle's wife) was the granddaughter of Pirauau (Sarah) wife of Captain Thomas White - an American Whaler, who settled at Pigeon Bay, Akaroa. They were married by Bishop Pompallier in 1846.
'Piraurau had a son previously to John Miller who lived at Purakanui Pa. (Purakanui was where my Foote ancestors started their lives in NZ in the 1860's-1880, and we all visited the Homstead in Jan. 2014 as part of the Foote Reunion ) The Millers married several McLaughlans in the district and were closely involved with the Foote Family of my father.' (these notes from my previous genealogy programme)
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Oh thanks for that info on the Millars, My 4th cousin comes from the Lyall, White and Piraurau families, I wonder if she knew about a child being born to John Millar?
It is said Thomas White was the first white man to marry into a Maori family in NZ, not too certain if this is correct?
Suzy W
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Just spoke to my cousin and yes she has all the info on John Millar aka Tiake Mira and how his mother was won as a prize.
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Hi Suzy,
I would be very interested in gaining the information about Piraurau and John Millar. My husband whakapapas back to Piraurau and Tom white. I have information about them after the settlement in pigeon bay as well as a couple of photographs if anyone is interested.
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My cousin descends from Thomas White and Sarah Piraurau, her gg grandfather James Milne Lyall (brother of my gg grandfather) married their daughter Mary Piraurau. she lives in Melbourne.
You might already be in contact with her D.W. If not I can pass on your info.
Suzy W
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Hi Suzy,
Thanks for that, we visited the graves at pigeon bay on the weekend. I would be grateful if you could pass my details to your cousin. Am new to this site so am a bit unsure what contact information is available on you? Would my email address be ok?
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I will send a personal message to you. ;)