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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: Lizzy on Monday 12 July 04 10:21 BST (UK)
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Hi, Does anybody out there have or know the name Veasey (Vasey) from Charlestown Ireland.
What I have so far is :-
They were born around the 1850s in Ireland and moved to Wigan around 1878. John Veasey married Winifred Foy also from Charlestown in 1878 in Wigan. John had a brother Thomas who died in a Wigan mine in 1879. Their father was Patrick who must have stayed in Ireland. Another problem - where is Charlestown? this site says Louth but I have also found it in Co Mayo.
I have no idea about Ireland. Any help would be appreciated.
Lizzy
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Hi,
Neither Veasey nor Veasy seem to show up in the Griffiths Registration or in any other database I search. Maybe the spelling changed over the years but I can't think from what.
Have you seen this VEASEY website? They don't mention Ireland.
http://members.tripod.com/~Ann_VZ_Davis/
but some of the messages do
http://members.tripod.com/~Ann_VZ_Davis/oldguest.html
and there's a message list
http://genforum.genealogy.com/veasey/
which has some Ireland mentions.
Kate
www.hi5holidays.com/famhist.html
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Hei Lizzy,
James Vesey, aged 22, emigrated to America on the Ocean Queen sailing from Liverpool in 1848. He arrived there on 26th August
Peter Veasey, a labourer aged 21, emigrated to New York on the Teutonic
which sailed from Liverpool on 30th April, 1891 to Queenston NYC
Best Wishes, Chris
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Hei Lizzy,
This site will assist you in finding some Veaseys. http://www.familysearch.org
Best Wishes,
Chris
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Hi Lizzie,
this site: http://genforum.genealogy.com/vesey/messages/79.html has Vesey (and variants) references from Charlestown Mayo - there may be a contact, although it is quite old.
It does mention that the Charlestown records are quite clear so that is optimistic and perhaps can be followed up.
www.failteromhat.com has several Vesey in Griffiths Valuation (around 1850) for Kilbeagh parish which includes Charlestown.
Some still there in 1901 census at http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/1901census/
This site http://www.from-ireland.net/parishrecords/mayo/mayorcindex.htm#6 has the LDS reference for Kilbeagh parish where you could order the film to search.
This is presuming that your ancestors were from Charlestown area! The Griffiths site does not have any variants of Vesey in Louth.
every good wish
Heywood
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http://www.mayo-ireland.ie/Mayo/Towns/Charl/Charl.htm - a Charlestown site with info etc- there is a discussion board where you might want to post an enquiry.
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I have only just come back onto the site after being too distracted with other branches of my trees. I would like to thank you all for the sites posted. It has given me something to look into and I have a couple of email addresses from one of the sites to contact to see if they can help.
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Hi Lizzy,
My maternal grandfather was Patrick Vesey, harnessmaker, Charlestown, Mayo. My mother Mary Ellen, emigrated to the US, all her siblings but one sister emigtrated to England. The later, Theresa Murray, owns a pub on The Square in Charlestown.
Brendan
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Thank you for he message. I have Patrick (a labourer) who must have been born around 1830. Then there are two sons Thomas and our John b.1850. John was definately in England in 1878 to get married here. His wife being Winnifred Foy father Matthew who was deceased at marriage. The 1901 census is the one that says for both John and Winnifred birth Meath Charlestown. John and Winnifred lived in Wigan but one child was born in Yorkshire (from a census) and I have noticed a lot of Va/easeys in Yorkshire. Lizzy
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Hi Lizzy,
'Meath' is dittoed from the people above and I would suspect that the ditto was meant to be Ireland - if you follow me!
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Hi Lizzy
I have a John Vasey b 1841 Co Mayo in my mothers line he married a Margaret also from Mayo and had two sons that I have found, Michael and Thomas born 1862 and 1872 respectivly.
They were in Batley in the West Riding of Yorkshire from at least 1872 as Thomas states his birth place as Co Mayo.
The reason you see alot of Vasey families in Yorkshire is they were from the North east of England around Co Durham and moved down the coast to Whitby and then inland. So far they seem to have no connection with the Irish branch.
The story is that the name Vasey came from France with the Normans who were given lands all over the place as they took over Britain, I seem to remember something about Norman families in Ireland to though I hope some kind person could put me right.
Hope this helps?
Tim Bickerdike
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Hello Lizzy,
Just navigating around your Veasey/Vasey/Vesey query in Louth and Mayo .
Not sure how far you have now got, but just to say two Patrick Vesey families were resident just outside of Charlestown.
One in Barroe, Kilbeagh east of Charlestown which now is within the Cloonmore DED area where at the time of Johns birth there were five households with the Vesey name and by the 1911 Census four remained with various spellings Veasy/Vesey.
The second in Treanacally/Hagfield west of Charlestown which is now within the Sonnagh DED area there were at the time of Johns birth three Vesey households which by the 1911 census were three with various spellings Veasey/Vesey.
I have seen the name Nevsey used later corrected to Vesey in my own research. I've had a quick look at The LDS site but feel you may have better luck with the microfilms for the Kilbeagh parish.
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Hi there.
There was a De Vesci (pronounced De Vesey) estate in Abbeyleix Co Laois (formerly known as Queens Co). They were related to the Vesey and DeVesci families in Galway and Mayo. The following link will give information from the library of the National University of Ireland in Galway which houses the estate papers of the families. They were quite influential ancestors to have! This link also gives an abbreviated history of the family. Hope this helps with your research
http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie:8080/LandedEstates/jsp/estate-show.jsp?id=529
Regards
Ros
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Much of the NUI Galway records provide a valuable insight into the Vesey family as I found in the past. Difficulty is establishing the connection beyond presumption, given the principal branch were COI and apparently absentee landlords during the 19Cent.
The tenant farmer Veseys seemed to have turned and become assimilated by 1856 and were Roman Catholics in the main.
There may have been a parting of the waves on the question of religion as Viscount Dillon/Strickland the architects of the building of Charlestown were in the main sympathetic to the plight of the Catholic majority and some of the Veseys were tenants of Viscount Dillon.
Despite the extensive landholdings of George Vesey in 1856 none of his tenants were Vesey tenant farmers.
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Hi,
Does this match any of your info
There is more to the family. father is Michael Vasey and mother is Winifred Gallagher bother from Treneacally/Hagfield. My Ancestry tree is koller3 5-2008
Birth of Son James F. Vasey(1874)
AUG 1874 Batley, Yorkshire, England/Batley, England
1874
33
Birth of Daughter Maggie E Vasey(1876)
1876 Batley, Yorkshire, England/Yorkshire Co., England
1876
34
Birth of Daughter Anna Veronica Vasey(18781970)
DEC 1878 Batley, Yorkshire Co., England
1878
37
Birth of Son Michael Vasey(18801884)
1880 Batley, Yorkshire, England/Batley, England
1880
38
Birth of Daughter Annie E Vasey(1880)
Dec 1880 England
1880
39
Arrival
1880
1 Source
1880
39
Residence
1881 Batley, Yorkshire, England
Marital Status: Married; Relationship to Head: Head
1 Source
1881
40
Birth of Daughter Jennifer Vasey(1882)
1882 Batley, YorkshireCo., England
1882
40
Birth of Son Michael Vasey(1883)
1883 Batley, Yorkshire, England/Batley, England
1883
41
Death of Son Michael Vasey(18801884)
1 NOV 1884 4134 Terrace St, Manayunk, Phila., PA(5yrs)
1884
43
Birth of Son Joseph M Vasey(18841944)
11 NOV 1884 Manayunk, Philadelphia, PA.
1884
43
Michael Vasey
Michael Vasey
20 Apr 1895 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
1 Source 1 Media
1895
54
EDIT
Michael Vasey
Michael Vasey
14 Jan 1897 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
1 Source 1 Media
Hope this is a connection. I believe Michael had a brother Thomas and Patrick. Just can not tell from Charlestown records...:(
Hope to hear from you,
Gerry Koller
Maryland, USA
But they all settled in Philadelphia.