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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) => Topic started by: J Michel THERET on Monday 02 December 13 14:08 GMT (UK)
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Hello,
I look for information on the family ANTHONY DE BATHGATE.
Certain James ANTHONY been born August 24th, 1884 came to fight(dispute) in France during the war 1914-1918.
He was the son of William ANTHONY and Agnès COYLE
He(It) had a son in France in 1916 with Zoé VERGEOT
He married Zoé VERGEOT on January 10th, 1917 to Galametz in France.
Then he(it) died in the fight in France on April 01st, 1918
It would seem that he(it) also has other brothers of persons killed in the fights
It was the grandfather of one friend for whom I try to find information
Could you help me has to find information on the couple William ANTHONY and Agnès COYLE?
Their dates and wedding, born places, the list of their children...
Thank you in advance.
Cordially.
Jean-Michel THERET
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Hi J Michel Theret,
Welcome to RootsChat, wish you success with your research.
I have split the post you added to an existing thread as it is not the same family, or at least some 80 years after the family talked about in that post. The splitting of the post should not affect you, in fact it may channel facts about your case better.
Tom
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the 1891 census has this family in Bathgate, West Lothian: -
William Anthony, 35, plasterer
Agnes Anthony 36
Maggie 14, William S 12, John 10, Lizzie 8, James 6, Robert 3 & Jessie 1
All born in Bathgate.
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Hi and welcome
According to James' birth certificate, William Anthony and Agnes Coyle married in Bathgate on June 5th 1876.
Their marriage cert is dated 9th June 1876, Bathgate.
William, 20, is given as a plasterer (journeyman) and Agnes's surname is written as Kyle. Agnes is aged 21.
William's parents were - John Anthony, a plasterer and Margaret M. S (nee) Stewart - deceased
Agnes's parents were William Kyle, a miner - deceased - and Margaret M.S. Farr (?)
Gadget
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Hi Jean-Michel,
In the 1901 census, at Chapel Lane, Bathgate, William is a 49yo plasterer, with wife Agnes, 46. Family living with them are :_
son William, 22 a coal miner,
son John, 20 also a coal miner,
daughter Elizabeth , 18 a domestic servant,
our James, a 16yo plumbers apprentice,
son Robert a 13yo plasterers apprentice,
daughter jessie an 11yo scholar and
a 4yo son, Thomas.
Tom
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Next generation back:
1871 Census
16 Academy Street, Bathgate
John Anthony, widower, 46, slater and plasterer
Janet, dau, unm, 21
James, son, unm, 17
William, son, 15
Robert, son, 12
Hellen S, dau, 10
Margaret, dau. 7
Jane, dau, 5
All born Bathgate
Will check on the Coyle/Kyles
Gadget
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Agnes's birth on link below - as it's an 1855 birth, a certificate from Scotland's People would give a lot of information about her parents
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQS9-G61
Gadget
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Good evening,
I thank sincerely all the people who one answered my search(research).
Having exploited(run) all this information, I was able to connect them with other elements and I was able to reconstitute the following ancestry:
Génération I
1 ANTHONY
Génération II
2 ANTHONY James ° 24/08/1884 Bathgate (GB) Apprenti plombier, Tourneur en fer
+ 01/04/1918
x 10/01/1917 Galametz (62)
3 VERGEOT Zoé Marie Marguerite ° 29/05/1890 Cavron Saint Martin (62)
+ 10/11/1967 Montreuil (62)
Génération III
4 ANTHONY William ° 20/02/1856 Bathgate (GB) Platrier
+ Y 1917/.... Bathgate? (GB)
x 05/06/1876 Bathgate (GB)
5 COYLE (KYLE) Agnès ° 02/04/1855 Bathgate (GB)
+ 1917/.... Bathgate? (GB)
6 VERGEOT Charles Joseph + ..../1917 Cavron Saint Martin? (62)
7 DESCAMPS Constance + Cavron Saint Martin? (62)
Génération IV
8 ANTHONY John ° 08/03/1825 Bathgate Couvreur platrier
+ Y 1876/....
x 06/08/1848 Bathgate
9 STEWART Margaret ° ca ../../1827 Bathgate
+ Y ..../1876
10 KYLE William + ..../1876 Mineur
11 FARR Margaret + 1876/....
Génération V
16 Anthony John ° 14/05/1796 Bathgate
x ca ../../1812 Bathgate
17 Shade Hellan ° ../../1790
+ Y ..../1871 Bathgate? (GB)
Génération VI
34 Shedd James ° 04/09/1749 Corstorphine
x ca ../../1775
35 Robertson Janet ° 16/11/1746 Corstorphine
Génération VII
70 Robertson George
x ca ../../1745
71 Miller Janet ° 11/10/1719 Corstorphine
Génération VIII
142 Millar Patrick ° ../../1687
143 Wilkie Margaret ° ../../1684 Corstorphine
Génération IX
286 Wilkie James ° ../../1651 Corstorphine
x 04/11/1681 Corstorphine
287 Clarkson Mary
Génération X
572 Wilkie JAMES ° ../../1620
x ca ../../1640 Corstorphine
573 Anderson Janet ° ../../1620
574 Clarkson John
575 Brown Helen
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Thank you in all
Jean Michel THERET (Pas-de-Calais France)
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Hello, Thanks to the help that was given to me by this site, I discovered that James ANTHONY had siblings : | ___ANTHONY Maggie ° .. / ../1877 Bathgate 1891 / .... | William ___ANTHONY No .. / ../1879 Bathgate 1901 / .... | John ___ANTHONY No .. / ../1881 Bathgate 1901 / .... | ___ANTHONY Lizzie ( Elizabeth ) No .. / ../1883 Bathgate 1901 / .... [color = blue] | ° ___ANTHONY James Bathgate 08/24/1884 04/01/1918 | 01/10/1917 Galametz x ___ (62) | ___x Vergeot Zoe Marie Marguerite ° 29/05/1890 Cavron Saint Martin ( 62) 10/11/1967 [/ color] Montreuil (62) | ___ | ___ANTHONY ? | Robert ___ANTHONY No .. / ../1888 Bathgate 1901 / .... | ___ANTHONY Jessie ° .. / ../1890 Bathgate 1901 / .... | Thomas ___ANTHONY No .. / ../1897 Bathgate 1901/....J ' know what they have become (if they are married they have had children ? ) It seems that some of them are also died in WW1 memorial Guerreau Bathgate , there are 4 ANTHONY ANTHONY AH PTE RGA 1914-1918 ANTHONY J SGT RS 1914-1918 ANTHONY J PTE QOH 1914-1918 (probably James ) PTE ANTHONY W A & SH 1914-1918 Will it possible to know who these people are listed on the mémorial.Je sincerely thank you for avance.Jean Michel Théret ( Pas- de- Calais France )
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Bonjour,
Grace à l'aide qui m'a été apportée par ce site, j'ai pu découvrir que James ANTHONY avait eu des frères et soeurs:
|___ANTHONY Maggie ° ../../1877 Bathgate + 1891/....
|___ANTHONY William ° ../../1879 Bathgate + 1901/....
|___ANTHONY John ° ../../1881 Bathgate + 1901/....
|___ANTHONY Lizzie (Elisabeth) ° ../../1883 Bathgate + 1901/....
|___ANTHONY James ° 24/08/1884 Bathgate + 01/04/1918
|___ x 10/01/1917 Galametz (62)
|___x VERGEOT Zoé Marie Marguerite ° 29/05/1890 Cavron Saint Martin (62) + 10/11/1967 Montreuil (62)
|___|___ANTHONY ?
|___ANTHONY Robert ° ../../1888 Bathgate + 1901/....
|___ANTHONY Jessie ° ../../1890 Bathgate + 1901/....
|___ANTHONY Thomas ° ../../1897 Bathgate + 1901/....
J'ignore ce qu'ils sont devenus (se sont-ils mariés? ont-ils eu des enfants?)
Il semblerait que certains d’entre eux soient également décédés à la guerre
Au mémorial WW1 de Bathgate, on trouve 4 ANTHONY:
ANTHONY A H PTE RGA 1914-1918
ANTHONY J SGT RS 1914-1918
ANTHONY J PTE QOH 1914-1918 (probablement James)
ANTHONY W PTE A & SH 1914-1918
Y a-t-il possibilité de connaitre qui sont ces personnes indiquées sur le mémorial.
Je vous remercie sincèrement par avance.
Jean Michel Théret (Pas- de-Calais France)
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Bathgate Mortality Records, has an infant death, Jane Coyle Anthony, 15 months, 6 Nov' 1900, daughter of Maggy Anthony, domestic servant.
Skoosh.
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Hello,
James Anthony, Private, 47505. Queen's Own Oxfordshire Hussars. Died 1/04/1918. Age 33
Son of William and Agnes Anthony (nee Coyle), of 49, Chapel Lane, Bathgate, West Lothian; husband of Zoe Marie Marguerite Vergot Anthony, of Cavron Saint Martin, Pas de Calais, France.
Archibald Anthony, Gunner, 72862, Royal Garrison Artillery. Died 18/09/1918. Age 40
Son of John and Mary Anthony, of The Hall, Bathgate.
William Anthony, Lance Corporal, S/6532, Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders. Died 16/07/1917
Husband of Mary Conley (formerly Anthony), of 5, Easton Rows, Bathgate, West Lothian.
John Anthony, Sgt, 21544, Royal Scots. Died 24/08/1917
Place of Birth: Bathgate
Certificates for the men can be found on www.cwgc.org
Hope this helps.
Mags
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Thank you very much for your help(assistant) and this new information
JM THERET
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Good Afternoon,
If you are still looking for James Anthony's family background in Bathgate, Scotland. Agnes nee- Coyle Anthony born 1855,02 April, Bathgate (Bathark,Linlithgow ), West Lothian, Scotland. She is my Great-Grand Aunt. Her Brother William Coyle born 1865 (died 1907) is my Great-Grandfather.
Agnes had sister's Elizabeth born 1857 – 1887, Jane born 1852 – 1908 and another brother James born 1862 –( died 1932).
James and William both married sister's from the same Robertson family. James married Margaret Robertson born 1869 & died (16 Mar 1948- at 51 Mansefield Street, Bathgate, West Lothian). William married Helen Robertson( My Great-Grandmother) born16 March 1874 in Linlithgowshire, West Lothian, Scotland & died 31 Jan 1951 in 1 Waverley Street, Bathgate, West Lothian, Scotland.
Agnes (Coyle) Anthony's parents were Margaret Farr- Birth abt 1822 in Ireland & Death 02 Sept 1905 in Bathgate, West Lothian, Scotland and William Coyle ( Birth abt 1827 in Ireland & Death abt. Oct. 1871( Still TBC).
William Coyle born abt 1827's parents were Alexander Coyle born abt. 1795 Ireland & Margaret McLaughlin born abt. 1795 Ireland also.
I have found Coyle spelt in some places as Coil, Ovil or Caul.
Margaret Farr's parents were Agnes Moffatt born abt. 1795 Ireland and James Farr born abt. 1795 Ireland also.
There is another Agnes Coyle in our family. My Grandmother Agnes Coyle was born April 1907, one month after her Father William Coyle (b.1865-March 1865) died. My Gran too, was also born in Bathgate, West Lothian, Scotland.
I hope this is of some help to your friend. Does your friend have any information to add on to James Anthony's siblings?
Regards,
Lorianne from
Canada
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Hello,
I received your family information ANTHONY Bathgate and I thank you because they are very interesting.
I will be absent, but upon my return I will study it and give you away.
Thank you again.
Sincerely.
Jean Michel THERET
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Hi
Time has passed since you requested information about James Anthony of Bathgate. James is my wife's Great Uncle. Her mother has just celebrated her 99th birthday and remembers Irene from her visits to Bathgate in the 1920/30's. Many attempts have been made since WWII to find out what happened to the family. We will be grateful for any information you can provide.
Sandy Deuchars
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Hello J Michel Theret, my Grandmother Jenny Anthony was the daughter of John Anthony one of the Anthony brothers who died at the Somme in 1917. We visited his grave at Tincourt boucaly in 1996. She told me about the brother who married a French girl in Calais. The brothers photos recently appeared on a local history handout featuring patriotic families of WW1.