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Some Special Interests => Occupation Interests => Topic started by: RICHIE on Thursday 16 January 14 19:59 GMT (UK)
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Hi
could anyone possibly tell me if there are any online sites whereby i could research the career of a master mariner. I am researching my grt grt grt grandfather Frederick strasenburgh. He was born in north leith in 1824 and moved to southshields where he gained his master's certificate on 3rd november 1852. I do know that he was master of 2 briggs in his career " GEM " and " LAWSONS ".
During my research i have discovered that he died at sea but i would love to know more about how he died and on what vessel. I do know that the event occured 25 september 1862.
best regards
RICHARD
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Headline: SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE.
Publication:Newcastle Journal
Publication date:Friday 03 October 1862
Article text:"with loss of canvass. The brig Lawsons, of South Shields, recently put back to Cronstadt, in consequence the master, Mr. Strasenburgh, having been lost overboard.
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Publication:Newcastle Journal
Publication date:Wednesday 15 October 1862
Article text:" Lost at sea, on the 24th ult,, aged 39, Captain F. Strasenburgh, who was washed off the deck of the brig Lawsons, when eleven miles from Cronstadt."
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Thank you so much for that information.
many thanks
RICHARD
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Hi
could you possibly tell me how i could obtain a copy of this article
regards
RICHARD
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I cannot find an official death at sea for him. However he was captain of the LAWSONS in 1862
His certificate number was 7512. If you have ancestry there should be details there. If not copies on Micro film at TNA piece BT122/9
The brig LAWSONS was built in Sunderland in 1837. Official number 22910 244 tons owned by Nicholas Grey, Church Row, South Shields.
Her logbooks and crew agreements for 1862 will be at NMM Greenwich if anywhere. You can obtain
with this form.
http://www.rmg.co.uk/researchers/library/crew-lists-agreements-and-official-logs-request-form
He should also have records in Lloyds Captains Register held by London Metropolitan Archive. Should give his entire seagoingcareer as Master and Mate.
It would appear that LAWSONS was a regular trader to the Baltic.
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HI seaweed
thanks for that information---very much appreciated.
With regards to the brig lawsons could you tell me where information regards to her baltic visits etc are available
best regards
RICHARD
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Lloyd's register of shipping 1861 & 1862 have your ancestor as captain of LAWSONS undertaking Baltic voyages.
The logbooks from NMM will give precise details.
Also a newspaper search may give details
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Looking for information on Master Mariner Isaac Clampitt b 1771 from Bovey Tracy Devon moved to Parkgate Wirral Cheshire by 1799 any listings please.
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I am actually living in the same house as this man! i have been doing research on the house and the residents before moving here, and him and harriet clampet lived here it is saying! i have a friend that lives in the 7 steps along on parkgate front and she has all the information about everyone who has lived on the front and both of them lived here! have you found out anymore information on him?
cheers em x
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Emma how wonderful is that.
I and the Clampitt families would be most interested in what you have found out. Also any further info that your friend has. Any secret tunnels in the house how many stories high?
The Clampitts married into local families Pemberton and Pollard are 2 that come to mind without looking at my tree.
He is my 4x grandfather. He came from Bovey Tracey in Devon. His wife was from Parkgate. Harriet was unmarried and Kate/Catherine who lived in the "Lodging house" with her was married twice.
Another daughter of Isaac's Mary Anne was my 3x grandmother. She married the boy next door but one? (I assume, maybe you can tell me? please) who lived in the Red Lion with his parents and brother Lee Wood who later took over the running of the pub from his father John Wood.
I am really looking forward to what you have and if at all I will share with you what I have.
Many thanks Collette
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Hello Richard,
There are 9 hits for your man in the Sound Tolls Registers database paying a tax to the Danish crown.
Here is a description of the database:
"The Sound Toll Registers (STR) are the accounts of the toll which the king of Denmark levied on the shipping through the Sound, the strait between Sweden and Denmark. They have been conserved (with gaps in the first decades) for the period from 1497 to 1857, when the toll was abolished. From 1574 on, the series is almost complete.
The STR are being kept by the Danish National Archives (Rigsarkivet) in Copenhagen.
The STR contain data on 1.8 million passages. The officials of the tollhouse at Elsinore recorded of each passage in principle the following data:
the date
the name of the shipmaster
the domicile of the shipmaster
the port of departure
the port of destination (from the mid-1660s)
the composition of the cargo
the toll"
Go to this link:
http://dietrich.soundtoll.nl/public/names.php?start=S (http://dietrich.soundtoll.nl/public/names.php?start=S)
Scroll way down the right hand column to find 8 hits under the spelling "Strasenburgh" and 1 under the spelling "Straseburgh".
Click on each spelling to get the list of hits. Pay no attention to some of them having first initial "T" because in the images I looked at, I think they are all mistranscriptions of "F" for Frederick.
Click on the round orange icon beside each date to get the transcription.
Click on the image link to see the actual page of the register.
Many of the commodities are easy to translate even though they are written in Danish e.g. "kul" = "coal". And you can always use Google Translate.
Unfortunately vessel names are not given, but isn't it a thrill to be able to accurately place your ancestor in a specific spot on a specific day?
Cheers,
Westoe
EDIT: You can cross-reference those sound toll registers by date with the vessel names in the "SOUND LIST" columns of the newspapers.
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More for Richard,
Both GEM and LAWSONS have entries in Richard Keys' valuable reference work "Dictionary of Tyne Sailing Ships". They give Official Numbers, dimensions and potted history. Here they are. Note the misspelling of your man's surname in the one for GEM, where co-incidentally our interests cross - one of my ancestors owned her at an earlier date.
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Had to start another reply for LAWSONS as image too large to post with GEM.
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Hello Richard,
AMAZON is another vessel you should be considering for your ancestor despite the spelling of the master's surname. I suggest it because there is an ownership connexion to the brig GEM. Here's a newspaper snippett for her. Her Official Number was 24,701.
EDIT: Yes, Bingo! lots of hits in the newspapers for him under the spelling Strasenburg - as master of GEM, of AMAZON and of LAWSONS.
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After a long absence i have finally found time to view these replies.
May i say thank you to all of you who have contributed with this information.
very much appreciated
kindest regards
Richie