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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Shropshire => Topic started by: robinhelstrom88 on Thursday 20 February 14 04:32 GMT (UK)
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Hi there,
I am curious to find out if anyone is able to tell me anything about Thomas Parry Heighway b. 1811 in Clun, Shropshire, England. I have been able to locate him in 1851, 1871, and 1881 census and he lived at Cockford Hall for a number of those censuses.
I have been able to located children: Thomas F. Heighway, William Henry Heighway, Mary Heighway, Elizabeth Heighway, and Richard Heighway but have not been able to find reference to a wife anywhere or any parents for that matter.
My connection is through his son William who married a Mary, last name unknown, and had children: Thomas Parry, Elizabeth Mary, and Martha Sophia. They eventually wound up in the Aymestry, Herefordshire area before Elizabeth married Richard Neighbour and immigrated to Canada. Not having a lot of luck going forward on those left in ENG either.
Would appreciate meeting up with any family or interested parties as I have lots of info to share on all the family here in Canada!
Robin
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Hi it is interesting therefore re no wife, that not only on the 1851 census, but also on the 1841 HO107/919/ 1/28 / 16 he has in the household as housekeeper a Martha Francis!
Keyboard86
PS in the case of the 1851, I note all the children have a middle initial "F" I think all the births re Freebmd will be surname Frances/Francis possibly?
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Hi again, Thomas Parry Heighway was not born in Clun, he resided there, here is his baptism:-
Thomas Parry Heighway baptised 1st October 1810 Llandinam, Montgomeryshire Father Thomas Heighway of Clunn and wife Mary
His parents married 23rd September 1808 Llandinam Mary was a Mary Tilsley ( she had a middle name which could possibly be something like Tobias)??
I have found a possibe baptism for Mary as Mary Sobieski or Tobieski Tilsley 15th April 1789 Aberhafesp, Montgomeryshire Father John occ Reverend Mother Mary (John I believe was the Vicar of Lllandinam)
Also how/where the Parry middle name originated:-
Baptism John Parry Tilsley 28th July 1791 St Llonio. Llandinam Father John occ Reverend Mother Mary
Keyboard86
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Hi again, I think William knew just what the relationship was between Thomas Heighway and Martha Francis, as this is his marriage:-
William Heighway Francis to Mary Jones Dec qtr 1875 Kington 6a 1147
Keyboard86
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Hi again, another family member who knew!
Marriage Mary Heighway Francis to William Lloyd March qtr 1870 Clun 6a 827
1871 Census
William Lloyd 26 occ Tailor b Bettws, Shropshire
Mary 23 b Clun
Thomas P H 1 month b Beguildy, Radnorshire
John Evans 13 Nephew occ Tailor b Bettws
Residing at Duthlass Cottage, Beguildy Pennant, Knighton, Radnorshire
Census Ref RG10/5596/77/10
Birth Thomas Parry H Lloyd March qtr 1871 Knighton 11b 162
1881 Census
William Lloyd 36 occ Farmer of 40 acres employing 1 man b Bettws
Mary 33 b Clun
Alfred William 6 b Bettws
Richard Thomas 2 b Bettws
Tilsley 7 months (son) b Bettws
Residing at Episcopal Church House, Bettws, Knighton
Census Ref RG11/5473/20/6
Keyboard86
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Hi again, and another:-
Marriage Thomas Heighway Francis to Elizabeth Childe Sept qtr 1883 Clun 6a 979
1891 Census
Thomas Heighway 46 occ Farmer b Clun
Elizabeth 47 b Clun
Plus 3 Servants
Residing at The Hall, School Road, Clun
Census Ref RG12/2085/18/29
On the next 2 census returns, Elizabeth appears on her own/married, this could be why:-
Departure 24th May 1894 Liverpool to Quebec on SS Sardinian Thomas Heighway Married aged 49 occ Lab
Departure 9th June 1917 Liverpool to Quebec on SS Scandinavian Thomas Heighway aged 73 occ Gardener
Keyboard86
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Hi last bit, will leave you to search a bit!
1841 Census for parents of Thomas Heighway!
Thomas Heighway 55 occ Independent
Mary 50 Not born in County
Harriot 20
Hester 15
Catherine 10
Residing at Church Street, Clun
Census Ref HO107/919/ 1/26 / 12
Baptism Catherine Isabella Heighway 18th July 1827 Father Thomas Mother Mary Sobieski
Marriage Hester Tilsley Heighway to John Frederick Parker Sept qtr 1846 Monmouth v26 page 96
1851 Census
John Fredk Parker 30 occ Manufacturer of Silver Plated Ware
Hester T 27 b Clun
John T H 3 b Birmingham
Hester T H 6 months b Birmingham
Catherine I Heighway 23 Sister in Law b Clun
Residing at Hunters Lane, Aston, Aston Manor, Warwickshire
Birth Hester Tilsley Heighway Parker Sept qtr 1850 Kings Norton v18 page 418
In 1861 Hester Parker is being visited by Harriett Heighway 41 b Clun
Census Ref RG09/2165/113/36
Keyboard86
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Martha FRANCIS Christened 16 April 1815, Bettus, Shropshire
Parents WILLIAM/MARTHA
Siblings;
ELIZABETH, 4 April 1817
HANNAH, 28 Nov 1819
There are other possible Children to them but not in Bettus, but Clun;
JANE, 12 Feb 1809
ANNE, 30 Dec 1810
Possible Marriage;
William FRANCIS Married Martha HAMAR, 18 Apr 1808, Clun, Shropshire
All on Familysearch.Org
Census Keyboard noted;
1841 Census
Cockford Hall,
Clun, Shropshire
HO107/919/1/Clun
Thomas HEIGHBURY, 30, Farmer, NOT born in County
Martha FRANCIS, 25, F.S, born IN County
+ other Servants
So was Thomas indexed twice, at Home with Wife and then at the Farm with Martha?
Trish :)
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Sorry I made a big mistake, it was late at night is my excuse.
Thomas wasnt indexed twice the 1841 with Martha Francis is the correct one. The other is his Parents :-[
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;D Catherine Isabella HIGHWAY/HIGHAWAY marries I believe John Price in March qtr 1856 Aston 6d 221 cant find them after?
Harriett the other sister dies in Aston aged 48
And where Richard c 1860 and Elizabeth b c 1850 are after 1891 with Thomas P Heighway aged 80 is a puzzle?
Census ref RG12/2085/14/22
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Oh my god! Thanks so much guys lol. Since I started this hobby in high school I have always got so much help from message boards I'm always amazed. I will take some time to take a look over this and see if I can expand.
It it is so greatly appreciated as this has been a ancestor that has stumped the hell out of me for a very long time.
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William and Mary were my great great grandparents (I have a photo of the two of them). I couldn't find any details of Mary's mother. I know her father was Thomas Heighway and, like all her siblings, she had a middle initial F. There was a maid in the house called Martha Francis. Can't find any details of her mother. The is a story in the family that her mother was one of two sisters that came from Europe - possibly Poland or Scandinavia. Interested to speak with anyone who can shed some light.
Hi again, another family member who knew!
Marriage Mary Heighway Francis to William Lloyd March qtr 1870 Clun 6a 827
1871 Census
William Lloyd 26 occ Tailor b Bettws, Shropshire
Mary 23 b Clun
Thomas P H 1 month b Beguildy, Radnorshire
John Evans 13 Nephew occ Tailor b Bettws
Residing at Duthlass Cottage, Beguildy Pennant, Knighton, Radnorshire
Census Ref RG10/5596/77/10
Birth Thomas Parry H Lloyd March qtr 1871 Knighton 11b 162
1881 Census
William Lloyd 36 occ Farmer of 40 acres employing 1 man b Bettws
Mary 33 b Clun
Alfred William 6 b Bettws
Richard Thomas 2 b Bettws
Tilsley 7 months (son) b Bettws
Residing at Episcopal Church House, Bettws, Knighton
Census Ref RG11/5473/20/6
Keyboard86
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Hello ML,
The email address we have for robindudgeon88, has stopped working.
I have contacted her twice via her facebook but no reply (pages are still being updated so she is still active)
Sorry I can not help further.
Regards
Sarah
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Sorry it's been a while since I've checked back. I got married last year and changed my email address (finally) but I've since updated my profile again with a working address. :)
ML123 I wish I had more information to share with you but they are all new to me. I'll keep plugging along when I've got the time and see what I can find. Here's crossing my fingers.
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Martha FRANCIS Christened 16 April 1815, Bettus, Shropshire
Parents WILLIAM/MARTHA
Siblings;
ELIZABETH, 4 April 1817
HANNAH, 28 Nov 1819
There are other possible Children to them but not in Bettus, but Clun;
JANE, 12 Feb 1809
ANNE, 30 Dec 1810
Possible Marriage;
William FRANCIS Married Martha HAMAR, 18 Apr 1808, Clun, Shropshire
All on Familysearch.Org
Census Keyboard noted;
1841 Census
Cockford Hall,
Clun, Shropshire
HO107/919/1/Clun
Thomas HEIGHBURY, 30, Farmer, NOT born in County
Martha FRANCIS, 25, F.S, born IN County
+ other Servants
So was Thomas indexed twice, at Home with Wife and then at the Farm with Martha?
Trish :)
Hi ML 123, and welcome to Rootschat, the link above would appear to show the baptism of the mother of Mary Heighway Francis who married William Lloyd:-
Marriage 23rd March 1870 Clun & Bryn
William Lloyd 26 Batchelor occ Tailor Abode Duthlaes Father George Lloyd occ Farmer
Mary Heighway Francis 22 Spinster abode The Hall No father shown
Witnessses Thos P Heighway & John Chilwick?
Keyboard86
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Hi,
Been such a long time since I checked here. Thanks for the reply. Will continue looking into the history again.