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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Kincardineshire => Topic started by: Rosinish on Monday 21 July 14 12:56 BST (UK)
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Reading an 1841 census on Ancestry:
Civil Parish: Fettercairn
County: Kincardineshire
Address: Dillaty
Can anyone tell me what this should read please ?
I have scrolled this:
http://www.britishplacenames.co.uk/alphabetically/D
but can't find an answer ???
Annie
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Was this from the transcription? Have you considered buying some credits from Scotland's People and looking at the image yourself? And if you are unable to make sense of the place name, you can post it here for us all to take a stab at. :)
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What was the person in question's occupation? I was just looking at an old map of the area and noticed a Distillery. ;D
It starts with a D and ends with a y and has a couple of lls in the middle. ;D
I can't see anything else that looks promising ....
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There is a Delalie - which looks like a farmstead and there's also an area called Bogs of Delalie. I am not sure of parish boundaries if Fettercairn is the parish but this is a way away from the town of Fettercairn.
No Delalie on a map of today but it was just west of Croftangry Wood, with Bogs of Delalie just north of Delalie.
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Hi Ruskie,
Man of the house was a Farmer.
I haven't used SP as I'm only rummaging around at the moment ::)
My gg grandfather David Hogg has the name "Morris" as a middle name which I have never been able to identify with anyone yet as I don't have a birth for his father or mother. His father was Scottish, mother English & by deduction, Morris is a Scottish name, so maybe his paternal grandmother was a "Morris"
I am just about to look at "Freecen" to see what it lists as the placename.
I am just looking for the name Morris in that area to see if there is a David in any of them as the name David is only held by my gg grandad & not been followed down the line. It isn't such a popular name either in terms so thought a bit of digging around is worth the effort for any clues, hopefully ??
Annie
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Hi ,
FreeCen transcription has it as DILLAY.
Household addresses before it are Bogondollo , and after Balnakettle.
An 1880's map has a Delalie(hard to read) near Bogendollo and Balnakettle.
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/
ev
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There is a Delalie - which looks like a farmstead and there's also an area called Bogs of Delalie. I am not sure of parish boundaries if Fettercairn is the parish but this is a way away from the town of Fettercairn.
Ruskie, That sure would fit with the Farmer.
My David was a Joiner & his father James was a Draper. James died prior to 1855 which makes things a bit trickier :-(
Annie
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Hi ,
FreeCen transcription has it as DILLAY.
Household addresses before it are Bogondollo , and after Balnakettle.
An 1880's map has a Delalie(hard to read) near Bogendollo and Balnakettle.
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/
Thanks Ev, will have a look here. Pity the census don't give more precise details for us noseyparkers. It's like Orienteering but fun !!! :-)
Sadly my ggg grandad died approx. 34 yrs old with only 2 kids, John & David
Annie
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In case Delalie is correct, look at google maps and locate Thainston.
Delalie is up a long track which you can clearly see running NW of Thainston.
If you put the little man down on the road you can just about see the farm buildings at the end of the pathway. And yes, it is farmland - very beautiful.
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Hi ,
FreeCen transcription has it as DILLAY.
Household addresses before it are Bogondollo , and after Balnakettle.
An 1880's map has a Delalie(hard to read) near Bogendollo and Balnakettle.
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/
ev
Yes I can see a Wood of Balnakettle right beside Thainston. :)
Just having another look. I think I got the location of Delalie wrong. What I located as Delalie is actually Upper Thaneston. What is now Thainston on a modern map was called Nether Thaneston.
I will have a closer look for Delalie, but sadly I think it has gone.
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I think Bogondollo is Bogs of Delalie. ;)
Good news is that I have found Delalie, and Mr Google has driven his truck all the way up the driveway to the farmhouse. You can just make it out behind the trees. The driveway to Delali runs in a NW direction parallel to the driveway up to Upper Thaneston but the Delalie drive is further to the east. An idyllic location.
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Ruskie,
Can you post me the link please as I have trouble getting google earth ::)
I wonder if this is the same or part of ?
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-30105567.html
Annie
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Amazing what you learn. I didn't know Fettercairn came under Laurencekirk !!!
I need to do some Autoroute A to B journeys ::)
My areas (which I have sources for) are Stonehaven & Market Square, Fetteresso so need to find Hogg/Morris in those areas.
I have a (possible) date of 1844 for my James' death in Gateshead, Durham which I am just about to order which will give only his father's name sadly :(
Annie
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I wonder if this is the same or part of ?
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-30105567.html
Annie
£295 000. I'll take it!
Yes, it could be the same place. House is largely hidden by trees on google maps, but I can make out a roofless barn or other dwelling which can also be seen in this ad.
Will try to send a link.
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Hope this works:
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ll=56.8699917,-2.6050837&z=15&q=Fettercairn,+Laurencekirk,+Aberdeenshire+AB30&output=classic&dg=opt
And yes, it does look like the house for sale. :) By the way, the location of the house which the estate agents have marked on the map is incorrect.
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Cheers Ruskie,
I hope none of that family are reading this post as I don't even know if they are connected to my family yet...............the joys of detection ;D
Lovely place I have to admit !!! :o
Annie
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Delalie Fettercairn AB30 .Strutt and Parker are currently selling this property which is a traditional small farnhouse cottage of the type built in North EasrtScotland from 1850 onwards. There would most likely have been an older settlement here.
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The National Library of Scotland maps website will give you free access to old maps of the area. If you look under "Series" maps you will find large scale 19th century Ordnance Survey ones. When you get to the old map, there is a slider which allows you to change it to and from a satellite image or modern map.
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Don't know what I'm doing wrong but keep getting "No results" ??? ::)
Annie
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Don't know what I'm doing wrong but keep getting "No results" ??? ::)
Annie
No results on the old NLS maps or google maps?
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NLS maps. Couldn't get your link to open :-(
Annie
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NLS maps. Couldn't get your link to open :-(
Annie
My reply at #14 is a link to google maps. I just clicked on it and it opened fine. :-\ Delalie is just to the left of the words Croftangry Wood - at the end of the long track surrounded by dry looking fields - you will see a green area at the end of the track. That is Delalie.
Delalie Fettercairn AB30 .Strutt and Parker are currently selling this property which is a traditional small farnhouse cottage of the type built in North EasrtScotland from 1850 onwards. There would most likely have been an older settlement here.
That makes sense.
There is at least one building which is roofless and possibly in ruins so perhaps that was the old farmhouse. Or maybe a new house was built, possibly materials from the old farmhouse.
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Ev,
I managed to get the link to open on both threads. I use a dongle & if signal isn't good or too many things open, it cuts out all the time.
Thanks for your help :)
Annie
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I am not in a position to purchase Delalie. You should buy it Annie! ;D
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Hi
A Google book "A General View of Kincardineshire or The Mearns" by George Robertson gives a lovely flavour of the area and an idea of locations. You can read it online and search for Dallidies or Balnakettle.
Valerie
PS A kettle is a geographical feature, bit like a mini ravine where there was once a glacier
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I am not in a position to purchase Delalie. You should buy it Annie! ;D
Much the same but no harm in wishing :-)
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Hi
A Google book "A General View of Kincardineshire or The Mearns" by George Robertson gives a lovely flavour of the area and an idea of locations. You can read it online and search for Dallidies or Balnakettle.
Valerie
PS A kettle is a geographical feature, bit like a mini ravine where there was once a glacier
A good read & in laymens terms !!!
I live near Kingskettle & Kettlebridge :)
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Hello Folks,
I'm the new owner of Delalie Farm House. Took a while for the sale to go through as we were dealing with various members of the Gladstone family and represenatives of the estate, but its done now.
The scope of work at the house is.....extensive.
1st thing is getting the building wind and water tight.
If anyone has any info on the house that would be great, all we know at present is its on maps from 1826 showing the trees already established.
Certainly the original two room building and one of the steadings are very old, with the use of wooden pins instead of nails!
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Regards
Malky
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Welcome Motorhead! So you bought my house I see. ;D
What are your plans for the place? (I hope you will retain it's character).
Will you live there?
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If it isn't any of those suggested above, there is a farm by the name of Dalladies, just a mile or so north of Stracathro, but on the Kincardine side of the River North Esk in Fettercairn parish.
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Thanks Wolseley,
I am no further forward regarding family ties with this area but hoping to eventually hit on a link :-/
However, I have plenty info. now to consider on this thread if/when the time comes :-)
Annie