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Title: James McKenna & Mary Trainor, (Trainer or Traynor) (b: 1821/ 1822 Monaghan)
Post by: danmckenna1961 on Wednesday 06 August 14 06:14 BST (UK)
Help, I am stuck need help locating information about their parents:
James McKenna (b: 1821 in Monaghan, Ireland) & (d: 1881 Fort Augustus, PEI)
his wife Mary (Catherine) Trainor, (Trainer or Traynor) possibly born in Ireland in 1822, died in Fort Augustus, PEI.
Their Children:
Joseph McKenna (b: abt 1851 Ireland)
Susan McKenna (b: 15 July 1852 Ireland or PEI)
Catherine McKenna (b: 1858 in PEI)
Mary McKenna (b: 1860 in PEI)
Patrick J McKenna (b: 04 Aug 1853 in PEI) & (d: 24 Nov 1940 Fort Augustus, PEI / Hallifax NS), possibly died in WWII.......married 27 Aug 1889 to Margaret Kelly (b: 11 Dec 1862 - d: 1954 in Fort Augustus, PEI)
Title: Re: James McKenna & Mary Trainor, (Trainer or Traynor) (b: 1821/ 1822 Monaghan)
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Wednesday 13 August 14 19:29 BST (UK)
There are 751 entries for McKenna in monaghan in HomeSearch the Tithe Applotment Books http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie
Search results: Displaying results 1 - 10 of 761
Sort by: RelevanceSurnameForenameTownland or CityParishCountyYear
Surname   Forename   Townland/Street   Parish   County   Year
Mckenna   Anne   Corvackan   Aghnamullen   Monaghan   1829
Mckenna   Jno   Corvackan   Aghnamullen   Monaghan   1829

There are 88 entries in case his father was called James
There are 3  trainer entries
There are 66  trainor entries
There are 47 traynor entries

Your only hope is to find a church record for their birth/baptism/christening or the marriage or one of their children   Cant help further, try to find a county board here or elsewhere.
lots of luck to break through
JimG
Title: Re: James McKenna & Mary Trainor, (Trainer or Traynor) (b: 1821/ 1822 Monaghan)
Post by: danmckenna1961 on Sunday 21 January 18 21:13 GMT (UK)
Update to this post, which I placed quite awhile ago.
James McKenna (1820 Donagh, Monaghan, Ireland - 11 Jan 1881 Fort Augustus, PEI, Canada)
Spouse: Mary Trainor (1822 Ireland - 28 Jun 1896 Fort Augustus, PEI, Canada)

Sibling; Hugh McKenna (1818 Ireland - 17 Dec 1881 Fort Augustus, PEI, Canada)
Spouse: Ellen McGaughey /McHany / McHaby (1820 Ireland - 21 Jan 1891 Fort Augustus, PEI, Canada)

Genealogist claims parents
Patrick McKenna (1801 Femanagh, Ireland - 15 Jun 1890 Fort Augustus, PEI, Canada)
Unknown spouse died about 1831 in Ireland

Possible brother:
Peter McKenna (1825 Ireland - unknown)
Spouse: Rose Burns (Byrnes)

Possible Half Siblings:
Parents: Patrick & Alice (unknown)
Francis McKenna & Agnes King
Patrick McKenna & Bridget McCullough

1881 Census lists the 3 below with parents Patrick & Alice, the census does not list relationships
1891 Census Lists the 3 below as siblings
John McKenna 1840
Ellen McKenna 1844
Catherine (Kitty Ann / Katia) 1874) mother (Alice) would have been 58 yrs old when born.
Could she be a child of John & Ellen, and the census marked incorrectly?

Looking for any descendants of brother Peter or the half siblings, and with luck a dna test to help confirm, these theories as I have not seen anything to support the claim.
Title: Re: James McKenna & Mary Trainor, (Trainer or Traynor) (b: 1821/ 1822 Monaghan)
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 21 January 18 21:44 GMT (UK)
It's the McKenna Clan you'd really need to ask....  http://clannmackenna.ie/
Title: Re: James McKenna & Mary Trainor, (Trainer or Traynor) (b: 1821/ 1822 Monaghan)
Post by: scooper200 on Sunday 21 January 18 23:04 GMT (UK)
Hi, Dan. I'm following the PEI Mckennas also. Specifically I am looking for a connection between my wife's Great Grandmother, Mary Kate McKenna (Carbonear and Bonavista Bay, Newfoundland), and an Ellen McKenna of Vernon River, PEI. Not much help to you I know but I thought I'd share just in case. All the best.

Frank Walsh
Title: Re: James McKenna & Mary Trainor, (Trainer or Traynor) (b: 1821/ 1822 Monaghan)
Post by: annclare on Monday 22 January 18 17:23 GMT (UK)
These may be of interest or not.
Date of Marriage:   28-Jan-1842       
Parish / District:   Errigal Truagh      County:   Co. Monaghan
Husband      Wife
Name:   James   McKenna      Mary   Treanor
Address:   Errigal Truagh (No Townland Listed)      Errigal Truagh (No Townland Listed         
Witness 1      Witness 2
Name:   Patrick   McKenna      Patrick   Tranor
Banns dispensed. Priest: Rev. Paul McCusker CC.

Date of Marriage:   09-May-1836       
Parish / District:   Donagh      County:   Co. Monaghan
Husband      Wife
Name:   James   McKenna      Mary   Treanor
Address:   Donagh Parish      Donagh Parish         
Witness 1      Witness 2
Name:               
Address:         
Notes:
6/6 paid. Banns dispensed.

Name:   John McKenna   Date of Birth:   0not liste
        Date of Baptism:   27-Nov-1864
Address:   Knockcor   Parish/District:   Tydavnet
Gender:   M   County   Co. Monaghan
Denomination:   [not Listed]
Father:   James McKenna   Mother:   Mary Traynor
Occupation:   [not Listed]      [not Listed]
Sponsor 1 /   John Moan
Sponsor 2 /   Sarah Traynor
      
Title: Re: James McKenna & Mary Trainor, (Trainer or Traynor) (b: 1821/ 1822 Monaghan)
Post by: danmckenna1961 on Tuesday 23 January 18 03:08 GMT (UK)
Thank You All for the help.

Ann,
The 3 that you posted:
the first one married in 1836, would be to early for marriage
putting them at about 16 & 14 yrs old.
But the parish is a perfect match

The marriage in 1842 is more interesting, however their first child
was born in 1851 in PEI, Canada. I also believe they were in PEI, Canada at that time.
However I will keep a copy and Thank You for your efforts.
Let me know if anyone needs any help, will try to return the favor.
Dan McKenna
Title: Re: James McKenna & Mary Trainor, (Trainer or Traynor) (b: 1821/ 1822 Monaghan)
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 23 January 18 11:53 GMT (UK)
It's the McKenna Clan you'd really need to ask....  http://clannmackenna.ie/
Title: Re: James McKenna & Mary Trainor, (Trainer or Traynor) (b: 1821/ 1822 Monaghan)
Post by: danmckenna1961 on Tuesday 23 January 18 13:27 GMT (UK)
Frank,
Have you done a dna test yet?
Title: Re: James McKenna & Mary Trainor, (Trainer or Traynor) (b: 1821/ 1822 Monaghan)
Post by: scooper200 on Friday 26 January 18 00:27 GMT (UK)
Yes, Dan. I have done a YDNA test. However the McKennas (or, as they sometimes called themselves, Kennaugh) are related through my wife's family. My daughter has had her atDNA done but no McKenna matches. My wife's Great Grandmother, Mary Catherine McKenna, is a total mystery except that she was somehow connected to the McKennas of Vernon River, PEI. No luck so far tracing her.
Title: Re: James McKenna & Mary Trainor, (Trainer or Traynor) (b: 1821/ 1822 Monaghan)
Post by: danmckenna1961 on Friday 26 January 18 04:50 GMT (UK)
Frank would love to check her kit vs mine and look for anyone that maybe common to both.
We may have a small match as sometimes you don't inherit as much from one parent or grandparent as the other.
My test was with FTDNA, and I am also on Gedmatch.

Dan
danmckenna1961@gmail.com
Title: Re: James McKenna & Mary Trainor, (Trainer or Traynor) (b: 1821/ 1822 Monaghan)
Post by: scooper200 on Friday 26 January 18 15:15 GMT (UK)
My daughter has a match (4th cousin to remote cousin) with a Margaret McKenna on FTDNA but no information is provided by the match. The match is 32 cM with an X Match.
Title: Re: James McKenna & Mary Trainor, (Trainer or Traynor) (b: 1821/ 1822 Monaghan)
Post by: scooper200 on Friday 26 January 18 15:40 GMT (UK)
Dan: If you want to compare your kit with my daughter's, I would see if she's agreeable, if you wish.