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Title: Webster family of artists
Post by: witchill on Sunday 17 August 14 00:20 BST (UK): Hello everyone, This is my first attempt on this site, it would be wonderful if someone could help me with some info. I am researching my great grandfather Alexander Webster from Fraserburgh c1841-1913. One of his daughters Elizabeth (1870-1949) was my grandmother, but I would love to find out a little of his other children - Alexander, William, John, Elsie, Frederick, Peter and Gordon all born in Fraserburgh. He was an artist as it seems were all of his family.
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: gortonboy on Sunday 17 August 14 00:29 BST (UK): hi,,the censuses show he was a Painter,,not an artist...one census describes him as "house painter". ;)
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: witchill on Sunday 17 August 14 00:38 BST (UK): Yes, he was a house painter/decorator, but also quite a well known artist both in NE Scotland and America, as it seems were some of the sons, which makes me wonder if some of the family emigrated to America. :)
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: Speckle22 on Friday 27 January 17 09:11 GMT (UK): Hi witchell

I am the great great granddaughter of gordon webster. We are looking into our tree now. My understanding was alexander was a landscape painter. So was one of his sons. I had heard something about someone emigrating to usa. Also that one of them died falling into the sea whilst trying to paint on the rocks. There are a number of alexanders throughout the family. Gordon goes on to fight in the wars in the navy and apparently survived a shipwreck. Its all a bit uncertain at the moment as im getting this info third hand and not got the full story at the moment. Any info you have would also be greatly appreciated
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 10:23 GMT (UK): Hi,

Welcome to RootsChat

Apologises to Witchell who doesn't seem to have had a proper RootsChat welcome.

Is this the family you mean on the 1871 Census 67 Bread Street Fraserburgh

Alexander Webster 29 Painter (emaster employing one apprentice)
Elizabeth Webster 25
Alexander Webster 6
William Webster 3
John Webster 2
Elizabeth Webster 1

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 10:25 GMT (UK): 1881 Fraserburgh Scotland

Alexander Webster 39 Painter (Master employing 1 man and 1 boy)
Elizabeth Webster 35
Alexander Webster 16 Painter App.
William Webster   13 John Webster   12 Elizabeth Webster 11
Elsie W Webster   8 Frederick Webster   6 Peter S Webster   4 Gordon B Webster   2
Mary Mackie   50
William Webster   16
Elizabeth Mackie   43

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 10:28 GMT (UK): 1891 Victoria St Argyle Cot Fraserburgh Aberdeenshire

Alexander Webster 49 House Painter.
Elizabeth Webster 45
John Webster   22 Painter. - Elsie W Webster   18
Frederick Webster 16 Painter. - Peter S Webster   14
Gordon D Webster 12 - Lawrence McL Webster 4
William M Stewart   29
Elizabeth M Stewart   21

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 10:31 GMT (UK): 61 Saltoun Pl Fraserburgh, Aberdeenshire - 1901

Alexr Webster   36 House Painter.
Mary Webster   28
Alexander S Webster   1 Month

1930 census South Bonnie Ave Pasadena Los Angeles California.

Alexander Webster 66 Born Scotland. Imm 1922. Painter.
Mary Webster   56 Born Scotland. Imm 1922. Alien.
Alexander Webster 28 Born 1902 Scotland. Bookkeeper.

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 10:36 GMT (UK): Alexander Webster born 1866 Fraserburgh appears on a New York passenger List - SS Baltic - departing Liverpool arriving New York 24 July 1911.
Wife Mary - 28 Chadwick Street Fraserburgh - going to brother Peter Webster 3 Bath Street Atlanta Georgia. Had been in USA previously in Ohio 1893/1894.

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 10:40 GMT (UK): New York Passenger List - Alexander webster - born 1866 Fraserburgh Scotland- aged 56 years - arriving New York 5 November 1922 - SS Columbia - also travelling wife Mary aged 50 years - Son Alexander Scott Webster - aged 21 years - law clerk - brother in law William Stewart - Plummer - Victoria Street Fraserburgh - the family going to Massachusetts. Going to niece Mrs Elsie McWilliams, 1 Intervale Street Massachusetts.

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 10:50 GMT (UK): UK Return Passenger List - 29 May 1932 - Montreal Quebec to Glasgow shows Alexander Webster aged 65 years, occupation decorator and Mary aged 55 years - going to College bounds Fraserburgh - Intended future residence Scotland.

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 10:57 GMT (UK): Atlanta Ward 3, Fulton, Georgia 1910

Peter S Webster   33 Born Scotland. Painter. Alien.
Isabella S Webster 30
Bella Webster 1 year and 1 month.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RNR-FZM?mode=g&i=27&cc=1727033

Atlanta Ward 3, Fulton, Georgia 1920

Peter S Webster   42 Born Scotland. Immigrated 1908. Decorator.
Isabella Webster   40 Born Scotland.
Isabella Webster   11 Born Georgia.
Alexander Webster 9 Born Georgia.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9R67-YL2?mode=g&i=26&cc=1488411

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 10:58 GMT (UK): Oakland Avenue Atlanta, Fulton, Georgia 1930

Peter S Webster   53 Born Scotland. Imm 1911. First papers. Interior Decorator. Paper & decorating company.
Isabella Webster   50
Bella S Webster   21
Alexander Webster 19

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9R4K-H1W?mode=g&i=15&cc=1810731

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 11:01 GMT (UK): Oakland Ave Se Atlanta, Fulton, Georgia 1940

Peter S Webster   63 Born Scotland. Interior Decorator.
Isabelle Webster   60
Bella Webster   31 Daughter. Widowed.
Alexander Webster 29

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9M1-CZV8?mode=g&i=4&cc=2000219

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 11:03 GMT (UK): U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 - Bella Scott Webster -
Bella Webster - 9 August 1908 - Atlanta, Fulton, Georgia - passed away 12 Jun 1995 - Father - Peter S Webster and Mother Isabelle W Simpson.

County of Residence: Baldwin - aged 86 years - Certificate: 025875

New York Passenger List for Bella Scott Webster - SS Caledonia - Glasgow to New York arriving 26 August 1932.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G5DB-SDK5?mode=g&i=468&cc=1923888

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 11:05 GMT (UK): Peter Scott Webster - 4 December 1876 passed away August 1969 - SSN issued Georgia (Before 1951) - Last Residence 30315 Atlanta, Fulton, Georgia.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V432-DQ5

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 11:08 GMT (UK): This looks like the death record for the son of Peter and Isabella - Alexander Webster - aged 85 years - passed away DeKalb - 25 February 1996 - Certificate 009351

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 11:17 GMT (UK): Peter Scott Webster - 4 Dec 1876 - Fraserburgh Scotland - USA Naturalization Petition date - 25 Feb 1927 - spouse Isabella - Painter/Decorator - resides 700 Oakland Avenue SE Atlanta Georgia - wife is Isabella born Fraserburgh Scotland.

WW1 Draft - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZZ3-W9V

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 11:44 GMT (UK): Isabella S Webster - passed away 8 September 1970 - aged 90 years - Fulton georgia
Certificate 029046

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V4ST-46B

Petition for citizenship 21 June 1932 Atlanta, Fulton, Georgia gave birth date 25 October 1879

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 11:55 GMT (UK): William Webster born 10 June 1867 - Fraserburgh,Aberdeen,Scotland - parents Alexander Webster
Mother Elizabeth Scott.

1901 Census Halifax Nova Scotia

William Webster   33 Born Scotland. Painter and Decorator. Immigrated 1890.
Emily M Webster 30 Born Nova Scotia 15 February 1870.
Marjory Webster   5 Born 20 February 1895 (birth record 15 feb 1896 Dartmouth Nova Scotia - middle name Scott)
Elcie Webster   3 Born 11 December 1897. Nova Scotia.
Blanche Webster   1 Born 22 April 1900. Nova Scotia.

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 11:57 GMT (UK): Blanche Webster born 1900 and aged 19 years, spinster - married 13 September 1919 - York Ontario.
Parents William Webster and Mother Emily Horn - spouse Victor L Brett - age 21 years - bachelor.

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 12:00 GMT (UK): FIND A GRAVE - Blanche D Webster Brett

Blanche D Brett - 22 April 1900 - 1 April 1973 -

Burial Park Lawn Cemetery Toronto Toronto Municipality Ontario

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=113337060&ref=acom

Victor L Brett 19 July 1898 - 9 November 1975

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=113337081

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 12:07 GMT (UK): 1921 Census 10 Stanley Place Halifax Nova Scotia

William Webster 54 Emily Webster 50
Douglas Webster 12 Born 1909 Nova Scotia.

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 12:15 GMT (UK): Douglas Gordon Webster - born 17 March 1909 90 Charles Street Halifax Nova Scotia - arriving Buffalo New York 7 July 1929 - Buffalo, New York, Father William Webster - going to Daytona Ohio.
There is another border crossing for 2 January 1938 which says Douglas was deported.

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 12:25 GMT (UK): William Scott Webster born 1867 passed away 14 November 1953 - Halifax Nova Scotia - Aged 86 year.

Canada Voters List 1949 shows W Scott Webster and Emily Webster - 65 Queen Street Halifax Nova Scotia.
Also living at that address was Mrs Elsie A Malcolm - Frank F Malcolm (doctor) Frederick W Malcolm (electrician) Miss Belulah Malcolm - Mrs Beverley Malcolm.

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 12:26 GMT (UK): Canadian Attestation Papers for Frank F Malcolm husband of Elsie nee webster

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=171676

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 12:42 GMT (UK): Elsie Watt Webster born 5 February 1873 - Fraserburgh,Aberdeen,Scotland.
Alexander Webster and Mother Elizabeth Scott.

1901 Census Elsie still with widowed father - 47 Dommerce St (no 3) Fraserburgh Scotland.

Alexander Webster 57 House Painter.
Elsa W Webster 28
Gordon D Webster 21 Plummer.
Laurance Mc L Webster 14 Watchmakers Apprentice.

Possible record for Elizabeth Webster (mother)

Elizabeth Webster - aged 49 years - 1895 - 196/ 150 - Fraserburgh

Possible for Alexander ???

Alexander Webster - 72 years - 1913 - 232/1 193 - Peterhead

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 13:07 GMT (UK): Lawrence McLay Webster - 1887 Fraserburgh –1941

Lawrence McLay Webster - M - 1886 - 196/ 160 - Fraserburgh

Lawrence McLay Webster - 54 years - 1941 - 168/1 29 - Aberdeen Northern District.

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: Speckle22 on Friday 27 January 17 13:15 GMT (UK): Thankyou so much sandra. This is all great x
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 January 17 13:20 GMT (UK): Pleased to be able to help. ;)

This from an ancestry tree

Elsie Watt Webster 1873–1953 - born 5 February 1873 - Fraserburgh, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
passed away 2 January 1953 - Boksburg, Gauteng, South Africa.

Married Robert Alexander Anderson 1870–1917
Born 15 November 1870 - Fraserburgh, Aberdeenshire, Scotland passed away 16 July 1917 - At sea - in WW1

Couple had 2 sons - Harold Webster Anderson - 1905–1955
born 13 February 1905 - Pretoria, Gauteng, South Africa passed away 5 APR 1955 - Benoni, Johannesburg, South Africa.

and William Webster Anderson 1913–1959
born 11 August 1913 - Germiston, Gauteng, South Africa passed away 15 February 1959 - Durban, KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa.

Sandra
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: dbree on Saturday 28 January 17 00:37 GMT (UK): Hi, and a Welcome from me too. ;D

Quote from: gortonboy on Sunday 17 August 14 00:29 BST (UK)
hi,,the censuses show he was a Painter,,not an artist...one census describes him as "house painter". ;)

A painter/house painter by day, but an artist by night. A census as informative as it is, doesn't
reveal all.....

At the Fraserburgh Library there is a reading room dedicated to the "Webster Family" of artists.
The plaque reads
"The room is named after a remarkable Fraserburgh family. Alexander Webster (1841-1913) was a painter and decorator to trade, but gained a reputation as a skilled painter of landscape and coastal scenes, in oils and water colours. At least six of his sons were to inherit his artistic skills......."

From a YouTube clip, you can see some of their art work at the Library, the plaque, and also a snippet of the family tree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB_QqOOw0xY
Cheers,
DB
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: dbree on Saturday 28 January 17 03:49 GMT (UK): Hi,

Just tagging along with Sandra's excellent work, :)

Nova Scotia, Canada
Using this link, add Webster, agree to terms and conditions, under counties add Halifax, to view
BMD's for your Webster's.
https://www.novascotiagenealogy.com/Start.aspx
Marjorie Scott Webster b. February 20, 1896, Dartmouth, N.S. late birth registration April 1957,(3 pages) parents William and Emily marries Arthur L. MacD Boutilier, soldier, parents Allan and Margaret, on Sept. 28, 1916, Halifax, Nova Scotia.

Find A Grave, Middle Stewiacke, Colchester, Nova Scotia
Lloyd (Arthur) MacD. Boutilier 1895-1972
Marjorie S. Boutilier 1896-1985
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=154929335&ref=acom

WW1 Attestion Papers and digitized service file for Lloyd Boutilier, b. May 23, 1895, Brighton
on-Trent, England, NOK Mrs. Marjorie Boutilier.
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=56706

Cheers,
DB
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: dbree on Saturday 28 January 17 04:46 GMT (UK): Hi,

Obituary for son of Lloyd and Marjorie Boutilier, David Maxwell Boutilier b. Feb. 5, 1924 d. Nov. 29, 2013 with photo
http://thechronicleherald.ca/obituaries/1172695-boutilier-david-maxwell

Find A Grave, Middle Stewiacke, Colchester, Nova Scotia
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jd6/

Cheers,
DB
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: Speckle22 on Saturday 28 January 17 12:05 GMT (UK): Hi thankyou so much. Interestingly my grandfather also called alexander (name was passed down) is an artist and has his pictures in his loval museum in hampshire. Funny how things follow through a family. Ive seen pictures on the internet but didnt know he had a segment for the faily in fraserburgh. Fantastic.
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: Gordonwebster on Wednesday 22 February 17 11:13 GMT (UK): Hi, My name is Gordon Webster. I am also descended from the Webster Fraserburgh Artists. Lawrence McLay Webster was my Grandfather. I would be happy to get in touch with any of the people on this forum. I am new to the forum and am still trying to find my way around. I have found this site to be extremely helpful in confirming some of the facts that I was unsure about and also for giving me much more information.
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: dbree on Wednesday 22 February 17 12:26 GMT (UK): Hi Gordon, and Welcome to Rootschat :)

The posters "witchill" and "speckle22" with the Webster family connection haven't been active recently, but I have sent them a PM (Personal Message) to advise them of your reply.

If you wish to contact either of them privately, you can use the Personal Message system. You need
to make one more post to activate yours. Then just click on the green (when active) scroll thingy under their names.

If you have any other questions about the Webster family, feel free to add onto this post and someone
should come along and try to help. Just a caution.. Rootschat has a "no living person" rule, no one
living can be named in a post. If you haven't already found it, this is the "How to use Rootschat"
post, which may be of help to you.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/how-to-use-rootschat/

Cheers, and enjoy the forum :)
DB
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: Gordonwebster on Wednesday 22 February 17 12:45 GMT (UK): Hi, Thanks for that. I'm not sure where the Fraser connection comes in, or was it perhaps just an error on your part.

Thnks again for your reply
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: dbree on Wednesday 22 February 17 12:50 GMT (UK): Hi,

Sorry, my mistake, just changed my post to read Webster, I was recently working on a Fraser family. ::) :P ;D

Cheers,
DB
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: Gordonwebster on Wednesday 22 February 17 12:53 GMT (UK): Thanks
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: Speckle22 on Wednesday 22 February 17 19:31 GMT (UK): Hello Gordon. Im a little lost with tracking the family. A family friend is doing it for us at the moment. Any info is great x
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: Windsor87 on Saturday 02 December 17 17:33 GMT (UK): I have acquired to my custody a portrait of a Fraserburgh Parish Minister (1861-87).

The rear of the canvas appears to have what looks like “A Webster” on the rear.

While I was aware that the Webster’s did landscape painting, is there any record of them as portrait painters?
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: witchill on Saturday 02 December 17 18:54 GMT (UK): Hi, yes Alexander WEBSTER Snr did indeed paint portraits. According to my father (his grandson) he was in great demand to paint portraits of the local skippers. I myself have a small portrait he did of my aunt who was his grand daughter.
Title: Re: Webster family of artists
Post by: Windsor87 on Saturday 02 December 17 19:00 GMT (UK): Excellent. I’ve always wanted a Webster. :-D

It’s a large portrait of Rev McLaren - probably the most powerful clergyman the town ever had.

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