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Research in Other Countries => South Africa => Topic started by: Candace Elliott on Friday 05 September 14 09:46 BST (UK)
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How does one search for family history in South Africa if you want to use that as a starting point ?
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Hello & welcome
You don't say which century but here is a good starting point:
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list/?page=1&countryId=1927115 (free)
http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry24 (pay per view)
Also you don't say which nationality but here's more:
http://www.sagenealogy.co.za/DataArchive.htm
http://www.cyndislist.com/south-africa/general/
http://www.ancestrysa.com/
http://southafricanfamilyhistory.com/
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The National Archives is another good place
http://www.national.archives.gov.za/naairs_content.htm
have a look at the South Africa board here for lots of great hints
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?board=291.0
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Trying to trace the Stammers family who lived in Port Elizabeth South Africa in 1967 but i really don't know where to start as the only name i have to start with is Sandra Lynn Stammers which would have been the maiden name and she was born on 25 August 1947 or 1949. But where i don't know all i know is she was in SA in 1967.
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Would you like me to see if there are any entries in the Telephone for Stammers in the PE area? Perhaps she had male siblings?
Regards
Patricia
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Another good source is www.identitynumber.org.
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Another good source is identitynumber.org facebook hack (http://www.fbforce.net/)
Hmm Thank you. I'll have a look at this website. :)
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May I suggest you read the Beginners Guide to SA Research at Mole's Genealogy Blog. Direct link is:
molegenealogy.blogspot.co.za/p/beginners-guide-to-south-african.html (http://molegenealogy.blogspot.co.za/p/beginners-guide-to-south-african.html)
The blog also offers a search facility, numerous lists taken from authoritative sources, and articles on many aspects on the topic of SA ancestry research. There is a comment form if you have queries or feedback.
Best Wishes,
Mole
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May I suggest you read the Beginners Guide to SA Research at Mole's Genealogy Blog. Direct link is:
molegenealogy.blogspot.co.za/p/beginners-guide-to-south-african.html (http://molegenealogy.blogspot.co.za/p/beginners-guide-to-south-african.html)
The blog also offers a search facility, numerous lists taken from authoritative sources, and articles on many aspects on the topic of SA ancestry research. There is a comment form if you have queries or feedback.
Best Wishes,
Mole
An excellent resource, full of information. I go onto it often and often find an hour or more has passed with me reading something that has caught my eye. A must do for those doing South African research..... ;) ;) :D
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Death Notices from about 1834 through to 1950 and a few beyond are now accessible (whit a bit of sleuthing) on familysearch.org see topics:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=742221.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=742327.0
Regards
Gillian
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Thank you for that reminder. And don't forget to try the useful Natal Civil Marriages at
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/2063749 (https://familysearch.org/search/collection/2063749)
bet wishes
Mole
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Natal marriages have been largely indexed on Family Search so try there first......
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Yes - that is the link I gave in my message. Family Search, Natal Civil Marriages.
:)
Mole
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Ok didn't try the link first :-[ ;D
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i all would any one would be able to help me, i am tracing my family tree.
my grandmother told me a story when i was young that her father (my great grandfather)went on a boat she waved him goodbye never to see him again.,hope i have the right family.
On the UK census in 1901 he is listed as Henry Looper b 1857-1860 Cape Town(he was a General Labourer.) but on his marriage records he is down as George Henry Looper m 1895 to a Sarah Ann Barnett.
His Father is down as George Henry Looper on marriage record.
I have found a Death record for a George Henry Looper 25Th April 1905 Stepney
If anyone could look up this person for me in the cape town records or any information about him who was his parents ? etc i would be very grateful
thank you.sue
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<On the UK census in 1901 he is listed as Henry Looper b 1857-1860 Cape Town(he was a General Labourer.) but on his marriage records he is down as George Henry Looper m 1895 to a Sarah Ann Barnett.
His Father is down as George Henry Looper on marriage record.
I have found a Death record for a George Henry Looper 25Th April 1905 Stepney
If anyone could look up this person for me in the cape town records or any information about him who was his parents ? etc i would be very grateful thank you.sue>
I find nothing on NAAIRS for a George or Henry Looper, nor to a spouse maiden name Barnett. If he did not die in South Africa there would be no Deceased estate file for him here unless he owned property in SA. I presume he married overseas not in SA. The trouble is that people could be in SA for a few years but if no public record was generated their sojourn could remain invisible. Have you tried to find a record of his leaving UK by ship? These are on findmypast (ancestorsonboard) from 1890, worth having a look. Not possible from the SA end as far as passenger arrivals are concerned. Best Wishes, Mole
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Hi mole and thank you so much for looking and trying to help,i am at a lost on this one as why he was born in cape town but lived and married in London and then died here in uk and my grandmother never saw him again,will look at ships going from UK.sue
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Abraham Frankel.
Pauline Maltz
Marriage around 1940 .
Abraham Frankel lived in South West Africa Windhoek.
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May be your man? Reference on NAAIRS.
DEPOT KAB
SOURCE CO
TYPE LEER
VOLUME_NO 8610
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 22
PART 1
DESCRIPTION APPLICATION FOR LETTERS OF NATURALIZATION. ABRAHAM FRANKEL.
STARTING 1904
ENDING 1905
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Hi All,
I'm trying to search for a friend's father born Pongola, KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa in 1924
His name was Johannes Marthinus Palmer. I have his marriage certificate and death but we are unable to find his birth. We specifically would like to push the research back at least another generation.
Thanks,
Lois
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Presumably you know his Identity Number, you could apply for a vault copy of his birth certificate which would have his parents listed. This may take some time and would depend on the department finding it.
What religion was he - I see that their children were baptised in the NGK church but they were married by a magistrate. Once you know what religion he was you could look for the church records on familysearch - you will probably need to look in the catalogue for a town in the Pongolo district
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Presumably you know his Identity Number, you could apply for a vault copy of his birth certificate which would have his parents listed. This may take some time and would depend on the department finding it.
What religion was he - I see that their children were baptised in the NGK church but they were married by a magistrate. Once you know what religion he was you could look for the church records on familysearch - you will probably need to look in the catalogue for a town in the Pongolo district
Hi Gillian,
Thanks for your reply, yes the identity number is on his Death Notice. Not sure of his religion, where did you see the baptism of his children, on Family Search? I think my friend is going to try and get his birth certificate next year when visiting South Africa and I have given her the form to fill in. We know it can take some time. We were hoping we might find a baptism for him before then though. :)
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Put the name into familysearch there is a marriage record and two baptism records indexed.
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Put the name into familysearch there is a marriage record and two baptism records indexed.
I had the marriage certificate but thanks for the baptisms. There are 7 children all together! Think we may have to wait patiently till next year for her father's birth certificate as it doesn't come up in any research I have done so far. :(
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Looks Like Louisa married at 17 in 1949 before she married Johannes!
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do none of the siblings know their grand parents names? What was the oldest son's names, if they followed traditional naming patterns he should have been named for his paternal grandpa
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Hi all, I would be extremely grateful if anyone could have a look on family search for these estate papers, I have tried but am no expert and may just be missing them.
This is the info relating to them from the SA archives
Description - Arthur Stannard, estate papers
starting - 19570000
ending - 19570000
depot - KAB
source - MOG
type - LEER
system - 01
reference - 439/47
part - 1
and
description - Arthur Montague Stannard, born in port Elizabeth, unmarried, deceased estate.
starting - 19700000
ending - 19710000
depot - NAB
source - MSCE
type - LEER
system - 01
reference - 112/1971
part - 1.
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Unfortunately neither of those are available on-line. YOu would need to contact a researcher or the relevant archive to get a copy. EGGSA will photograph for you in the Natal archive but are unable to do so in the Cape Archive
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Unfortunately neither of those are available on-line. YOu would need to contact a researcher or the relevant archive to get a copy. EGGSA will photograph for you in the Natal archive but are unable to do so in the Cape Archive
Hi, thankyou for double checking for me, I really appreciate it, I will follow your advice and hopefully get hold of the documents, thanks again.