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Title: Looking for information on Segraves of Togher, Dunany, Louth
Post by: Bernadette105 on Sunday 30 November 14 21:16 GMT (UK)
trying to make a family connection to the Segraves from Dunany ... I have some family history that leads me here but don't have any solid documentation.  I believe the connection is to Peter Segrave ..but the direct connection to me is a James Segrave .

Peter Segrave was born in early 1800's ..I believe he is the father of Fr. John Segrave  b.1839 and Msg Patrick Segrave b. 1849

I think James Segrave b early 1800's could be a brother of Peter Segrave. My connection is through written family history that is not complete.

Thank you!

Title: Re: Looking for information on Segraves of Togher, Dunany, Louth
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 30 November 14 21:33 GMT (UK)
You are more likely to get a response if you fill in some dates.
Title: Re: Looking for information on Segraves of Togher, Dunany, Louth
Post by: Bernadette105 on Sunday 30 November 14 21:44 GMT (UK)
Thanks... I will modify post!
Title: Re: Looking for information on Segraves of Togher, Dunany, Louth
Post by: dathai on Monday 01 December 14 10:58 GMT (UK)
James Segrave
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014900/005014900_00411.pdf

Reference to will of Patrick Segrave 1934
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/wills-testamentary-records/

Peter Segrave
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014899/005014899_00384.pdf

Bridget Segrave
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014908/005014908_00424.pdf
Title: Re: Looking for information on Segraves of Togher, Dunany, Louth
Post by: dathai on Monday 01 December 14 11:17 GMT (UK)
Stephen Segrave
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Louth/Drumcar/Dunany/1565680/

1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Louth/Drumcar/Dunany/649449/
Title: Re: Looking for information on Segraves of Togher, Dunany, Louth
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 01 December 14 11:21 GMT (UK)
I think you are looking for older records in order to confirm or eliminate a possible connection between the 2 men? Do you know what religion they were? Have you checked here for Segraves (some records even back in 1700s).
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/
Title: Re: Looking for information on Segraves of Togher, Dunany, Louth
Post by: dathai on Monday 01 December 14 11:44 GMT (UK)
Death of John Segrave and mention of a sister
http://www.independent.ie/regionals/droghedaindependent/lifestyle/death-of-rev-john-seagrave-27169369.html
Title: Re: Looking for information on Segraves of Togher, Dunany, Louth
Post by: dathai on Monday 01 December 14 17:36 GMT (UK)
See here Mary Segrave 1920
http://applications.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar/WillsSearch.aspx
Title: Re: Looking for information on Segraves of Togher, Dunany, Louth
Post by: Bernadette105 on Monday 01 December 14 23:08 GMT (UK)
Thank you both so much... Aghadowey...the priests were Catholic priest..and I have been trying to look through any histories of the churches in the area to see other Segrave connections...
And dathai... I had seen some of the Wills but not all..  I was looking at the will of James .. Do you understand the relationship between Fr. John and minor child Peter?  I think James could have been a brother to the priests?? 8)

Bernadette
Title: Re: Looking for information on Segraves of Togher, Dunany, Louth
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 01 December 14 23:19 GMT (UK)
The reason I asked about religion was that some seem to have been Catholic and others Church of Ireland in the records I saw (link posted earlier).
Title: Re: Looking for information on Segraves of Togher, Dunany, Louth
Post by: Bernadette105 on Tuesday 02 December 14 00:22 GMT (UK)
Aghadowey...our family is Catholic...but I have been looking both because of the constant back and forth with the Church of England/Ireland .  I have learned to always stay open to the records that are there and not dismiss anything...

Bernadette
Title: Re: Looking for information on Segraves of Togher, Dunany, Louth
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 02 December 14 10:10 GMT (UK)
Hi Bernadette
                    Sorry dont really know what the relationship is,but you have Fr Patrick and Stephen Segrave on Bridgets Will and Fr John caring for the Minor  Peter Segrave aka as Percy Segrave.
Two possible births for him though i would be inclined to go for the first one.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FB4H-ZWY

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBCH-H32

in 1901 listed as Percy with Uncle Stephen
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Louth/Drumcar/Dunany/1565680/

marriage
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FYZ5-5PL
wife
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FYZR-ZYF

1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Meath/Rathfeigh/Gilliamstown/714679/
Reta or Rita in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Pembroke_East___Donnybrook/Merrion_Road/1285470/
Title: Re: Looking for information on Segraves of Togher, Dunany, Louth
Post by: Bernadette105 on Wednesday 03 December 14 23:23 GMT (UK)
Dathai....I was able to find the actual wills if Bridget Segrave the mother and Fr. John Segrave one of the sons.. It is very exciting because the Stephen you found in the census is named as a son/ brother confirming the family members!   I know we are related my best educated guess is their father Peter Segrave was my gg grandfathers uncle... And Patrick , John, Stephen Frances and others unnamed were his 1st cousins.

It was a good day! Still looking for my ggg grandfather James who I believe is Peters brother
Title: Re: Looking for information on Segraves of Togher, Dunany, Louth
Post by: rathmore on Saturday 06 December 14 12:20 GMT (UK)
there is a John Segrave 1879-1910 on this site suffered a stroked.

http://www.termonfeckinhistory.ie/catholic_clergy_18.html
Title: Re: Looking for information on Segraves of Togher, Dunany, Louth
Post by: rathmore on Saturday 06 December 14 12:21 GMT (UK)
Born in 1839 at Dunany from the address I have give you.
Title: Re: Looking for information on Segraves of Togher, Dunany, Louth
Post by: joanearls on Saturday 03 October 15 10:25 BST (UK)
Hi
I have a James Segrave married to a Catherine Stafford from co louth. they had the following known children:
Michael    1865 Drogheda  Married Mary Unknown and had 8 known children.
James      1871 Co Louth
Bridget    1880 Drogheda, Co louth

I am not sure if this  James and family are connected to yours?
Joanearls
Title: Re: Looking for information on Segraves of Togher, Dunany, Louth
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 03 October 15 15:36 BST (UK)
Right Rev. Monsignor Patrick Segrave

Parish Priest of St. Peter's Drogheda. Archdeacon and Vicar General of Armagh. Born at Togher 11th Feb 1849. He was ordained at Dundalk 2nd March 1873. He was CC Ardee 1873-88. ADM Dundalk 1888-91. PP Kilcurry 1893-1900 and PP Drogheda 1900-1934 and his remains are laid here awaiting the resurrection.

Age: 85

Date of Death: 13/02/1934
Title: Re: Looking for information on Segraves of Togher, Dunany, Louth
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 03 October 15 15:37 BST (UK)
http://www.discovereverafter.com/plot/72774
Title: Re: Looking for information on Segraves of Togher, Dunany, Louth
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 03 October 15 15:41 BST (UK)
http://www.discovereverafter.com/plot/71181

James Segrave
Brother of Matthew
Date of Death: 24/01/1971

Lena Segrave
Wife of Matthew
Date of Death: 18/01/1978


Matthew Segrave
Scarlet St
Date of Death: 13/05/1980
Title: Re: Looking for information on Segraves of Togher, Dunany, Louth
Post by: Helen segrave on Thursday 15 June 17 01:06 BST (UK)
Peter Segrave and James were brothers
James was my great grandfather.  He also had another son Patrick my grandfather who married Catherine Heeney and had four sons Matthew ,James ,Patrick my father and Kevin.  They lived in 23 Scarlet st. Drogheda.  James had another son Matthew killed in France in the First world war.
Title: Re: Looking for information on Segraves of Togher, Dunany, Louth
Post by: joanearls on Thursday 15 June 17 11:30 BST (UK)
Dear Helen

Thank you so much for your reply. It has helped me with my Segrave information.

Sincerely
Joan