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Title: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: Lorayne on Friday 05 December 14 11:04 GMT (UK)
WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT was born in 1858 at South Australia. He married Wilhelmine Bertha Marie Heinemann in 1881. Wilhelmine died in 1926, however I cannot find a death for WILIAM RICHARD or WILLIAM KENNETT.
If anyone can help, I would appreciate it.

Regards
Lorayne
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: cando on Friday 05 December 14 11:24 GMT (UK)
The age is not a match.  Is this a son.

KENNETT William Richard  81 years Status Married  No relative recorded
29 May 1958
Residence Wayville Death Place Adelaide  Ade H 875/3025

Symbol H indicates he died in hospital or place of care.  May have been the Royal Adelaide Hospital.

His status is married so he married after Wilhelmine Bertha Marie's death in 1926.

Death of his 2nd wife
KENNETT Lillian May  71 years  Status Widow  Relative William KENNETT [Deceased husband]
7 Dec 1964
Residence Croydon  Death Place Woodville  Hin H 983/8392

May have died in the Queen Elizabeth Hospital or a nursing home in the area.

Cando

Edit....this Wm Richard KENNETT is the son of Daniel Richard KENNETT. :(
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: cando on Friday 05 December 14 11:35 GMT (UK)
William Richard KENNETT is buried at Centennial Park Cemetery.  The lease has expired.
http://www.centennialpark.org/deceased-search.html

He is interred with two others.

Cando
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: cando on Friday 05 December 14 12:08 GMT (UK)
No mention of Wm in her death notice and she is buried at Payneham.

The Register  29 Jul 1926
KENNETT.— On the 28th July, at her residence, No. 4 Rugby street, College Park, Wilhelmine B. M., dearly loved mother of Mesdames J. M. Craig, G. Y. McCord, Mr. Walter R., and Miss B. Kennett

Buried at Payneham Cemetery
KENNETT Otto Richard 1922, age 26.  Wilhelmine B M 1926 age 72.

Cando
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: mollipops1 on Friday 05 December 14 12:46 GMT (UK)
So he is not this one in SA?

Year 1908
Reg 337/479
KENNETT William Richard
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Encounter Bay

Nope, must be his father?

The Register, Thursday 24 December 1908
DEATHS.     
KENNETT. —On the 19th December, at Goolwa, William Richard Kennett, in his 81st year.

From http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article57000541
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: cando on Friday 05 December 14 12:53 GMT (UK)
That is his father.

Cando
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: Lorayne on Saturday 06 December 14 07:08 GMT (UK)
Dear Cando
Thanks very much for your reply.
The William Richard Kennett who died in 1958 is not the one I'm looking for.
My William Richard Kennett was born in 1858. That is his father who died in 1908. I have the info for his wife and son.
I cannot find a death for him in Australia. It may be in the spelling, or he did not die in this country.
It is very strange.

Regards
Lorayne
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: giblet on Saturday 20 December 14 04:06 GMT (UK)
Buried at Payneham Cemetery
KENNETT Otto Richard 1922, age 26.  Wilhelmine B M 1926 age 72.

No mention of his father in Otto's death notice neither.

The Register (Adelaide, SA : 1901 - 1929) (about)   
Thursday 15 June 1922
KENNETT.—On the 14th June, at Blackwood,  Otto Richard, the dearly beloved son of Mrs. W. R. Kennett, aged 26 years.
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: judb on Saturday 20 December 14 04:54 GMT (UK)
Trying to narrow the possible dates - this family notice implies that he was still with his wife in 1902 when Minna's sister died 'at the home of her brother-in-law (W R KENNETT), Westminster St, East Adelaide".  She was also interred at Payneham Cemetery.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/4887533

Judith

Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: giblet on Saturday 20 December 14 05:11 GMT (UK)
Not mentioned in 1918 in his son's marriage notice.

At St. James' Church on August 31,the Rev. P. A. Byrnes officiated at the marriage of Miss Maude Bailey, only daughter of Mr. W. F. Bailey, of Waverley, with Mr. Walter Kennett, eldest son of Mrs. W. R. Kennett, of Henley Beach, South Australia.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/123127310?
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: judb on Saturday 20 December 14 05:21 GMT (UK)
1904 - daughter Olive, married at the residence of the bride's father, St Peters.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/56491228

Judith

Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: judb on Saturday 20 December 14 05:30 GMT (UK)
1901 - another snippet which doesn't help with his death at all but I thought it was interesting - an account of a trip to UK by "Mr F H Harman of Messrs Good, Toms & Co and Mr W R Kennett of St Peters"

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/54553517

Judith
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: giblet on Saturday 20 December 14 05:38 GMT (UK)
Managing to narrow it down a bit Judith. 1904 to 1918.
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: giblet on Saturday 20 December 14 05:58 GMT (UK)
These are the only 2 i can find in SA in that time period.

1907   324/180   KENNETT   William      Clare
1908   337/479   KENNETT   William Richard      Encounter Bay

We know the 1908 one is his father. I'll see if i can find something on the 1907 fella.

Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: cando on Saturday 20 December 14 06:00 GMT (UK)
According to his wife's death registration he was living in 1926

KENNETT Wilhelmine Bertha Maria  72 years  Status Married  Relative William Richard KENNETT [Husband]
28 Jul 1926
Residence St Peters  Death Place St Peters  Nor  489/85

Cando

Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: judb on Saturday 20 December 14 06:15 GMT (UK)
The advertisements for his business The People's Store, drapers seem to cease in 1904 and the business is listed as an "Assigned Estate" in 1906.  My understanding is that that means the business had been assigned into administration - but I could be wrong!!

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5105409

So perhaps he just dropped out of sight after this.  :-\

Judith
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: judb on Saturday 20 December 14 06:18 GMT (UK)
Even lost his house in 1907  :(

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/56965094

Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: giblet on Saturday 20 December 14 09:04 GMT (UK)
According to his wife's death registration he was living in 1926

KENNETT Wilhelmine Bertha Maria  72 years  Status Married  Relative William Richard KENNETT [Husband]
28 Jul 1926
Residence St Peters  Death Place St Peters  Nor  489/85

Cando

Would be interesting to see if Wilhelmine had a will and or who the informant was on her death cert.
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: giblet on Saturday 20 December 14 09:18 GMT (UK)
News (Adelaide, SA : 1923 - 1954)
Saturday 28 August 1926
OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY
The Mercantile Trade Protection Association reports that probate has been granted in respect to the following wills, the amount stated being gross value of the estate: -
Probates
etc etc
Kennett,  Wilhelmina Bertha Marie, St. Peters. £1.500

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/129746314?
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: Lorayne on Sunday 21 December 14 05:16 GMT (UK)
Thank you all very much for your replies. I am at a loss with this one. I think I will get Wilhelmina's death cert. from South Australia to see what it says. There is nowhere else to go with this.

Regards
Lorayne
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: cando on Sunday 21 December 14 05:29 GMT (UK)
Oh I would think twice if you don't wish to waste your money.  Information on SA death certs is scant. 
1908-1947
    Date and Place of Death
    Name
    Sex
    Age
    Occupation
    Usual Residence
    Birthplace
    Length of Residence in Commonwealth
    Age at Marriage
    Number of Issue Living and Deceased
    Cause of Death
    Place of Death
    Informant

If you feel you need it, I suggest you purchase a transcription about half the price.  Google Graham Jaunay, he provides this service.

Cando
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: Lorayne on Tuesday 23 December 14 11:32 GMT (UK)
Dear Cando
Thanks for the tip
regards
Lorayne
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: Lorayne on Tuesday 15 September 15 12:51 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone for your input.
I have found a William Richard Kennett in the New South Wales Police Gazette in 1907. He is at Creasey's Hotel in Parramatta. He then aquires a publican licence at Toowoomba, Queensland, in 1908, then 2 more pubs at Ipswich, Queensland, until 1913. In 1914 there is a W.R. Kennett storekeeper at Sandgate, Queensland, selling up and moving to England. It is only an unproven theory, but explains why there is no death for him anywhere in Australia, given also that I can only find 3 William Richard Kennetts in the entire country. Him, his father, and a nephew in S. A.
The dates all fit and my gut feeling is this is him, but cannot prove it.

Thanks again
Regards
Lorayne
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: cupoflife on Friday 18 September 15 03:28 BST (UK)
Is this death a possibility? http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Deaths Dec 1947 
Kennett, William R. age 88 Birmingham Vol 9c Page 354
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: Lorayne on Friday 18 September 15 06:36 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for your reply also.

It is possible, given that I don't know for sure what happened to him. However even if I did get the death cert from England, the most useful things would be occupation and witness to the death, as English certs. do not give much info. I still could not prove where he came from.

Regards
Lorayne
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: cupoflife on Friday 18 September 15 16:43 BST (UK)
Is this death a possibility? http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Deaths Dec 1947 
Kennett, William R. age 88 Birmingham Vol 9c Page 354

Maybe look for a death notice?
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: Essie on Saturday 19 September 15 04:12 BST (UK)
Deaths Dec Q 1947 
Kennett, William R. age 88 Birmingham Vol 9c Page 354


This man born in the UK.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3024972&id=I2085

Essie
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: Lorayne on Saturday 19 September 15 09:38 BST (UK)
Dear Essie
Well we can eliminate him.

Thank you
Lorayne
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: John Herniman on Wednesday 26 April 17 12:10 BST (UK)
Hi Lorayne
After a few years break I am now back on the hunt!
My grandfather was Walter Raymond Kennett 1887 Kandina SA until 1954 Ryde NSW.
His father was William Richard Kennett 1858 Middleton SA until 26 July 1926 St Peters SA who married Wilhelmine Bertha etc 1854 until 28 July 1926 (note they died 2 days apart!)
Richard's father had the same first given names born 1828-1908 and married to Maria Ann Wills 1828-1898.  I can flesh out more details etc if you want.
Walter Raymond (also WR just to make life difficult!) married Maude Lillian Leighton-Bailey 1895-1963 in 1918 in Sydney and had my Mum. Only child. Maude and Walter were spectacularly divorced in 1929 I think and both remarried. Walter had 2 children from his second marriage.
There is a gap in time with Walter between 1907 in SA and 1918 in NSW. His parents moving etc in your details above sounds about right. So I would love to find more and if Walter had an even earlier marriage! I think he was secretive by todays standards and his parents movements may have contributed.   
Cheers John
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: Lorayne Mahoney on Tuesday 06 February 18 00:33 GMT (UK)
Dear John
Did I ever reply to you? If not I do apologise. I have had quite a few things going on in the last couple of years, also I changed my email address.
I have not been able to find a death for William Richard Kennett. Did you mean St. Peters in New South Wales and have you got a death certificate?

Regards
Lorayne
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: cando on Tuesday 06 February 18 01:03 GMT (UK)
Lorayne there is no death registration in SA for WRK on 26 Jul 1926.  His wife's death registration had her status as M = Married and the relative as WRK [H] = Husband.  If he pre-deceased her in SA he would have been noted as [DH] and her marital status W.

i can search my resource by dates only and there was only one George William * who died in SA on 26 Jul 1926 and he had the surname STOCKHAM aged 74 years and he died at Fullarton. Status was M but no relative noted.

Nothing for a George William *  who died on 26 Jul 1926 in NSW either.

I think it has been mentioned previously that no mention of WRK in his wife's death or funeral notices. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article54858905

Not much help to you today.

Cheers
Cando

Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: Lorayne Mahoney on Wednesday 07 February 18 10:20 GMT (UK)
Dear Cando
Thanks for your reply. Yes, as I have previously posted I can't find a death anywhere in Australia for that William Richard Kennett, but am interested in what John Herniman says as he is a great grandson. He may have info I don't have, you never know!

Regards
Lorayne
Title: Re: WILLIAM RICHARD KENNETT SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Post by: cando on Friday 09 February 18 03:15 GMT (UK)
Let's hope so.  He has been logged in since your post on Feb 6.

Cando