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Title: samuel harris
Post by: mrs bongo on Sunday 08 February 15 13:36 GMT (UK)
hi all
could someone please help me regarding Samuel harris born abt 1858 in Birmingham his father was called George harris and his mother was called mary that is all I know
kind regard













Title: Re: samuel harris
Post by: ..claire.. on Sunday 08 February 15 13:51 GMT (UK)
Hi

To start with

Samuel Harris  bapt. 20 July 1858 Holy Trinity, Bordesley. Parents: George and Mary
Abode: Sparkbrook
Fathers Occ: labourer

claire
Title: Re: samuel harris
Post by: ..claire.. on Sunday 08 February 15 13:58 GMT (UK)
Possible marriage for his parents

Birmingham St George, 8 April 1856 after Banns

George Harris  22 bachelor   porter   of Snow Hill . Father: Samuel Harris~ policeman
Mary Barker 21 spinster of Snow Hill. Father: George Barker ~ labourer
Both signed register
Witnesses: William Jobby/ Tobby  and the mark of Elizabeth Taylor.

claire
Title: Re: samuel harris
Post by: mrs bongo on Sunday 08 February 15 14:17 GMT (UK)
hi Claire
thank you very much for your help 
king regards
Title: Re: samuel harris
Post by: mrs bongo on Saturday 21 March 15 10:17 GMT (UK)
hi all
I'm  looking for info for George Harris born 1834   and Mary barker who married in 1856 in Birmingham George was about 21 .  his father was called Samuel Harris  can you help
kind regards
Title: Re: samuel harris
Post by: ..claire.. on Saturday 21 March 15 11:55 GMT (UK)
Hi

This is his family parents in 1861, prior to this census his father was a tailor

Wooten Wawen:

Samuel Harris hd mar. 51  inspector of police bn. Warw. Henley in Arden
Emma             wf    "    49                                  "   Worcester ? ?
Henry             son        13 scholar                     "   Warw. Henley
Emma            dau        10      "                                   "          "
Ann                  "           8       "                                   "          "
Mary                "           5       "                                    "          "

Class: RG 9,  Piece: 2232,  Folio: 90,  Page: 7.

claire
Title: Re: samuel harris
Post by: ..claire.. on Saturday 21 March 15 12:18 GMT (UK)
This is the family in 1841

Wooten Wawen

? ? Harris 65 cordwainer
Samuel    32 tailor
Emma      29
Adam       9
GEORGE  7
Samuel    6
Daniel      3
William     1
Ann Jolliff 71                         All born in County

Class: HO107, Piece: 1124,  Book: 21, Folio: 5,  Page: 3,  Line: 23.

claire

Title: Re: samuel harris
Post by: ..claire.. on Saturday 21 March 15 12:24 GMT (UK)
and 1851

Warwickshire Henley

Samuel Harris hd   41 mar. Tailor  bn Warw Henley
Emma             wf    39   "                 "   Worcester
Samuel          son  16  errand boy   " Warw. Snitterfield
Daniel               "   13  scholar               "            "
William              "   11  errand boy         "      Henley
Thomas H         "   5   scholar                           "
Henry                    2                                          "
Emma            dau 5 months                             "

Class: HO107, Piece: 2074,  Folio: 738,  Page: 21.

claire
Title: Re: samuel harris
Post by: ..claire.. on Saturday 21 March 15 12:38 GMT (UK)
About George,

This is his baptism

George bp. 14 August 1833 Snitterfield, son of Samuel and Emma, father a tailor

I think this is him in 1861, transcribed as GEOE Harris, but no Samuel ? ? This could be the wrong family, but to rule them out

Birmingham: Bromsgrove St. 34 Court.

Geoe Harris hd mar 27 Birm. Police 34   bn Snitterfield Warw.
Mary            wf    "   24 housewife            " Staffordshire Shenton
Thomas William son 4 Scholar bn Walsall
Ann Maria          dau 1               "  Solihull
Ann Edon visitor age 29 dressmaker bn Birmingham

Class: RG 9,  Piece: 2145,  Folio: 55,  Page: 46.

claire





Title: Re: samuel harris
Post by: ..claire.. on Saturday 21 March 15 12:45 GMT (UK)
and the family in 1871

Birmingham: 4 Pickford Street

George Harris hd mar 35 watchman bn Henley in Arden
Mary               wf         33 machinist   "  Staffs Shenston
William T       son        13 iron brazier " Walsall
Ann M           dau         9 scholar        " Solihull
Mary E             "          7      "              " Birmingham
Harry E         son         4                             "

Class: RG10,  Piece: 3110,  Folio: 103,  Page: 13.

I'm pretty confident that these records all relate to the same family, however I can't find any evidence of a SAMUEL with them. If Samuel is your ancestor then I think this family is wrong.

claire

claire
Title: Re: samuel harris
Post by: mrs bongo on Saturday 21 March 15 16:11 GMT (UK)
hi Claire
thank you for the info Samuel is my granddad father and George is Samuel father  I hope that makes cense
kind regads
Title: Re: samuel harris
Post by: MichaelGT on Monday 08 June 15 15:05 BST (UK)
Ref George harris born in Snitterfield C 1831

If your George and Samuel harris are related to the Harris Family from Henley in Arden as suggested, the family tree is as follows

1st Generation
Simon Harris C1745 married Mary Arnold 2 Feb 1760  at Wooton Wawen (Parish register)

2nd Generation  (Children of Simon and Mary)
Sarah Harris Baptised 11th July 1774 (Parish register)  Married Mr Hughes
Adam Harris  Baptised 7th Feb 1777 , (Parish register) Married Ann Horton 27th July 1797, living with sister in the 1951 census , Died June 1858 Stratford on avon Vol 6d Page 309

3rd Generation ( Children of Adam and Ann)
Maria Harris Christened 9th Jan 1803 Wooton Wawen
Betsy Harris Christened 29th June 1804 Wooton Wawen
Daniel Harris Christened 3rdAug 1806 Wooton Wawen
Samuel Harris  Christened 29th May 1809 Henley in Arden .  Married Emma Weston,  Profession 1851 census Taylor , 1861 Census Inspector of the Police

4th Generation ( Children of Samuel and Emma)
Adam Harris C1832  (1941 Census) Born Snitterfield . 1871 Census -Chelsea Pensioners , Wife Ellon
                                Children Emma and Heney born in India
George Harris C1835 (1941 Census & 1951 Census) Born Snitterfield  YOUR GEORGE ? 1881 Census
                                Beer house keeper , Birmingham married to Mary
Samuel Harris C1835 (1941 Census & 1951 Census) Born Snitterfield  (My Line)
Daniel Harris C1838 (1941 Census & 1951 Census) Born Snitterfield. 1881 Census- married  Wife                              .                              Mary Ann , children  Kate and William . Living Sommerford Staffs         
William Harris C1840 (1941 Census & 1951 Census)
Thomas William Harris C1846 (1951 Census)
Henry Harris C1849 (1951 Census) , 1871 Census- Married Marianne  , profession police constable
Emma Harris C1851 (1951 Census & 1961 Census)
Ann Harris 1853   (1961 Census)
Mary Harris  C1856 (1961 Census)

Starting with Adam Harris C1777, the family have been active members of Henley Court Leet holding roles such as Town Crier , Ale Tasters and Brook Lookers.

Hope this helps
Title: Re: samuel harris
Post by: mrs bongo on Friday 12 May 17 16:51 BST (UK)
thank you for your help