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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: marp on Monday 13 April 15 02:04 BST (UK)
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Does anyone have access to Ashover marriage records? I have a George Hodgkinson married to Elizabeth Barker in Ashover on Feb 11 1663. Is this correct? The Derbyshire Marriage Index implies that George was not from the parish of Ashover (if so where).
The Hodgkinsons are fairly confusing as there is also George Hodgkinson of Overton Hall who married Anne (?). However, I believe that this George Hodgkinson who married Elizabeth was the one who was on Hatch Leys farm which he sold to George Hodgkinson of Overton in 1670.
Any help in sorting out this family would be appreciated.
marp
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Hi Marp
The Derbyshire Marriage Index states George was from Wormhill parish of Tidsall (Tideswell)
Carol
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Thanks for the reply Carol. I think I may have located Elizabeth Barker of Tideswell who married George Hodgkinson in Ashover on Feb 11, 1663. Elizabeth was the daughter of Peter Barker and christened on 20 October 1644 at Tideswell.
George and Elizabeth lived at Hatch Leys farm in Ashover.
However, this still leaves me wondering about the origins of George Hopkinson - I simply cannot find a birth date, place of birth or parents - nothing. I have had a good look at the Tideswell records will no success.
Any help would be appreciated.
marp
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There are several baptisms to George & Elizabeth Hodgkinson before their marriage date, so may have been two couples around at the same time or had he been married before. It can't be the Elizabeth born 1644 as this would make her only 10 years old when she had her first child
Rebecca 20.2. 1654
Edward 9.11. 1654
Joseph 18.9.1659
Anne 13.3.1662
George 8.10.1664
Edmond 16.7. 1667
William 15.4. 1673
All baptised to George & Elizabeth abode Ashover. Only the baptism for William gives abode Hatchlees
Carol
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Hello Marp
George Hodgkinson of Hatch Leys farm is my 8x great -grandfather through his son Joseph (bpd 1659, Ashover). I have been informed in the past, but I forget by whom, that some of the early records for that part of Derbyshire were lost/ destroyed and have not pursued looking earlier than 1623 (George's birth). I have other info. on George but have pressing business right now so will add later.
Regards
MalcolmH
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Hi,
Derbyshire Record Office has the following records for Ashover:-
reference D253 deposited registers Bap 1621-1623, 1653-1925 Mar 1653-1998 Burials 1653-1668, 1671-1990 Banns 1653-1661, 1823-1904, 1952-1972
Litchfield Record Office has Bishops Transcripts:-
Bap 1667-1853 Mar 1667-1845 Burials 1667-1853
Spendlove
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Hi Marp
Apologies for the delay. Bulmer's History of Derbyshire of 1895 (on Ashover) mentions that "The earliest registers were burned by Cromwell's soldiers in 1646" You can find an extract at www.ashover.org/bulmer1.htm. The paragraph is a little more than half way down the page. The rest of the para. has an interesting reference to a George Hodgkinson - though whether it is "our" George or not is a matter for conjecture.
Regards
Malcolm H
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Hi Marp.
When George H marries he is of Wormhill parish of Tidsall (Tideswell) this is not an
indication as to where he was born just that he was living in that parish at the date of his marriage.
Have you discounted he following:-
George Hodgkinson christened 27th July 1641 Great Longstone son of Anthony Hodgkinson.
On familysearch there is an image of the register, it is on the right hand page, 7 up from the bottom.
It is about 3 miles from villages of Great Longstone to Tideswell.
Spendlove
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Thanks for the information on George Hodgkinson. I have done a little work on his children and have a transcript of his son Edmund's ( 1667- 1748) will which makes interesting reading.
However, I am still having trouble going back a generation. Yes, I do understand that the parish in which someone is living is not necessarily where they are born.
Any more information on the Hodgkinsons of Hatchleys farm would be much appreciated.
Thanks, marp
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Hi Marp and MalcomH, George Hodgkinson of Ashover is my 8 x Great grandfather. I am descended through his son Edmond (Edmund) 1667-1748 and Anne Nightingale 1676-1767. Although I am in Aust. I have travelled to Ashover 4 times, and my next visit is this Sept. I was quite interested to read that George H may have actually come from Tideswell ( where by chance we have already booked into a B & B !!) I am interested in the fact that the Hodgkinsons may be connected to Sir Joseph Banks as his family name was originally Hodgkinsons, until changed because of an inheritance. Bearing in mind that Banks did have a home at Ashover (Overton Hall) I would love to learn more about the Hodgkinsons of Ashover. Thank you
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Hi, I am also a descendent of George Hodgkinson of Hatch Leys farm. There were a lot of George Hodgkinsons around at the time - so very confusing! From my research this George (1623-1688) is son of Edward Hodgkinson (abt. 1600-1662) also of Hatch Leys, whose cousin George Hodgkinson of Dicklant mentions them both in a will. George of Hatch Leys was married to an Elizabeth ( not Barker), but unclear what her surname is. George Hodgkinson of 'Ashover' may be yet another of the same name who did marry an Eliz. Barker in 1663 and appears to have died in 1684. From what I can gather Edward's father was George Hodgkinson b. 1575 but unclear if he too was born at Hatch Leys, he may have been related to the Richard Hodgkinson b. 1523 who bought Overton Hall but I suspect not his son. Would love any further info. R C.
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Thanks for your information. Yes it is very confusing when there are so many "Georges" with the same surname. All I know, from the records I have from Ashover Parish, I am descended from Edmund (Edmond ?) Hodgkinson 1667-1748 and Anne Nightingale 1676-1767. Their daughter Elizabeth married a James Milnes, and my 3 x Great Grandmother was descended from them. There are various spellings of the surname Milnes which also makes things a bit difficult. Sometimes they are Milns, and various other spellings.